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" If I were the Devil "...
By: Justaname Date: August 7, 2017, 2:19 pm
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I doubt he knew just how prophetic this was , over 50 years
ago!!
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Re: " If I were the Devil "...
By: Kerry Date: August 7, 2017, 7:31 pm
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^ We're not unique in having the Dark Side try to subvert us;
but things are not looking good at the moment. Still sometimes
people have to learn from their mistakes. All is not lost then.
We see today lots of anger and dissatisfaction. Should this
alarm us? Not too much since it tells us that people aren't
happy with their lives. They know something's wrong with the
way our society is going. There is hope.
I found the part about undermining the Bible interesting since I
just read an article which had a list of sources that ignorantly
reported on the Bible. Scientists recently said they identified
genes connected with the Canaanites. That brought a slew of
assertions that this proved the Bible wrong since they said the
Bible said the Canaanites had been wiped out.
HTML https://evolutionnews.org/2017/07/for-culturally-illiterate-science-reporters-ancient-canaanite-dna-yields-occasion-to-slap-the-bible-around/
The science story itself is fascinating and to all appearances
solid. Human remains dating to some 3,700 year ago from ancient
Canaanites yielded DNA revealing a startling overlap with
modern-day Lebanese. The latter thus appear to harbor
descendants of the long-ago population (“Continuity and
Admixture in the Last Five Millennia of Levantine History from
Ancient Canaanite and Present-Day Lebanese Genome Sequences,”
American Journal of Human Genetics).
Wow, that is interesting. How will they spin it? The headlines
tell the tale:
“Study disproves the Bible’s suggestion that the ancient
Canaanites were wiped out” (The Telegraph)
“Bible says Canaanites were wiped out by Israelites but
scientists just found their descendants living in Lebanon” (The
Independent)
“Bronze Age DNA disproves the Bible’s claim that the Canaanites
were wiped out: Study says their genes live on in modern-day
Lebanese people” (Daily Mail)
“Scientists Find Evidence That Ancient Canaanites Survive Today:
Was The Bible Wrong?” (Tech Times)
“New DNA study casts doubt on Bible claim” (Mother Nature
Network)
“The Bible was WRONG: Civilisation God ordered to be KILLED
still live and kicking” (Express)
“Genetic evidence suggests the Canaanites weren’t destroyed
after all” (Ars Technica)
“Canaanites Weren’t Annihilated by Ancient Israelites After All”
(Newser)
“Study disproves the Bible’s claim that the ancient Canaanites
were wiped out” (Click Lancashire)
“Canaanites survived Biblical ‘slaughter’, ancient DNA
shows”(ABC Online)
“DNA vs the Bible: Israelites did not wipe out the Canaanites”
(Cosmos)
“The Bible got it wrong: Ancient Canaanites survived and their
DNA lives in modern-day Lebanese” (Pulse Headlines)
These people probably never the Bible, that's what I think.
That doesn't stop them from having firm opinions. The article
goes on:
The only problem with this reporting? The Bible is detailed and
unambiguous in relating that the Canaanites survived Joshua’s
invasion. So it’s no wonder they have living descendants. I’m
not here to pass judgment on ancient Canaanites or ancient
Israelites, on the Bible, Joshua, or anyone else. But come on,
reporters, where’s your elementary cultural literacy, of which
knowing a thing or two about the Bible is a key element?
The first chapter in Judges lists all the places in Israel where
the Canaanites persisted, “to this day,” “for they did not drive
them out,” “he dwelt among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of
the land,” etc. God is not happy with this, for “they shall be
as snares to you, and their gods shall be a trap to you” (2:3).
From the Anchor Bible Dictionary, Vol. 1 (“Canaan”), “The
persistence of Canaanites within Israelite territory was a
theological problem variously addressed by biblical writers.”
The ancient DNA evidence comprises the “complete genomes of five
Canaanite individuals who lived almost 4,000 years ago in what’s
now the modern-day Lebanese city of Sidon” (Science Daily).
Interestingly, the Canaanites in that ancient city are among
those that the Bible specifically says lived on (Judges 1:31) to
cause serious trouble for the Israelites.
This finding of science didn't surprise me. I have believed
for a long time that Canaanites probably survived in Lebanon;
and they may have spread across the Mediterranean and survived
in spots too. When the New Testament says Jesus went to Tyre
and Sidon, I thought he was visiting a Canaanite area.
