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Lionel Messi
By: Kerry Date: March 30, 2017, 6:15 am
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I heard on the BBC that Lionel Messi was banned for four games
for using foul language. From the Daily Mail
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4357110/Messi-banned-Argentina-games-six-hours-Bolivia.html:<br
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Lionel Messi was banned for four World Cup qualifying matches
after a foul-mouthed rant at a linesman.
Messi was suspended after his outburst during last week’s 1-0
win over Chile. He misses four of Argentina’s final five
qualifiers — the first of which saw them slump to a 2-0 defeat
in Bolivia on Tuesday night.
He only discovered his fate six hours before Argentina kicked
off that crucial game.
The Barcelona genius and five-time Ballon d'Or winner was also
given a fine of around £8,100.
Messi said 'la concha de tu madre', which translates as 'your
mother's ****' — a common cursing phrase in Argentina — to
Brazilian linesman Emerson Augusto do Carvalho at the end of the
match after being harried and fouled by Chile's Jean Beausejour.
The official patted him on the head and tried to calm him down
but Messi continued ranting.
Carvalho said later he did not understand at the time what Messi
was saying.
'I only realised he was swearing afterwards on reading the
press,' he said.
That's a little weird to me. He learned that he should ban him
after he read about it in the press? I saw him patting Messi
on the head and wondered why Messi got banned if he was patting
him on the head. Then I read this -- that he reacted to
something he read in the press.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y38fSaaO8g
I'm not the only person who thinks it looks a little fishy.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQmTpIp_5l4
Still, Messi should not have said that. I can look at it that
way too.
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: paralambano Date: March 30, 2017, 12:35 pm
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Kerry -
Ya, Messi should not have said what he did.
I watched that game. He and his teammates were being mauled at
times by the Chileans who as far as I'm concerned don't need to
play that way at all. I think that they are if not the most
beautiful footballing national team now, they are very close to
it.
Messi is captain of Argentina. He was seeing several calls not
made against Chile for tackling and other infractions. With just
a few minutes to go, he was on the busy-ball in the upper-right
midfield along the touch line with one or two defenders giving
him the knock-about as he was driving the ball to the corner in
order to kill time on the clock (a fair-play tactic). No call
made by the ref. The game ended and Messi started spouting off
at one of the officials. I was thinking that this is not good
since I rarely see this from him. I was hoping he'd stop and
just walk off but he didn't. He kept on jawing at the official.
This was a needless incident since Argentina were closing out
the game with a 1-0 victory courtesy of Messi's penalty kick.
Later, I discover that the ref had not written the incident up
at all. A commentator or a reporter had said the Chilean
Football Association had filed a complaint with FIFA over
Messi's mouth, FIFA reviewed it, then suspended Messi for four
international games. This is really bad for Argentina since
Messi is their talisman. The team is currently fifth in the
CONMEBOL WC qualifiers and if they had no more qualifiers, they
would be out of the WC in Russia. The concept is pretty much
unthinkable to me that the best player in the world would not be
there and I'm sure there are strong feelings in Argentina.
The thing is (and I haven't really looked into it), the
Argentine FA is a mess. The team itself is playing poorly,
disconnected. What a drop down from the way they played as
finalists v Deutschland in the WC in Rio 2014. They appear to be
a shadow of that team now. Yesterday, they lost to Bolivia in La
Paz 2-0. Yes, teams find it hard playing at altitude there but
Argentina is Argentina one of the top five footballing experts
on the planet and they should have done better even without Leo.
There was the Mauro Icardi incident which seems to have quieted
down and something monetary happening between the Argentine
footballing association and FIFA as to how money got
distributed. A reporter said that this could have been a way for
FIFA getting back at Argentina for some payments or other. I
really don't know since I haven't looked into it (time). If
there's anything you can find about it, I'd appreciate it :).
[quote]Still, Messi should not have said that. I can look at it
that way too.[/quote]
I totally agree with this :).
para . . . .
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: paralambano Date: April 1, 2017, 8:07 am
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Leo's letter to FIFA:
HTML http://vivabarca.net/messi-letter-to-fifa/
HTML http://vivabarca.net/messi-letter-to-fifa/
Don't worry, Leo. Diego is taking care of it with FIFA!:
HTML http://www.espnfc.us/argentina/story/3092387/diego-maradona-to-lobby-fifa-calls-lionel-messi-ban-terrible-for-argentina
HTML http://www.espnfc.us/argentina/story/3092387/diego-maradona-to-lobby-fifa-calls-lionel-messi-ban-terrible-for-argentina
para . . . .
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: paralambano Date: April 1, 2017, 8:21 am
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My good son L;
My confessional is open to all every fourth
Monday-Wednesday-Friday 1pm-1:30pm, 11:30pm-11:45pm, every third
Tuesday 5:54am -6:43am and every 5th on the calendar year
Saturday from 12:39pm-1:20pm.
In the meantime, I recommend 10 laps around the pitch with the
stone in boot and the savina roja upon the tongue for purgation.
Sincerely,
Monsignor I.ago U.mberto Absolvo,
Church of the Donation Plate
Buenos Aires
Argentina
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: Kerry Date: April 1, 2017, 4:50 pm
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It seems to me that Messi was upset over a lot of things he
thought should have been noticed by referees but which they
ignored.
