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       Iranian TV Host Accused of Hypocrisy
       By: Kerry Date: July 27, 2017, 6:10 pm
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       I don't know what to make of this story.   The woman's
       "hypocrisy" doesn't annoy me that much.
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       An Iranian state television presenter has sparked outrage after
       footage emerged of her drinking beer without wearing a hijab
       while on holiday in Switzerland.
       The consumption of alcohol in Islam is prohibited and alcohol
       has been banned in Iran since the establishment of Islamic
       Republic government in 1979.
       Islamic dress codes are strictly enforced by 'morality police'
       in the country and women’s hair and body must be covered in
       public. Wearing the hijab, a head covering worn in public by
       Muslim women, is compulsory.
       Azadeh Namdari, who is also a presenter and actress, has
       actively endorsed wearing the hijab. Hard-line conservative
       Iranian newspaper Vatan-e Emruz published a photo of her in a
       full hijab in 2014 under the headline: “Thank God, I wear the
       veil”.
       The TV presenter has also been a keen proponent of the black
       chador which is a large piece of cloth that covers women from
       head to toe and leaves only the face exposed. It has been
       extolled by conservatives for offering women the best
       protection.
       There was no shortage of people attacking her on social media,
       and I can understand their reaction and frustration.   Maybe I'm
       wrong, but I see her as doing what many if not most people do,
       "go along to get along."   She probably doesn't really think
       drinking beer is so bad and probably doesn't believe what she's
       said about wearing the hijab.  She's living in a repressive
       regime.   We could call her a hypocrite; but I think the story
       shows us how oppression works.
       The presenter has now sought to explain herself in a two-minute
       video posted on the Young Journalists’ Club (YJC) news agency
       site under the headline: "Azadeh Namdari's reaction to the
       publication of scandalous photos in cyberspace".
       Ms Namdari said she had been sitting alongside members of her
       family and "maharem" - close relatives who a woman is not
       required to wear a hijab among – in a park. She claimed her
       scarf had fallen abruptly and the clip was immediately recorded
       by a random person. She did not mention the bottles of beer in
       the video or seek to explain them.
       But her explanation has prompted yet further criticism and
       people have branded her a “liar” and accused her of attempting
       to pull the wool over Iranian's eyes.
       In Iran, women who do not wear a hijab or are seen to be wearing
       a 'bad hijab' by allowing some of their hair to show face
       punishments spanning from fines to imprisonment.
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       Of course, she's lying.    It would have more sense to say only
       that she was with close relatives since the hijab isn't required
       then, so why add the detail that hers fell off?     The other
       woman at the table also isn't wearing a hijab.   Did she also
       lose hers momentarily at the same precise instant?
       Her story also contradicts itself when she says a random person
       took the picture.  If she was in a private setting with her
       family, there wouldn't be any  random person.   She was in a
       park, so according to the strict standards of Iran's morality
       police, she should have had her head covered.
       Those bottles  look like beer to me. Why deny it then?  Thank
       goodness she kept quiet about the beer.
       I think most people in Iran  don't support the strict guidelines
       the government imposes and most enjoy moments of relaxation when
       they don't have to obey them. Should we call it hypocrisy?
       Yes, but the hypocrisy is  the result of living in such a
       repressive regime.   If this woman wanted to be a television
       host,  she couldn't come out and say she was in favor of
       allowing people to drink beer or that she was tired of wearing
       the hijab.
       You could argue that  she could have done more good if she had
       honestly and courageously attacked values she doesn't agree
       with; but could she?   Or would she have been silenced
       immediately?   I don't have the answer on that.
       This photo has stirred people up and gotten them to thinking.
       When they hear men and women saying on radio or television how
       important it is to wear the hijab, how serious are they?   Most
       Iranians already know that they do not live a country where
       people are free to say what they honestly think.  They know that
       much of it is bogus; and I think this scandal erodes what little
       faith some have in their government and  in what they hear and
       read.
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       Re: Iranian TV Host Accused of Hypocrisy
       By: guest6 Date: July 28, 2017, 3:12 am
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       [Quote]An Iranian state television presenter has sparked outrage
       after footage emerged of her drinking beer without wearing a
       hijab while on holiday in Switzerland.[/Quote]
       They need to be even more outraged with the hypocrisy of the men
       especially the religious leaders who impose and enforce those
       laws against women.
