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Male or female?
By: KerimF Date: December 7, 2016, 12:58 am
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When I was much younger and while I was listening to my radio
set, a kid asked me:
Who made this radio?
I told him: "Philips".
He went on asking: Is Philips male or female?
If you were in my place, how would you describe the real maker
of this simple radio set to a kid? ;)
The fresh mind of a kid is not yet ready to see/imagine (as he
will do when adult) that a name, as ‘Philips’, may not refer to
one person only, but, instead, to more than one person forming
all one entity/company, called ‘Philips’.
So, is the human brain of every man, in our present time,
evolved enough to get the full image of its Maker/Creator?
First, I personally don’t need asking myself if the Will/Power
that created me is male or female ;)
Jesus who belongs to this Will/Power and came to the world in a
living flesh as mine gave me a simplified but useful image of
It. This simplified image (the Father and the Son, Jesus,
unified by the Spirit of the Divine Love, the Holy Spirit)
happens being enough to show me (my soul) the path (the Way) to
the Kingdom of my Creator. Of course, I am also free to live or
not the Unconditional Divine Love towards all others. But all
other paths will simply return me back to the state of void (the
state before I was brought into this space/time realm).
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Re: Male or female?
By: paralambano Date: December 7, 2016, 11:52 am
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Well, Kerim, if you're satisfied with that, then you're
satisfied with that :).
[quote]So, is the human brain of every man, in our present time,
evolved enough to get the full image of its
Maker/Creator?[/quote]
It's the spirit in man that receives understanding of spiritual
things, not the material brain however evolved. The spirit
recovers what's everlasting and true, what it's lost, like
layers being peeled back on an onion.
para . . . .
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Re: Male or female?
By: Brad Date: December 7, 2016, 5:05 pm
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Phillips is not a personal first name in this case, its a family
last name, with both male and female having it. And it became
a big company where the Phillips family no longer make the
radios, but they hire other people to do it for them.
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Re: Male or female?
By: Brad Date: December 7, 2016, 5:07 pm
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But your explanation is good.
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Re: Male or female?
By: Kerry Date: December 7, 2016, 6:11 pm
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1142.msg13460#msg13460
date=1481093895]
[size=12pt]When I was much younger and while I was listening to
my radio set, a kid asked me:
Who made this radio?
I told him: "Philips".
He went on asking: Is Philips male or female?
If you were in my place, how would you describe the real maker
of this simple radio set to a kid? ;)
The fresh mind of a kid is not yet ready to see/imagine (as he
will do when adult) that a name, as ‘Philips’, may not refer to
one person only, but, instead, to more than one person forming
all one entity/company, called ‘Philips’.[/quote]
What language was this conversation in? As you know, different
languages have different genders for things; and some almost
require a thing to have a gender. Others like English let nouns
be neutral unless you specify a gender. It all goes to show
though, doesn't it, that a lot of "reality" is invented and we
say it's true when it's only something we agreed to say is
true.
So, is the human brain of every man, in our present time,
evolved enough to get the full image of its Maker/Creator?
First, I personally don’t need asking myself if the Will/Power
that created me is male or female ;)
[quote]Jesus who belongs to this Will/Power and came to the
world in a living flesh as mine gave me a simplified but useful
image of It. This simplified image (the Father and the Son,
Jesus, unified by the Spirit of the Divine Love, the Holy
Spirit) happens being enough to show me (my soul) the path (the
Way) to the Kingdom of my Creator. Of course, I am also free to
live or not the Unconditional Divine Love towards all others.
But all other paths will simply return me back to the state of
void (the state before I was brought into this space/time
realm). [/quote]
I like the word "elohim" in Hebrew. That's a feminine noun --
"eloh" with the masculine plural ending "-im." What do you do
with that? Is it masculine or feminine? Ah, it's both, isn't
it? "God" can be whatever He/She wants to be at the moment.
Is it singular or plural? Or both somehow? The Hebrew reads
YHVH ELHM is one. In other words, a plural noun is said to be
singular.
Generally speaking, I see four ways God can be expressed.
Impersonal masculine = Father
Personal masculine = Son
Impersonal feminine = Mother earth, the feminine principle
Personal feminine = Holy Spirit
If the Holy Spirit resides in someone, God is in that person.
We should reverence that -- not reverence the person but the
personal expression of God given to that person. If the person
has perfected himself or herself, he or she becomes a "son of
God" -- and it doesn't matter what sex their physical body is.
They can be said to be both male and female, expressing both.
A great deal is made of it when the Holy Spirit is said one time
to be a "he" in the New Testament. But Shekinah, the glory of
God, is feminine in Hebrew. Conventional theology describes
God as three masculine figures. Where's the feminine then?
I find it hard to think of "God the Father" as a "person"
although we talk of Him that way. But remember now, Jesus also
referred to the Father as a "what" instead of as a "who."
This impersonal masculine expression is "something" I cannot
see. Jesus could see "it" or "him" but I can't. What I know
about that is what I've been told -- what has been revealed to
me by Jesus and by the saints from what they have seen.
Good question though -- it shows how impossible it is to "fit"
God into a box using words as if words could be used to "limit"
God.
What was the purpose of Jesus coming in a physical body? Ah,
that was so the masculine impersonal God could combine with
the impersonal unmanifested expression of God (of Mother Earth)
so that God could be made manifest as a "Son of God." God can
fill the whole universe. The purpose of man was so God might
be made manifest and expressed. God wants to crown man with His
Glory, manifesting through men and women.
Psalm 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels,
and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
If and when God grants us some of His Light or Glory, we become
like lamps that give light to others. We are supposed to share
this Light so others see the Light of God and know God is real.
We can describe Jesus as the Light of the world; but we having
received that Light from him, are to to shine it to others.
Matthew 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set
on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but
on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the
house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your
good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
What is man? