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Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Power
By: HOLLAND Date: May 28, 2017, 12:42 pm
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At this point, given the strong possibility that there are
compromised citizens that are within the Trump Administration;
that is to say, citizens that are suspected of illicit financial
and security practices, it would be good to understand how such
citizens are vulnerable to a foreign power.
Below is a video from British Television which is about the
destruction of a Soviet spymaster, Karla, through the turning of
one of his agents, Grigoriev, in Switzerland. It is based upon
a book by John Le Carre called Smiley's People. Grigoriev, a
Soviet trade official, was compromised by performing illicit
financial transactions on behalf of Karla, and when British
Intelligence discovered it, they promptly blackmailed Grigoriev
and had him disclose Soviet state secrets.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRdgPzYbvWo
It is sobering to think that Kushner or others in the Trump
Administration could, possibly, be blackmailed much like
Grigoriev . . .
#Post#: 15052--------------------------------------------------
Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: Kerry Date: May 28, 2017, 9:00 pm
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1220.msg15051#msg15051
date=1495993344]
At this point, given the strong possibility that there are
compromised citizens that are within the Trump Administration;
that is to say, citizens that are suspected of illicit financial
and security practices, it would be good to understand how such
citizens are vulnerable to a foreign power.
Below is a video from British Television which is about the
destruction of a Soviet spymaster, Karla, through the turning of
one of his agents, Grigoriev, in Switzerland. It is based upon
a book by John Le Carre called Smiley's People. Grigoriev, a
Soviet trade official, was compromised by performing illicit
financial transactions on behalf of Karla, and when British
Intelligence discovered it, they promptly blackmailed Grigoriev
and had him disclose Soviet state secrets.
It is sobering to think that Kushner or others in the Trump
Administration could, possibly, be blackmailed much like
Grigoriev . . .[/quote]I heard part of a hearing -- I think it
was the ex-director of the CIA, John Brennan -- that dealt with
this topic. Rich people from Russia are sometimes used to gain
introductions to citizens; and the relationship could go on for
some time without the citizen doing anything wrong. Things
start off slowly and you can get sucked into a desperate
situation without fully knowing how you got there. You can
imagine how it could be -- one indiscretion could lead to you
doing something you wouldn't want to do -- and if you do that,
they got more blackmail on you. Brennan didn't mention names,
in fact, carefully avoided it -- but not only did Kushner come
to mind, so did Ivanka who's friends with Dasha Zhukova, the
wife of one of Putin's closest friend Roman Abramovic who owns
the Chelsea Football Club. Ironically, Dasha Zhuhova
supported Hillary, even donating money to her.
Then there's Wendi Deng Murdoch (ex-Fox TV personality and
ex-wife of Rupert Murdoch) who went on a vacation with Ivanka.
Kushner introduced Murdoch and Ivanka. I don't know how
Kushner met Murdoch. Murdoch has been rumored to be Putin's
girlfriend, but she says she's never met him. Who knows? There
are rumors about Putin having an affair (if not children) with
the gymnast too, Alina Maratovna Kabaeva. What we do know
about Putin is that the Russian Orthodox Church kept silent when
he divorced his wife and has had nothing to say if he is having
affairs or secretly remarried.
Wendi Deng Murdoch is someone I'd be afraid to hang out with.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng_Murdoch#Personal_life
When Deng was living with Jake and Joyce Cherry during Deng's
studies in the United States, Joyce Cherry discovered her
husband, Jake, was having an affair with Deng, who was 30 years
his junior, and demanded Deng leave the house. Jake Cherry soon
followed and moved in with Deng, and the two married in
1990.[9] Their marriage lasted 2 years 7 months before they were
legally divorced,[10] but Jake would later explain they stayed
together for only four or five months, when he learned that
Deng was spending time with David Wolf, a man closer to her
age.[9] Nonetheless, she had been able to secure a green card
through her marriage to Cherry.
In 1997 she met Rupert Murdoch, who was 37 years her senior,
while working as the only Chinese executive at the Murdoch-owned
Star TV in Hong Kong. They married in 1999 on board his yacht
"Morning Glory"less than three weeks after the finalisation of
his divorce from his second wife, Anna Murdoch. Following the
marriage, she was branded a "gold digger" by sources close to
Murdoch, including family members. The couple had two children,
Grace (born 2001) and Chloe (born 2003). Tony Blair is Grace
Murdoch's godfather. In June 2013, Murdoch filed for divorce
from Deng, citing irreconcilable differences.
On February 5, 2014, The Daily Telegraph published a report
claiming Deng had a crush on Tony Blair, leading to her divorce
from Murdoch. The report stated that Murdoch began to hear
rumors about his wife in 2012 and is said to have interviewed
staff members at his various homes to ask them what they had
seen. According to the newspaper, Murdoch learned that Blair had
visited Deng at Murdoch's Carmel ranch on more than one
occasion. Blair allegedly spent the weekend of April 27, 2013,
with Deng at the property. Other sources are quoted as placing
Blair and Deng at The Carlyle in New York, on a private yacht,
and at Murdoch's home in London. An article in The Economist
claimed that as a result of Murdoch's suspicion that Blair had
an affair with Deng, he ended his long-standing association with
Blair in 2014.
The British press reported a rumor that she was a Chinese spy.
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2412479/Clive-Palmer-claims-Murdoch-divorcing-Wendi-Deng-Chinese-spy.html
That would surely be interesting if true since Rupert Murdoch
and his sons were embroiled in the scandal where his
organization tapped phones of famous people to get news. Wendi
was his wife at the time and rushed to his defense when a
comedian tried to throw a pie at him at a hearing in Parliament.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_International_phone_hacking_scandal
Towards the end of the Murdochs' two hours of evidence, a
protestor sitting in the public gallery, identified as comedian
Jonnie Marbles, threw a shaving-foam pie at Rupert Murdoch. The
incident propelled Murdoch's wife, Wendi Deng Murdoch, into the
media spotlight for her athletic response in defence of her
husband. Marbles later said that he had "much respect" for Deng
for fighting back. Marbles, real name Jonathan May-Bowles, was
sentenced to six weeks in prison for the attack.
I am not saying she is a Chinese spy; but suppose she was, and
suppose too that she had access to the tapped phone calls?