For me, this is another example of how "resisting evil" can lead
to failure. His flare up got most of the attention with few
people talking about what led up to it. If he had been able to
keep cool, it probably would have been easier to get something
done about the miscalls of the refs.
It also seems to me that this incident shows that someone needs
to come up more explicit rules along with explicit penalties for
breaking the rules. If you're making things up as you go,
things can get too political. No one can say if a penalty was
fair or not.
I'm not sure who picks the refs or how they go about picking
them; but something may need to be changed there too.
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: paralambano Date: April 1, 2017, 5:59 pm
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A twofer. All he had to do is ask his Federation to file a
complaint over or a review of the official.
By the way, Messi has an unrelated suspension v Granada tomorrow
in La Liga Santander. Receive a fifth yellow card and you're out
for the next game. The fearful are already worrying about
Barca's success without him. Have they forgotten so soon? Out
last year for some months, Barca lost one game without him.
Some players know how to time yellow fifths to coincide with the
end of international breaks. They want a break from the travel
say from South America to Europe with time zone adjustments.
It's called the "FIFA flu". Sometime they'll take a fifth to
miss playing against a weaker team. That way they'll be cleared
to play against a tougher upcoming opponent. Some are betting
that Cristiano will purposely take his fifth tomorrow against
the weaker Deportivo Alaves because Real plays Atletico Madrid
in a derby April 8. Atletico is a tough team to beat.
I doubt this is what Messi had in mind by his rant at the end of
the Chile game since his suspension is solely international.
I don't know. Lately, Leo seems to be going from crisis to
crisis. It can't be the beard. Here's hoping he learns some
things and things get better for him.
para . . . .
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: Kerry Date: April 2, 2017, 3:45 pm
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Barcelona did okay without Messi, I see.
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: paralambano Date: April 2, 2017, 4:06 pm
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Kerry -
Ya. I watched the game. Granada is fighting off relegation. They
are a weak team who gave Barca a good run until it fell apart
for them.
Woo-hoo, Enrique finally went to La Masia and had Carles Alena
out there in midfield for the last few minutes!
Beautiful setting of the estadio in Granada with mountains close
in background. The commentator asked why go to the game with
that beauty there and then said oh, ya, Barcelona's here.
*I'm watching Napoli v Juventus next. It's high Italian opera
with the ex-Napoli (Maradona's old team) Argentine "traitor"
Gonzalo Higuain returning with Juventus without ever having said
goodbye!!! It's north v south (this stuff goes deeper in soccer
mad places) and the Italian press have been full of the drama
all week. I'm watching the game in delay since the station had
my team playing broadcast in the same slot.
Mama mia! Mama mia!!! Wooooooohooohooohoooo. Cena luna mezzo
mare . . . .
para . . . .
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: Kerry Date: April 3, 2017, 8:46 pm
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What was that, another game with most of the goals made at the
end of the game? You say, "it fell apart for them." Do you
get the feeling they stopped trying once the score was 2 to 1?
The psychology interests me. If the score is 1 to 1 or 0 to 0,
you could think to yourself it's still worth trying, you could
still win. But when it's close to the end of the game and your
opponents get a 1 point advantage on you, you could fall into
despair and think the best you could hope for would be a tie and
that wouldn't be likely so you stop trying and then the other
team really clobbers you.
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Re: Lionel Messi
By: paralambano Date: April 5, 2017, 2:53 pm
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Kerry -
I should think that any despair Granada might have felt over
having to play FC Barcelona could have vanished when they tied
the game in the 50th minute. Neither I nor the commentators
thought that Granada had given up when Barca struck for three
more goals before the end of the match.
Granada is a club sitting squarely in the drop zone trying to
find a way to stay up in La Liga Santander. Barca is trying to
keep pace with Real Madrid in the title race. Both clubs had it
all to play for. A club does not give up in their home park.
Believe it or not, some opponents believe it a "moment" when
they score against a team like Barcelona especially in Camp Nou.
The pitch is too big anywhere for anyone to give up let alone a
whole team. The slightest mistakes are magnified by all. If
Granada had given up, Barca would have rained goals down upon
them. You continue to play hard and suffer. That's a word used
often in Euro ball. The clock keeps on ticking. There are no
real breaks but at half-time. It's relentless. No time-outs for
coaches to regroup their players or give pep-talks. The clock
stops for no one. Waste time? It will be added on after the 90.
You had all week or several days to prepare for this game. So,
now you need time for your coach to tell you what to do against
your opponent? This is part of the psychology of this game.
One often plays for honour in Spain. A club can get thrashed 5-0
say but are always playing hard for the "honour goal". It is
something more than a consolation goal as we think of it here in
North America.
It looks like Barcelona is back to form. I've just got done
watching them rule, and I mean rule Jorge Sampaoli's Sevilla
with a first half display of breathtaking football the likes of
which they haven't played all season. It was a statement. At
times, they appeared to be toying with this very good side.
Messi roared back with two goals and Suarez had a superb
backward volley strike. The commentator said that Barcelona
could have dismantled any team the way they played this
afternoon. I was half-welled up in tears watching their art
unfold. It's been a while :):
HTML http://www.totalsportek.com/highlights/barcelona-vs-sevilla-replay-video-super-cup/
HTML http://www.totalsportek.com/highlights/barcelona-vs-sevilla-replay-video-super-cup/
(The wood is still vibrating on that Messi miss at 3:23 . . .
. .)
para . . . .
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