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       Re: Iranian TV Host Accused of Hypocrisy
       By: Kerry Date: July 28, 2017, 6:14 am
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       [quote author=Heartsong link=topic=1250.msg15657#msg15657
       date=1501229531]
       They need to be even more outraged with the hypocrisy of the men
       especially the religious leaders who impose and enforce those
       laws against women.
       [/quote]Men who think they will feel more manly by oppressing
       women, even beating and raping them in the name of religion and
       morality, are not very manly if you ask me.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSeWf3KGMsA
       Speaking of hypocrisy:  I just found this weird case in
       Indonesia too where a Saudi cleric who went on "shariah patrols"
       to enforce his ideas about morality found himself in the middle
       of a sexting scandal.
  HTML http://jakartaglobe.id/news/fpi-leader-rizieqs-alleged-involvement-porn-scandal-odd-conspiracy/
       Jakarta Police earlier said sufficient evidence was collected to
       name Rizieq a suspect in the case, however lawyers representing
       Rizieq said any investigation into a pornography case allegedly
       involving the leader should be terminated due to "invalid
       evidence," implying the police obtained material illegally
       through unauthorized wiretapping.
       Usman emphasized that the pornography case was the least
       relevant or appropriate charges that could be filed against
       Rizieq.
       "Even though the police obtained evidence from unknown sources,
       the chat itself is a personal domain that did no harm to public
       interests," he said.
       Usman said pursuing criminal charges against Rizieq relative to
       the pornography law could potentially breach the cleric's
       personal liberty and freedom of expression as outlined in the
       International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), to
       which Indonesia is a member.
       "Of course, it does not mean we can also tolerate when the FPI
       uses their force to make other citizens comply with their
       ideology in the form of sweeping or any form of violence. It is
       the same with the hate speech that Rizieq has conducted on many
       occasions," Usman said.
       In recent months, FPI members reportedly threatened and abused
       netizens for posting damaging opinions about the firebrand
       cleric on social media, including a case of a 15-year-old
       student in East Jakarta who was beaten by Rizieq followers.
       Of course, supporters rushed to defend him no matter if he was
       innocent or guilty.
       Meanwhile, Ian Wilson, a lecturer in politics and security
       studies and a research fellow at Murdoch University’s Asia
       Research Center in Perth, Australia, said the allegations
       against Rizieq are seen by serious FPI members as an odd
       conspiracy against their sacred religious leader.
       Wilson, well known for his research on the political economy of
       gangs, political violence and organized crime in Indonesia, said
       FPI followers believe that law enforcement officials are bending
       existing law to criminalize their leader.
       "[FPI members] cannot believe it is possible that [Rizieq] could
       have done and said the things he has been accused of doing,"
       Wilson said. "Many of his believers strongly feel that he is of
       a high moral fiber."
       "The main issue here I think is the basis in which the
       [authorities] are trying to pursue [...] Rizieq," he added.
       "And I think it is ironic on one level that [the authorities]
       are using a law that in fact the FPI and the other very
       conservative groups pushed very hard to have enacted – the porn
       law," he said.
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       Re: Iranian TV Host Accused of Hypocrisy
       By: paralambano Date: July 28, 2017, 10:39 am
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       Both of these stories just go to show that the truth will emerge
       anyway, somewhere, somehow when people are repressed and for the
       oppressors as well since repression is not man's "natural"
       state. It's just a matter of time before implosion. A house of
       cards.
       para .  .  .  .
       #Post#: 15668--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Iranian TV Host Accused of Hypocrisy
       By: HOLLAND Date: July 28, 2017, 3:18 pm
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       ^^^In a certain sense, the Iranian TV host is acting with
       hypocrisy, but she is reflecting what is going on in Islam.
       Mentally, many in Islam are leaving that faith.  They've had
       enough of it.  They have not verbally renounced Islam but they
       are subverting it from within.
       This subversion takes many forms.  The mass migration of Syrians
       out of Syria and into Europe is indicating the loss of faith
       that they have in Islam.  If you're a believer you do not
       emigrate to Dar al'Harb.  You only do so if you've become tired
       of the oppression and continued hostility.  For these people,
       they have ceased to believe that Paradise is to be found under
       the shadow of swords . . .
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