Coming back to the US and the case of Flynn. Why would he lie
about mentioning sanctions to the Russian ambassador? I don't
get it. But he did lie, and Trump knew he lied and didn't fire
him until it became public knowledge. That's weird too. Then
there was the man Flynn hired for a job and who the CIA said
failed their security test. No one has said why he flunked,
and the matter has not been discussed since.
HTML http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/319073-top-flynn-aide-rejected-for-key-security-clearance-report
A top aide to national security adviser Michael Flynn was denied
security clearance to serve on the National Security Council
(NSC), Politico reported late Friday.
Robin Townley, the senior Africa director on the NSC, learned on
Friday that the CIA had denied his “Sensitive Compartmented
Information” security clearance.
CIA director Mike Pompeo approved of the rejection, the report
said.
“They believe this is a hit job from inside the CIA on Flynn and
the people close to him,” an unnamed source told Politico.
“Townley believes that the CIA doesn’t run the world.”
Townley's career looks pretty harmless to me. I'd say the CIA
probably knows something I don't know; and it could be something
not that big but still something that makes him vulnerable to
blackmail.
I believe the policy of the FBI and CIA is to inform US citizens
at times if they are tapping a foreigner's phone calls and
something comes up that suggests someone is trying to recruit
the citizen and that he may be in over his head. At other times
perhaps they wait to see what happens. The situation would be
sensitive, to say the least.
How would you react if you were President and the intelligence
community gave you evidence that someone working for you was
potentially vulnerable to blackmail and might possibly be
recruited as an agent of a foreign power? I'd be grateful
for being informed. Yet Trump seemed resentful for some
reason.
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Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: HOLLAND Date: May 30, 2017, 7:27 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1220.msg15052#msg15052
date=1496023210]
I heard part of a hearing -- I think it was the ex-director of
the CIA, John Brennan -- that dealt with this topic. Rich
people from Russia are sometimes used to gain introductions to
citizens; and the relationship could go on for some time without
the citizen doing anything wrong. Things start off slowly and
you can get sucked into a desperate situation without fully
knowing how you got there. You can imagine how it could be --
one indiscretion could lead to you doing something you wouldn't
want to do -- and if you do that, they got more blackmail on
you. Brennan didn't mention names, in fact, carefully avoided
it -- but not only did Kushner come to mind, so did Ivanka who's
friends with Dasha Zhukova, the wife of one of Putin's closest
friend Roman Abramovic who owns the Chelsea Football Club.
Ironically, Dasha Zhuhova supported Hillary, even donating money
to her. [/quote]
I would agree, Kerry. This is indeed the situation, and I think
the American elite is particularly vulnerable given that so many
of its members believe in the"Sovereign Individual" ideology
that arose among conservatives that advocated an anarchism of
the wealthy and the subversion of democracy. Those who believe
that they are Sovereign Individuals do not believe that they
need to follow their nation's laws or values.
[quote]Then there's Wendi Deng Murdoch (ex-Fox TV personality
and ex-wife of Rupert Murdoch) who went on a vacation with
Ivanka. Kushner introduced Murdoch and Ivanka. I don't know
how Kushner met Murdoch. Murdoch has been rumored to be
Putin's girlfriend, but she says she's never met him. Who
knows? There are rumors about Putin having an affair (if not
children) with the gymnast too, Alina Maratovna Kabaeva. What
we do know about Putin is that the Russian Orthodox Church kept
silent when he divorced his wife and has had nothing to say if
he is having affairs or secretly remarried.
Wendi Deng Murdoch is someone I'd be afraid to hang out with.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng_Murdoch#Personal_life
When Deng was living with Jake and Joyce Cherry during Deng's
studies in the United States, Joyce Cherry discovered her
husband, Jake, was having an affair with Deng, who was 30 years
his junior, and demanded Deng leave the house. Jake Cherry soon
followed and moved in with Deng, and the two married in
1990.[9] Their marriage lasted 2 years 7 months before they were
legally divorced,[10] but Jake would later explain they stayed
together for only four or five months, when he learned that
Deng was spending time with David Wolf, a man closer to her
age.[9] Nonetheless, she had been able to secure a green card
through her marriage to Cherry.
In 1997 she met Rupert Murdoch, who was 37 years her senior,
while working as the only Chinese executive at the Murdoch-owned
Star TV in Hong Kong. They married in 1999 on board his yacht
"Morning Glory"less than three weeks after the finalisation of
his divorce from his second wife, Anna Murdoch. Following the
marriage, she was branded a "gold digger" by sources close to
Murdoch, including family members. The couple had two children,
Grace (born 2001) and Chloe (born 2003). Tony Blair is Grace
Murdoch's godfather. In June 2013, Murdoch filed for divorce
from Deng, citing irreconcilable differences.
On February 5, 2014, The Daily Telegraph published a report
claiming Deng had a crush on Tony Blair, leading to her divorce
from Murdoch. The report stated that Murdoch began to hear
rumors about his wife in 2012 and is said to have interviewed
staff members at his various homes to ask them what they had
seen. According to the newspaper, Murdoch learned that Blair had
visited Deng at Murdoch's Carmel ranch on more than one
occasion. Blair allegedly spent the weekend of April 27, 2013,
with Deng at the property. Other sources are quoted as placing
Blair and Deng at The Carlyle in New York, on a private yacht,
and at Murdoch's home in London. An article in The Economist
claimed that as a result of Murdoch's suspicion that Blair had
an affair with Deng, he ended his long-standing association with
Blair in 2014.
The British press reported a rumor that she was a Chinese spy.
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2412479/Clive-Palmer-claims-Murdoch-divorcing-Wendi-Deng-Chinese-spy.html
That would surely be interesting if true since Rupert Murdoch
and his sons were embroiled in the scandal where his
organization tapped phones of famous people to get news. Wendi
was his wife at the time and rushed to his defense when a
comedian tried to throw a pie at him at a hearing in Parliament.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_International_phone_hacking_scandal
Towards the end of the Murdochs' two hours of evidence, a
protestor sitting in the public gallery, identified as comedian
Jonnie Marbles, threw a shaving-foam pie at Rupert Murdoch. The
incident propelled Murdoch's wife, Wendi Deng Murdoch, into the
media spotlight for her athletic response in defence of her
husband. Marbles later said that he had "much respect" for Deng
for fighting back. Marbles, real name Jonathan May-Bowles, was
sentenced to six weeks in prison for the attack.
I am not saying she is a Chinese spy; but suppose she was, and
suppose too that she had access to the tapped phone calls?
[/quote]
It is highly probable that Deng is a Chinese spy. It sounds
logical and it is highly ironic that she was so close to Murdoch
given his support for conservative politics in his news
programming such as Fox.
Perhaps William Buckley, if he could see present conservatives,
would reject them as being such, given their indifference to
national laws and values.
[quote]Coming back to the US and the case of Flynn. Why would
he lie about mentioning sanctions to the Russian ambassador? I
don't get it. But he did lie, and Trump knew he lied and didn't
fire him until it became public knowledge. That's weird too.
Then there was the man Flynn hired for a job and who the CIA
said failed their security test. No one has said why he
flunked, and the matter has not been discussed since.
HTML http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/319073-top-flynn-aide-rejected-for-key-security-clearance-report
A top aide to national security adviser Michael Flynn was denied
security clearance to serve on the National Security Council
(NSC), Politico reported late Friday.
Robin Townley, the senior Africa director on the NSC, learned on
Friday that the CIA had denied his “Sensitive Compartmented
Information” security clearance.
CIA director Mike Pompeo approved of the rejection, the report
said.
“They believe this is a hit job from inside the CIA on Flynn and
the people close to him,” an unnamed source told Politico.
“Townley believes that the CIA doesn’t run the world.”
Townley's career looks pretty harmless to me. I'd say the CIA
probably knows something I don't know; and it could be something
not that big but still something that makes him vulnerable to
blackmail.
I believe the policy of the FBI and CIA is to inform US citizens
at times if they are tapping a foreigner's phone calls and
something comes up that suggests someone is trying to recruit
the citizen and that he may be in over his head. At other times
perhaps they wait to see what happens. The situation would be
sensitive, to say the least.
How would you react if you were President and the intelligence
community gave you evidence that someone working for you was
potentially vulnerable to blackmail and might possibly be
recruited as an agent of a foreign power? I'd be grateful
for being informed. Yet Trump seemed resentful for some
reason.
[/quote]
Even before the election results, Trump had blasted the American
Intelligence community calling it fascistic. It was about the
same time, as I remember, that he again failed to release his
tax returns. At that time I linked the undisclosed tax returns
to the possibility of Trump having Russian financial
connections. Since he still fails to release those returns, I'm
sure he's hiding something. We shall see, eventually . . .
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Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: Kerry Date: May 31, 2017, 12:22 am
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1220.msg15075#msg15075
date=1496190465]
I would agree, Kerry. This is indeed the situation, and I think
the American elite is particularly vulnerable given that so many
of its members believe in the"Sovereign Individual" ideology
that arose among conservatives that advocated an anarchism of
the wealthy and the subversion of democracy. Those who believe
that they are Sovereign Individuals do not believe that they
need to follow their nation's laws or values. [/quote]
I wonder if the two Trump sons would pass a security background
check? One of them allegedly commented once that Russian money
poured into their projects. He denied later making that
comment; but I wonder. If American banks turn you down because
of bankruptcies, what do you do?
[quote]It is highly probable that Deng is a Chinese spy. It
sounds logical and it is highly ironic that she was so close to
Murdoch given his support for conservative politics in his news
programming such as Fox.[/quote]It's something to think about.
[quote]Perhaps William Buckley, if he could see present
conservatives, would reject them as being such, given their
indifference to national laws and values. [/quote]They aren't
conservatives in my book.
[quote]Even before the election results, Trump had blasted the
American Intelligence community calling it fascistic. It was
about the same time, as I remember, that he again failed to
release his tax returns. At that time I linked the undisclosed
tax returns to the possibility of Trump having Russian financial
connections. Since he still fails to release those returns, I'm
sure he's hiding something. We shall see, eventually . .
.[/quote]
One wonders why he sold so many properties to rich Russians?
The easy answer is they had the money to spend; but it raises
some unpleasant questions. We know he sold a property to a
rich Chinese woman, "a princess", the daughter of some bigwig;
and it's known too that she is part of a network that spies.
Bill Clinton declined to give a speech for them.
There's also the matter of the Russian gangster living in Trump
Tower -- and add to this list, his lawyer who just recently told
Congress he was not going to cooperate with them when they asked
for information.
HTML http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/congressional-russia-probe-now-includes-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-n766231
President Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, told NBC
News on Tuesday that if he is issued a subpoena as part of
Congressional probes into Russian interference in the U.S.
election he will testify.
Earlier, Cohen said that he has received requests for
information from the Senate and House intelligence committees
but said he wouldn't comply.
"I declined the invitation to participate," said Cohen, "as the
request was poorly phrased, overly broad and not capable of
being answered."
Cohen said he has received a letter requesting he list his
Russia contacts and supply email and other communications but no
subpoena.
"I have nothing to hide, I will make myself available and I am
more than happy and willing to testify but they have to be
specific," Cohen told NBC News Tuesday evening.
Nothing to hide? Does that mean he's going to blab about the
his legal cases in which he's represented Russians or Americans
doing business in Russia? What about client confidentiality?
Cohen doesn't seem quite human to me. He doesn't understand how
most other people think. He's the fellow who posted a photo of
his daughter in lingerie and didn't understand it when other
people found it odd.
HTML http://nypost.com/2017/05/14/trumps-lawyer-tweets-out-sexy-picture-of-his-daughter/
President Trump’s longtime lawyer Michael Cohen has been firing
back at haters on social media who are calling him out for
tweeting a picture Sunday night of his very own daughter wearing
lingerie.
“So proud of my Ivy League daughter…brains and beauty channeling
her Edie Sedgwick,” Cohen tweeted, referencing Andy Warhol’s
muse and plugging his daughter Samantha’s Instagram profile,
@samichka_.
The pic shows her in a black lace bra and stockings, and was
posted around 8:30 p.m. — causing an uproar on social media.
Hundreds of people replied to the post, some of whom Cohen
responded to himself.
“Jealous?” Cohen wrote in response to a tweet from a woman who
used a vulgar term for the picture of Samantha.
“Most fathers don’t post lingerie shots of their daughters. I
guess #Trump must be rubbing off on you,” wrote another user.
“Beauty and brains you a-hole!” Cohen fumed in a response that
tweet. “It’s a modeling shot remake from an old Edie Sedgwick
photo. #hater.”
He strikes me as someone who could easily be compromised by
foreign intelligence services.
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Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: Kerry Date: May 31, 2017, 12:51 am
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On a different matter, I see that a Chinese company which had
owned a large chunk of Grindr stock just bought the rest so now
they own it outright. Why would they want a gay dating
website? For financial reasons only?