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Re: " If I were the Devil "...
By: CinderAsh Date: January 23, 2018, 3:10 am
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The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and
Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him,
crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter
is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and
urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she
said.
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and
toss it to the dogs.”
27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs
that fall from their master’s table.”
28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your
request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
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Re: " If I were the Devil "...
By: Kerry Date: January 23, 2018, 5:46 am
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What a pleasant surprise, Cinder Ash. . . along with a
perplexing problem. Can you believe I connect that passage to
this one?
The mysterious part for me was over who the children of Jezebel
were. It so perplexed me, I stopped reading to research it.
When I checked it out, it seems Jesus himself was a descendant
of Jezebel.
Revelation 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against
thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth
herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to
commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she
repented not.
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit
adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of
their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches
shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts:
and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as
have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of
Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
I connect the two passages because of the geography since this
was the area Jezebel's family came from. Then there's the talk
about the dogs, and dogs happened to be important in the story
about Jezebel. Lastly I suppose this demon-afflicted daughter
had a connection with the daughter of Jezebel who married into
the Messianic line.
In short, I take the mother to be none other than Jezebel
herself reincarnated and her daughter with the demon to have
been her daughter in the previous lifetime.
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Re: " If I were the Devil "...
By: HOLLAND Date: January 23, 2018, 8:37 am
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^^^I'm not aware, Kerry, of any lineal connection between
Jezebel's descendants and Jesus. I am only aware of the case of
Ruth. It is interesting speculation, though. We must always
consider that we ourselves are descendants of both good and bad.
Reincarnation? Perhaps. As we have discussed this before, a
person born in later history can embody, in spiritual terms, a
virtual meaning that encompasses a person born in earlier times.
That is my understanding of how John The Baptist was Elijah
come back again.
Welcome back, CinderAsh! I wish that all is well with you!
Paul Harvey is quite right in his views in Helen's posting in
this thread. He had anticipated much that is happening in the
present times.
I remember listening to Paul Harvey when I was young. He echoed
much country and small town folk in what was socially happening
in the big cities. Regrettably, he never realized that how much
what was happening in the cities was caused by a political and
social reaction to that culture in the country. America is much
more than a prosperous, white homogenous small town population.
It has to accept and grow into something that encompasses all of
the people of American and not simply one of its parts.
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Re: " If I were the Devil "...
By: Kerry Date: January 23, 2018, 9:32 am
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1256.msg17396#msg17396
date=1516718256]
^^^I'm not aware, Kerry, of any lineal connection between
Jezebel's descendants and Jesus. I am only aware of the case of
Ruth. It is interesting speculation, though. We must always
consider that we ourselves are descendants of both good and
bad.[/quote]
The passage I based that on is:
2 Kings 8:16 And in the fifth year of Joram the son of Ahab king
of Israel, Jehoshaphat being then king of Judah, Jehoram the son
of Jehoshaphat king of Judah began to reign.
17 Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign; and
he reigned eight years in Jerusalem.
18 And he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, as did the
house of Ahab: for the daughter of Ahab was his wife: and he did
evil in the sight of the Lord.
It seems Ahab's sons got killed. . . .
2 Kings 10:6 Then he wrote a letter the second time to them,
saying, If ye be mine, and if ye will hearken unto my voice,
take ye the heads of the men your master's sons, and come to me
to Jezreel by to morrow this time. Now the king's sons, being
seventy persons, were with the great men of the city, which
brought them up.
7 And it came to pass, when the letter came to them, that they
took the king's sons, and slew seventy persons, and put their
heads in baskets, and sent him them to Jezreel.
8 And there came a messenger, and told him, saying, They have
brought the heads of the king's sons. And he said, Lay ye them
in two heaps at the entering in of the gate until the morning.
9 And it came to pass in the morning, that he went out, and
stood, and said to all the people, Ye be righteous: behold, I
conspired against my master, and slew him: but who slew all
these?
10 Know now that there shall fall unto the earth nothing of the
word of the Lord, which the Lord spake concerning the house of
Ahab: for the Lord hath done that which he spake by his servant
Elijah.
11 So Jehu slew all that remained of the house of Ahab in
Jezreel, and all his great men, and his kinsfolks, and his
priests, until he left him none remaining.
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