DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
Love God Only
HTML https://lovegodonly.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Daily Living
*****************************************************
#Post#: 15775--------------------------------------------------
Troops at risk for suicide not getting needed help
By: guest6 Date: August 7, 2017, 3:37 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Troops at risk for suicide are being given drugs that
precipitate suicidal tendencies. I'm just really having a hard
time believing that this is actually happening. Surely these
health care providers are more competent than that. If not then
they need to get some that are. This is just uncalled for.
Troops at risk for suicide not getting needed help
WASHINGTON — Pentagon health care providers failed to perform
critical follow-up for many troops diagnosed with depression and
post-traumatic stress syndrome who also were at high risk for
suicide, according to a new study released Monday by the RAND
Corp.
Just 30% of troops with depression and 54% with PTSD received
appropriate care after they were deemed at risk of harming
themselves. The report, commissioned by the Pentagon, looked at
the cases of 39,000 troops who had been diagnosed in 2013 with
depression, PTSD or both conditions. USA TODAY received an
advance copy of the report.
“We want to ensure that they get connected with behavioral
health care,” said Kimberly Hepner, the report’s lead author and
a senior behavioral scientist at RAND, a non-partisan,
non-profit research organization. “The most immediate action —
removal of firearms — can help to reduce risk of suicide
attempts.”
The report, titled Quality of Care for PTSD and Depression in
the Military Health System, also found that one third of troops
with PTSD were prescribed with a medication harmful to their
condition.
Researchers also found that one-third of troops with depression
had received a prescription for benzodiazepine, an anti-anxiety
medication.
In major depression, benzodiazepines may precipitate suicidal
tendencies.(Wikipedia)
“It is explicitly mentioned in guidelines for treatment of PTSD
that benzodiazepines are contraindicated,” Hepner said. “We
continue to see a relatively high rate of prescription for a
medication we would hope would not be prescribed.”
HTML http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/troops-at-risk-for-suicide-not-getting-needed-help/ar-AApACvs?li=AA4ZnC&ocid=spartanntp
#Post#: 15782--------------------------------------------------
Re: Troops at risk for suicide not getting needed help
By: Kerry Date: August 7, 2017, 8:30 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Why are doctors doing that? Are they getting kickbacks from
pharmaceutical companies? Are they being lobbied by companies
to prescribe these medicines? What forms of benzodiazepine is
being prescribed? What company makes them?
Are the doctors overworked? Are they hoping the pills will mask
most of the problems if they sedate people enough, even if they
drive other people to suicide?
#Post#: 15784--------------------------------------------------
Re: Troops at risk for suicide not getting needed help
By: HOLLAND Date: August 7, 2017, 8:54 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
The OP seems to indicate the use of sedation as a substitute for
the needed recovery of rationality and emotional adjustment on
the part of the soldiers in question. This points to the recent
posited belief, and I think, fiction of mental illness as being
a series of toxic chemical actions within the brain apart from
any social interaction on the part of the supposed victim of the
supposed "illness". I would suggest that it is not the harmful
reaction of the sedation that is the issue here, but the
probability of the sedation being used as a substitute for any
of the usual supposed "therapies" that would be available is the
issue. If sedation is the only goal, why not a good bottle of
whisky instead . . .
#Post#: 15785--------------------------------------------------
Re: Troops at risk for suicide not getting needed help
By: guest6 Date: August 7, 2017, 8:54 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1255.msg15782#msg15782
date=1502155838]
Why are doctors doing that? Are they getting kickbacks from
pharmaceutical companies? Are they being lobbied by companies
to prescribe these medicines? What forms of benzodiazepine is
being prescribed? What company makes them?
Are the doctors overworked? Are they hoping the pills will mask
most of the problems if they sedate people enough, even if they
drive other people to suicide?
[/quote]
According to the article, “It is at times easier and more
immediate to provide a prescription for benzodiazepine versus
helping getting into effective psychotherapy,” Hepner said.
So why is it easier and more immediate to provide a prescription
for benzodiazepine?
I'm wondering why then it wouldn't be easier to prescribe the
right kind of prescription when they know full well that
benzodiazepines cause suicidal tendencies. That does sound like
they're pushing that drug for reasons that you suggested.
#Post#: 15787--------------------------------------------------
Re: Troops at risk for suicide not getting needed help
By: guest6 Date: August 7, 2017, 9:17 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1255.msg15784#msg15784
date=1502157264]
The OP seems to indicate the use of sedation as a substitute for
the needed recovery of rationality and emotional adjustment on
the part of the soldiers in question. This points to the recent
posited belief, and I think, fiction of mental illness as being
a series of toxic chemical actions within the brain apart from
any social interaction on the part of the supposed victim of the
supposed "illness". I would suggest that it is not the harmful
reaction of the sedation that is the issue here, but the
probability of the sedation being used as a substitute for any
of the usual supposed "therapies" that would be available is the
issue. If sedation is the only goal, why not a good bottle of
whisky instead . . .
[/quote]
Because alcohol increases suicide risks. Alcohol is a
depressant. It is known to make people more depressed is what I
mean.
PTSD and major depression needs to be treated with safe,
effective drugs for anxiety and depression and certainly not
with drugs that increase the risks for suicide. If there is
really a safe drug because they all have bad side effects. But
when we're talking about PTSD and major depression, the right
drug can be life saving.
Psychotherapy is also needed but in my opinion psychotherapy
alone will not be enough.
*****************************************************