HTML http://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2095674/chinese-tech-firm-fully-buy-gay-dating-app-grindr
A little-known Chinese tech company has agreed to pay US$240
million for America’s Grindr so that it can become fully
involved in the daily operations of the world’s largest gay
social media app, as it expands and builds a loyal user base
beyond China.
Beijing Kunlun Tech, a game developer owned by 38-year-old
billionaire Zhou Yahui, said on Wednesday it planned to pay
US$152 million to buy the remaining 38 per cent stake in Grindr
that it does not already own. Kunlun paid about US$88 million
for a 62 per cent stake of the social media app in January last
year, which meant that the startup’s valuation has gained 161
per cent since the Chinese firm’s last purchase.
“It is of strategic importance for us to fully engage in the
daily operations of Grindr and make it our development
milestone,” Kunlun said in a statement.
I wonder why the American government allowed this to happen. I
see it as a security risk. In the United States, I suppose it
would be people who are in the closet who could be blackmailed;
but elsewhere in the world where being gay is banned, the
Chinese could blackmail almost anyone who used the service if
they could identify them. This would give China a big
advantage in these countries -- and in this country too if they
wanted to blackmail prominent lawyers, ministers, and
politicians they identified as using Grindr. No one seems to
see the dangers posed. I think maybe I should write my
Senators and Congressman about it.
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Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: Kerry Date: July 9, 2017, 12:54 pm
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1220.msg15075#msg15075
date=1496190465]
Even before the election results, Trump had blasted the American
Intelligence community calling it fascistic. It was about the
same time, as I remember, that he again failed to release his
tax returns. At that time I linked the undisclosed tax returns
to the possibility of Trump having Russian financial
connections. Since he still fails to release those returns, I'm
sure he's hiding something. We shall see, eventually . .
.[/quote]We may be a little closer to seeing now.
HTML https://www.circa.com/story/2017/07/09/politics/russian-lawyer-who-got-inside-donald-trumps-inner-circle-had-been-denied-us-visa
By her own account, the Russian lawyer that managed to slide her
way into Trump Tower last year and meet with President Donald
Trump’s eldest son, his campaign manager and son-in-law is a
former Moscow prosecutor who had been denied a visa to enter the
United States Natalia Veselnitskaya filed an affidavit in a
federal case in New York describing how she managed to get
special permission to enter the United States after the visa
denial to help represent a Russian company called Prevezon
Holdings owned by the Russian businessman Denis Katsyv in a case
brought against it by U.S. prosecutors.
It seems so far, the Donald has kept quiet, leaving his lawyers
do the talking.
President Trump’s lawyers said Saturday they feared
Veselnitskaya’s meeting at Trump Tower may have been part of a
broader election opposition effort to smear the Republican by
creating the impression he and his family had extensive ties to
Russia as the Kremlin was interfering in the 2016 election.
“We have learned from both our own investigation and public
reports that the participants in the meeting misrepresented who
they were and who they worked for,” said Mark Corallo, a
spokesman for President Trump’s legal team. “Specifically, we
have learned that the person who sought the meeting is
associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public
reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop
opposition research on the President and which commissioned the
phony Steele dossier. "
"These developments raise serious issues as to exactly who
authorized and participated in any effort by Russian Nationals
to influence our election in any manner,” Corallo said.
Reince Priebus suggested that perhaps the Democrats had set
Donald Jr. up. Sure, sure!
HTML http://www.mediaite.com/tv/priebus-suggests-dems-set-up-trump-team-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-may-spin-out-of-control-for-dnc/
During an appearance on Fox News Sunday, White House Chief of
Staff Reince Priebus said that the meeting was a “nothingburger”
for the Trump team while suggesting it could have been an
attempt by Democrats to set up the Trump campaign, linking it to
the infamous Steele dossier.
Pointing to previous statements made by Trump outside counsel
Mark Corallo in which the lawyer said they’d seen hints that the
Russian attorney misrepresented who she was working for and that
it may have been part of a Dem opposition effort, Priebus noted
that this could hurt the Democratic Party in the future.
“I don’t know much about it other than it seems to be on the end
of the Trump individuals a nothingburger but may spin out of
control for the DNC and the Democrats,” Priebus told host Chris
Wallace.
When pressed later by Wallace why the Trump team even would have
wanted to meet with a Russian attorney about the issue of
adoption, Priebus said he had no idea and that Wallace would
have to “talk to them.”
Great question from Wallace. Why indeed would Kushner,
Manafort, and Donald Jr. want to discuss the matter of American
adoption of Russian children with this lawyer?
What seems to go over the heads of Trump's lawyer (perhaps) is
that Fusion could have been playing both the Democrats and
Republicans, trying to hedge their bets. Both Democrats and
Republicans look tarnished a bit to me.
So what got said at this meeting? Will Kushner, Manafort and
Donald Jr. all tell the same story? The New York Times has
Donald Jr.'s story:
In his statement, Donald Trump Jr. said: “It was a short
introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We
primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian
children that was active and popular with American families
years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it
was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow
up.”
He added: “I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance,
but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with
beforehand.”
Late Saturday, Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the president’s
lawyer, issued a statement implying that the meeting was a
setup. Ms. Veselnitskaya and the translator who accompanied her
to the meeting “misrepresented who they were,” it said.
This doesn't quite jive. Junior said he was asked to attend
this meeting by "an acquaintance." Who? Tell us who. Corallo
implies Velnitskaya and the translator wormed their way into the
meeting by misrepresenting who they were. Back in March,
Donald Jr. lied:
Donald Trump Jr. had denied participating in any
campaign-related meetings with Russian nationals when he was
interviewed by The Times in March. “Did I meet with people that
were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” he said. “But none that
were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And
certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way,
shape or form.”
Asked at that time whether he had ever discussed government
policies related to Russia, the younger Mr. Trump replied, “A
hundred percent no.”
I guess if the Times printed what he said, they were printing
lies!
What does Manafort have to say about the meeting? Nothing
publicly so far, it seems.
Mr. Manafort, the former campaign chairman, also recently
disclosed the meeting, and Donald Trump Jr.’s role in organizing
it, to congressional investigators who had questions about his
foreign contacts, according to people familiar with the events.
A spokesman for Mr. Manafort declined to comment. In response to
questions, Ms. Veselnitskaya said the meeting lasted about 30
minutes and focused on the Magnitsky Act and the adoption issue.
“Nothing at all was discussed about the presidential campaign,”
she said, adding, “I have never acted on behalf of the Russian
government and have never discussed any of these matters with
any representative of the Russian government.”
Ha, the real question may be if she ever worked for the people
who were sanctioned or was still working for them. If Russia
responded to those sanctions with the adoption ban, I would
think her wanting to discuss the adoption ban was probably
linked to having the sanctions removed. The meeting would have
gone nowhere fast if Junior and Kushner weren't that interested
in Americans adopting Russian babies. Maybe Manafort would have
been interested if offered money, but I doubt either Kushner or
Junior would be that interested in money that much that they
take bribes. I don't think they're that low. Not that I like
either of them, but I don't see them as willing to take obvious
bribes; and the Russian lawyer knew it would have been a mistake
to try that. I'm guessing. That's all I can do now; but
perhaps time will reveal more of the details. I am particularly
interested in who the anonymous acquaintance is that suggested
the meeting to Junior. (Don't tell me it was a Democrat!
John Podesta? Ha!)
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Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: Kerry Date: July 16, 2017, 11:01 pm
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One of the President's lawyers said something that makes me
believe something is being covered up.
HTML http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-blames-secret-service
Jay Sekulow, a member of President Donald Trump’s legal team, on
Sunday aired a new defense for Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a
Russian lawyer who promised him damaging information on Hillary
Clinton: The Secret Service should not have “allowed these
people in” to meet with Trump’s eldest son.
“I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the
Secret Service allowed these people in,” Sekulow said on ABC’s
“This Week,” referring to Trump’s protection detail as the
Republican candidate. “The President had Secret Service
protection at that point, and that raised a question with me.”
This is weird for more than one reason. First of all, Sekulow
is not Donald Junior's lawyer. It's not his job to render
opinions about Junior. Secondly, it just downright stupid to
try to blame the Secret Service; and the Secret Service
responded quickly to this bizarre accusation.
HTML http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1A10Q9
In an emailed response to questions about Sekulow's comments,
Secret Service spokesman Mason Brayman said the younger Trump
was not under Secret Service protection at the time of the
meeting, which included Trump's son and two senior campaign
officials.
"Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June,
2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with
at that time," the statement said.
Surely Mr. Sekulow should know who gets Secret Service
protection and when.
Nor does the Secret Service decide who's allowed in the country.
The State Department, under President Obama, made that call.
So what made Mr. Sekulow make such a stupid comment? After
all, he has been named to some list of prominent attorneys, and
I think he's argued cases in the Supreme Court. So what would
possess him to make a comment about Donald Jr.'s case and such a
bizarre comment at that? I'd say his mind is spinning, and
he's trying to come up with something -- and the President
probably told him part of his job is to try to defend Junior.
Well, really now, I don't get the focus on Junior. What
Manafort did was worse since he was the campaign manager. And
what Jared Kushner did is worse too since he lied about being at
this meeting; and if he wanted to lie about it, why didn't he
delete the emails on his computer that prompted his lawyers to
tell all he knew and to turn them over to the government?
Kushner keeps revising his list of foreign contacts; and he lied
officially when filing the form about it. Yet no one seems to
be asking why his security clearance isn't revoked. It is a
crime to do what he did. We call call what Junior did dubious
or unsavory; but what Kushner did was a crime.
Of course, we still don't have all the story. Donald Jr. gave
no indication of receiving any "dirt on Hillary"; but the
ex-military intelligence agent from Russia who was there also
said papers were laid down and he couldn't recall if anyone
picked them up.
All told, the whole thing strikes me as a comedy of errors.
Junior was basically saying he tried to collude with the
Russians but failed because they didn't have what they promised.
And so many people were there! I knew, of course, that the
Russian lawyer couldn't speak English -- so that told me someone
else had to be there. It turns out there were three other
Russians. So is this any way to conduct hush-hush business?
If I wanted to collude with someone and that many people showed
up at the meeting, I'd have to pretend I was stupid and didn't
know what they wanted. Eight people at this meeting and they
still couldn't come up with something substantial? I wouldn't
want to embark on a scheme of any kind with any one of the eight
people -- none seem to know how to keep anything secret.
Of course, too, the idea is preposterous that the Russians were
hot and bothered that Russian babies can't be adopted in the
US. Why talk to Americans about that? The Russian government
made that decision. So it wasn't really about adopting babies.
Get real. It was about sanctions. The Russians imposed the ban
on adoptions after sanctions were placed on some important
Russian people. That's what it was really about. The people
who talked admitted sanctions were mentioned, but all sides
seemed to want to put the emphasis on the adoptions.
I also find the timing of certain events fascinating. While
President Trump is said not to have known of this meeting for a
long time, it was only hours after the meeting was set up that
he boasted he'd make revelations about Hillary soon.
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4688608/Trump-teased-Clinton-speech-Trump-Jr-set-meeting.html
President Donald Trump previewed a 'major speech' attacking
Hillary Clinton last June, just hours after his son, Donald
Trump Jr, set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer he was told had
damaging information about the Democratic candidate.
In a speech on June 7, 2016, Trump said that 'probably Monday of
next week' he would deliver a 'major speech' featuring a
discussion of 'all of the things that have taken place with the
Clintons'.
The speech came just four days after Trump Jr was contacted by
publicist Rob Goldstone, who claims that he has information
obtained by the Russian government that he said would
incriminate Clinton.
The meeting, which eventually took place on June 9, was
organized just hours before Trump took the stage at Trump
National Golf Club Westchester in scenic Briarcliff, New York,
after a series of Primary elections on June 7.
The now-President failed to follow through with his pledge to
reveal dirt on Clinton during the campaign, and never gave the
speech he promised.
Read more:
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4688608/Trump-teased-Clinton-speech-Trump-Jr-set-meeting.html#ixzz4n3UsqdTE<br
/>
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What is the lesson here? Sometimes you should look a
gift-horse in the mouth, especially if the person offering it is
Russian or Chinese. If someone calls or emails you with such an
offer, call the Justice Department or the FBI to see what they
think.
I think the Russians played both sides. They certainly
embarrassed Hillary, and now they're embarrassing the Trumps.
What happened as a matter of fact may not be that important --
it probably wasn't -- the cover-ups and denials may be worse
than what happened. After all, how important could it be to get
dirt on Hillary? There are already mountains of dirt to deal
with. Who needs more?
If the Russian intention was to hamper the operation of the US
government, I'd say it worked. Notice too how fast the Russians
were to blab. And too how fast Rob Goldstone was to say, "That
was me. I set that meeting up." And he could even say, "And I
got to go to the meeting too. See? I was at Trump Tower that
day." I don't know if he stayed for the meeting since he said
in an email he'd introduce them and leave; but even that is
still a bit much for me.
I don't get why the counter-intelligence guy was there -- or why
the "client" who wanted Russian babies adopted in the US would
be there. I sort of get why a translator would be there; but
that amazes me too. If I were Junior and wanted such a
meeting, I would arranged it on a one-to-one basis and expected
to meet only one person. I also wouldn't have held it at Trump
Tower! I wouldn't have sent emails to several people about it
or asked them to tag along. If I then got dirt on Hillary, I'd
deliver it in person to my father. If there had been a request
about sanctions, I would have told him that -- on a one-to-one
basis without nobody else listening.
The client wanting to be there is almost amusing. I wonder who
it was. If you can't trust your own attorney to do what you
want and want to be along with him or her when they're
representing you, my advice is to find a lawyer you can trust.
By all means consider someone who can speak English too. I am
sure there are Russian lawyers who speak English. It's weird
since that attorney had denied a visa to enter the US. She got
a special exemption from the Obama administration.
HTML http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump
The Moscow lawyer had been turned down for a visa to enter the
U.S. lawfully but then was granted special immigration parole by
then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch for the limited purpose of
helping a company owned by Russian businessman Denis Katsyv, her
client, defend itself against a Justice Department asset
forfeiture case in federal court in New York City.
During a court hearing in early January 2016, as Veselnitskaya’s
permission to stay in the country was about to expire, federal
prosecutors described how rare the grant of parole immigration
was as Veselnitskaya pleaded for more time to remain in the
United States.
“In October the government bypassed the normal visa process and
gave a type of extraordinary permission to enter the country
called immigration parole,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul
Monteleoni explained to the judge during a hearing on Jan. 6,
2016.
“That's a discretionary act that the statute allows the attorney
general to do in extraordinary circumstances. In this case, we
did that so that Mr. Katsyv could testify. And we made the

further accommodation of allowing his Russian lawyer into
the country to assist,” he added.
The prosecutor said the Justice Department was willing to allow
the Russian lawyer to enter the United States again as the trial
in the case approached so she could help prepare and attend the
proceedings.
The court record indicates the presiding judge asked the Justice
Department to extend Veselnitskaya’s immigration parole another
week until he decided motions in the case. There are no other
records in the court file indicating what happened with that
request or how Veselnitskaya appeared in the country later that
spring.
The U.S. Attorney’s office in New York confirmed Wednesday to
The Hill that it let Veselnitskaya into the country on a grant
of immigration parole from October 2015 to early January 2016.
Justice Department and State Department officials could not
immediately explain how the Russian lawyer was still in the
country in June for the meeting with Trump Jr. and the events in
Washington.
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Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: Kerry Date: July 17, 2017, 6:32 am
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I found this about Sekulow said ironic and amusing.
HTML http://www.businessinsider.com/jay-sekulow-interview-trump-jr-full-ginsberg-2017-7
While Trump Jr.'s lawyers have remained primarily behind the
scenes, the president's personal lawyer has become a ubiquitous
presence on television, performing the so-called "Full Ginsberg"
by appearing on all five major political talk shows on Sunday.
In five interviews on Sunday, Jay Sekulow downplayed Trump's
knowledge of the meeting, attended by Trump Jr., then campaign
chief Paul Manafort, and current adviser Jared Kushner, and
dodged and deflected questions by repeatedly criticizing former
FBI Director James Comey, the Democratic National Committee, and
the US Secret Service, among others.
Okay, so he every show he could on Sunday, and the press (bad
mainstream media) gave him platforms. Now get this:
Sekulow's primary tactic in each interview was an attempt to
paint Comey as an attention seeker, blasting the former director
for taking a book deal, and noting that the FBI director passed
the New York Times information about his private meetings with
Trump.
Comey is the big attention seeker? Well, Sekulow may have
brought himself more attention than he would want with the
allegations now of his siphoning off millions of dollars from a
"Christian charity" into the pockets of family members.
HTML https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/27/trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-donations
Documents obtained by the Guardian show Sekulow that month
approved plans to push poor and jobless people to donate money
to his Christian nonprofit, which since 2000 has steered more
than $60m to Sekulow, his family and their businesses.
Telemarketers for the nonprofit, Christian Advocates Serving
Evangelism (Case), were instructed in contracts signed by
Sekulow to urge people who pleaded poverty or said they were out
of work to dig deep for a “sacrificial gift”.
“I can certainly understand how that would make it difficult for
you to share a gift like that right now,” they told retirees who
said they were on fixed incomes and had “no extra money” –
before asking if they could spare “even $20 within the next
three weeks”.
In addition to using tens of millions of dollars in donations to
pay Sekulow, his wife, his sons, his brother, his sister-in-law,
his niece and nephew and their firms, Case has also been used to
provide a series of unusual loans and property deals to the
Sekulow family.
Attorneys and other experts specialising in nonprofit law said
the Sekulows risked violating a federal law against nonprofits
paying excessive benefits to the people responsible for running
them. Sekulow declined to detail how he ensured the payments
were reasonable.
“This is all highly unusual, and it gives an appearance of
conflicts of interest that any nonprofit should want to avoid,”
said Daniel Borochoff, the president of CharityWatch, a
Chicago-based group that monitors nonprofits.
#Post#: 15554--------------------------------------------------
Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: HOLLAND Date: July 18, 2017, 7:02 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1220.msg15531#msg15531
date=1500264078]
One of the President's lawyers said something that makes me
believe something is being covered up.
HTML http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-blames-secret-service
Jay Sekulow, a member of President Donald Trump’s legal
team, on Sunday aired a new defense for Donald Trump Jr.’s
meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised him damaging
information on Hillary Clinton: The Secret Service should not
have “allowed these people in” to meet with
Trump’s eldest son.
“I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious,
why the Secret Service allowed these people in,” Sekulow
said on ABC’s “This Week,” referring to
Trump’s protection detail as the Republican candidate.
“The President had Secret Service protection at that point,
and that raised a question with me.”
This is weird for more than one reason. First of all, Sekulow
is not Donald Junior's lawyer. It's not his job to render
opinions about Junior. Secondly, it just downright stupid to
try to blame the Secret Service; and the Secret Service
responded quickly to this bizarre accusation.
HTML http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1A10Q9
In an emailed response to questions about Sekulow's comments,
Secret Service spokesman Mason Brayman said the younger Trump
was not under Secret Service protection at the time of the
meeting, which included Trump's son and two senior campaign
officials.
"Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June,
2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with
at that time," the statement said.
Surely Mr. Sekulow should know who gets Secret Service
protection and when.
Nor does the Secret Service decide who's allowed in the country.
The State Department, under President Obama, made that call.
So what made Mr. Sekulow make such a stupid comment? After
all, he has been named to some list of prominent attorneys, and
I think he's argued cases in the Supreme Court. So what would
possess him to make a comment about Donald Jr.'s case and such a
bizarre comment at that? I'd say his mind is spinning, and
he's trying to come up with something -- and the President
probably told him part of his job is to try to defend Junior.
Well, really now, I don't get the focus on Junior. What
Manafort did was worse since he was the campaign manager. And
what Jared Kushner did is worse too since he lied about being at
this meeting; and if he wanted to lie about it, why didn't he
delete the emails on his computer that prompted his lawyers to
tell all he knew and to turn them over to the government?
Kushner keeps revising his list of foreign contacts; and he lied
officially when filing the form about it. Yet no one seems to
be asking why his security clearance isn't revoked. It is a
crime to do what he did. We call call what Junior did dubious
or unsavory; but what Kushner did was a crime.
Of course, we still don't have all the story. Donald Jr. gave
no indication of receiving any "dirt on Hillary"; but the
ex-military intelligence agent from Russia who was there also
said papers were laid down and he couldn't recall if anyone
picked them up.
All told, the whole thing strikes me as a comedy of errors.
Junior was basically saying he tried to collude with the
Russians but failed because they didn't have what they
promised.[quote]
That's my impression on this, Kerry. An attempt on the part of
a political campaign to obtain information from a source that
relates back to a hostile power is a serious matter. Some on
the media are calling it a form of treason. That may be
overblown, but Trump and family are probably in a compromised
state where they can be blackmailed by a foreign power.
[quote]And so many people were there! I knew, of course, that
the Russian lawyer couldn't speak English -- so that told me
someone else had to be there. It turns out there were three
other Russians. So is this any way to conduct hush-hush
business? If I wanted to collude with someone and that many
people showed up at the meeting, I'd have to pretend I was
stupid and didn't know what they wanted. Eight people at this
meeting and they still couldn't come up with something
substantial? I wouldn't want to embark on a scheme of any kind
with any one of the eight people -- none seem to know how to
keep anything secret.[/quote]
I suppose that the Russians were amused at the crude tradecraft
of the Trump campaign. So how it goes.
[quote]Of course, too, the idea is preposterous that the
Russians were hot and bothered that Russian babies can't be
adopted in the US. Why talk to Americans about that? The
Russian government made that decision. So it wasn't really
about adopting babies. Get real. It was about sanctions. The
Russians imposed the ban on adoptions after sanctions were
placed on some important Russian people. That's what it was
really about. The people who talked admitted sanctions were
mentioned, but all sides seemed to want to put the emphasis on
the adoptions.[/quote]
I agree. Russian baby adoption is preposterous. In tradecraft,
the cover story about the meeting is the first business, then
the real business follows after that. It has to be the economic
sanctions that the Russians were interested about and
information on the Clinton campaign that the Trumps were
interested in. I think that more was going on that what has
been said about this meeting.
[quote]I also find the timing of certain events fascinating.
While President Trump is said not to have known of this meeting
for a long time, it was only hours after the meeting was set up
that he boasted he'd make revelations about Hillary soon.
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4688608/Trump-teased-Clinton-speech-Trump-Jr-set-meeting.html
President Donald Trump previewed a 'major speech' attacking
Hillary Clinton last June, just hours after his son, Donald
Trump Jr, set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer he was told had
damaging information about the Democratic candidate.
In a speech on June 7, 2016, Trump said that 'probably Monday of
next week' he would deliver a 'major speech' featuring a
discussion of 'all of the things that have taken place with the
Clintons'.
The speech came just four days after Trump Jr was contacted by
publicist Rob Goldstone, who claims that he has information
obtained by the Russian government that he said would
incriminate Clinton.
The meeting, which eventually took place on June 9, was
organized just hours before Trump took the stage at Trump
National Golf Club Westchester in scenic Briarcliff, New York,
after a series of Primary elections on June 7.
The now-President failed to follow through with his pledge to
reveal dirt on Clinton during the campaign, and never gave the
speech he promised.
Read more:
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4688608/Trump-teased-Clinton-speech-Trump-Jr-set-meeting.html#ixzz4n3UsqdTE<br
/>
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What is the lesson here? Sometimes you should look a
gift-horse in the mouth, especially if the person offering it is
Russian or Chinese. If someone calls or emails you with such an
offer, call the Justice Department or the FBI to see what they
think.[/quote]
I would agree. I suspect that perhaps the Trump people, at the
meeting, asked for and received assurances of help from the
Russians in the upcoming general election. This may not have
been directly asked and answered in the meeting but had been
obliquely asked and answered using language in a way that is in
keeping with tradecraft.
[quote]I think the Russians played both sides. They certainly
embarrassed Hillary, and now they're embarrassing the Trumps.
What happened as a matter of fact may not be that important --
it probably wasn't -- the cover-ups and denials may be worse
than what happened. After all, how important could it be to get
dirt on Hillary? There are already mountains of dirt to deal
with. Who needs more?
If the Russian intention was to hamper the operation of the US
government, I'd say it worked. Notice too how fast the Russians
were to blab. And too how fast Rob Goldstone was to say, "That
was me. I set that meeting up." And he could even say, "And I
got to go to the meeting too. See? I was at Trump Tower that
day." I don't know if he stayed for the meeting since he said
in an email he'd introduce them and leave; but even that is
still a bit much for me.[/quote]
I would agree.
[quote]I don't get why the counter-intelligence guy was there --
or why the "client" who wanted Russian babies adopted in the US
would be there. I sort of get why a translator would be there;
but that amazes me too. If I were Junior and wanted such a
meeting, I would arranged it on a one-to-one basis and expected
to meet only one person. I also wouldn't have held it at Trump
Tower! I wouldn't have sent emails to several people about it
or asked them to tag along. If I then got dirt on Hillary, I'd
deliver it in person to my father. If there had been a request
about sanctions, I would have told him that -- on a one-to-one
basis without nobody else listening.[/quote]
The counter-intelligence man had to be there to check to see if
this was a CIA operation being done by the Trumps. I believe
that he was pleasantly surprised to learn that it was an amateur
operation cobbled together by the Trump campaign. It is not
good tradecraft to have one on one meetings between important
officials since there is a lack of witnesses to confirm the
basis of the meeting.
[quote]The client wanting to be there is almost amusing. I
wonder who it was. If you can't trust your own attorney to do
what you want and want to be along with him or her when they're
representing you, my advice is to find a lawyer you can trust.
By all means consider someone who can speak English too. I am
sure there are Russian lawyers who speak English. It's weird
since that attorney had denied a visa to enter the US. She got
a special exemption from the Obama administration.
HTML http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump
The Moscow lawyer had been turned down for a visa to enter the
U.S. lawfully but then was granted special immigration parole by
then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch for the limited purpose of
helping a company owned by Russian businessman Denis Katsyv, her
client, defend itself against a Justice Department asset
forfeiture case in federal court in New York City.
During a court hearing in early January 2016, as
Veselnitskaya’s permission to stay in the country was about
to expire, federal prosecutors described how rare the grant of
parole immigration was as Veselnitskaya pleaded for more time to
remain in the United States.
“In October the government bypassed the normal visa
process and gave a type of extraordinary permission to enter
the country called immigration parole,” Assistant U.S.
Attorney Paul Monteleoni explained to the judge during a hearing
on Jan. 6, 2016.
“That's a discretionary act that the statute allows the
attorney general to do in extraordinary circumstances. In this
case, we did that so that Mr. Katsyv could testify. And we made
the 
further accommodation of allowing his Russian lawyer
into the country to assist,” he added.
The prosecutor said the Justice Department was willing to allow
the Russian lawyer to enter the United States again as the trial
in the case approached so she could help prepare and attend the
proceedings.
The court record indicates the presiding judge asked the Justice
Department to extend Veselnitskaya’s immigration parole
another week until he decided motions in the case. There are no
other records in the court file indicating what happened with
that request or how Veselnitskaya appeared in the country later
that spring.
The U.S. Attorney’s office in New York confirmed Wednesday
to The Hill that it let Veselnitskaya into the country on a
grant of immigration parole from October 2015 to early January
2016.
Justice Department and State Department officials could not
immediately explain how the Russian lawyer was still in the
country in June for the meeting with Trump Jr. and the events in
Washington.
[/quote]
I suppose this lawyer may have a connection to Russian
Intelligence and may be considered an asset. It could be that
she is working cover and is, indeed, functioning as a lawyer.
Many agents who function abroad from their country do this.
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1220.msg15534#msg15534
date=1500291136]
I found this about Sekulow said ironic and amusing.
HTML http://www.businessinsider.com/jay-sekulow-interview-trump-jr-full-ginsberg-2017-7
While Trump Jr.'s lawyers have remained primarily behind the
scenes, the president's personal lawyer has become a ubiquitous
presence on television, performing the so-called "Full Ginsberg"
by appearing on all five major political talk shows on Sunday.
In five interviews on Sunday, Jay Sekulow downplayed Trump's
knowledge of the meeting, attended by Trump Jr., then campaign
chief Paul Manafort, and current adviser Jared Kushner, and
dodged and deflected questions by repeatedly criticizing former
FBI Director James Comey, the Democratic National Committee, and
the US Secret Service, among others.
Okay, so he every show he could on Sunday, and the press (bad
mainstream media) gave him platforms. Now get this:
Sekulow's primary tactic in each interview was an attempt to
paint Comey as an attention seeker, blasting the former director
for taking a book deal, and noting that the FBI director passed
the New York Times information about his private meetings with
Trump.
Comey is the big attention seeker? Well, Sekulow may have
brought himself more attention than he would want with the
allegations now of his siphoning off millions of dollars from a
"Christian charity" into the pockets of family members.
HTML https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/27/trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-donations
Documents obtained by the Guardian show Sekulow that month
approved plans to push poor and jobless people to donate money
to his Christian nonprofit, which since 2000 has steered more
than $60m to Sekulow, his family and their businesses.
Telemarketers for the nonprofit, Christian Advocates Serving
Evangelism (Case), were instructed in contracts signed by
Sekulow to urge people who pleaded poverty or said they were out
of work to dig deep for a “sacrificial gift”.
“I can certainly understand how that would make it
difficult for you to share a gift like that right now,”
they told retirees who said they were on fixed incomes and had
“no extra money” – before asking if they could
spare “even $20 within the next three weeks”.
In addition to using tens of millions of dollars in donations to
pay Sekulow, his wife, his sons, his brother, his sister-in-law,
his niece and nephew and their firms, Case has also been used to
provide a series of unusual loans and property deals to the
Sekulow family.
Attorneys and other experts specialising in nonprofit law said
the Sekulows risked violating a federal law against nonprofits
paying excessive benefits to the people responsible for running
them. Sekulow declined to detail how he ensured the payments
were reasonable.
“This is all highly unusual, and it gives an appearance of
conflicts of interest that any nonprofit should want to
avoid,” said Daniel Borochoff, the president of
CharityWatch, a Chicago-based group that monitors nonprofits.
[/quote]
This all sounds, Kerry, like clumsy disinformation. The trouble
with lies is that they have a limited shelf life; they
eventually spoil in plain view . . .
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Re: Turning a Compromised Citizen Into An Agent of a Foreign Pow
er
By: HOLLAND Date: August 27, 2017, 9:19 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
^^^Given that there may be a release of information regarding
"The Trump Dossier" and the British agent, Christopher Steele,
this week by the Congress, it is likely that it will become
increasingly apparent to the public of the likely betrayal of
the country by either Trump or members of his family or
Administration. As far as I know, there is little to contradict
the accuracy of this dossier.
if there is treason, this is going to get people killed. I pray
that the damage to the security of the country can be quickly
restored.
This had happened to the United kingdom in the 1950s-1960s. It
was fictionalized in John Le Carre's book Tinker, Tailor,
Soldier, Spy. The ending credits of the following video shows
the religious hope of the period. Let us hope and pray in the
Lord.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFS6lO6WaaM
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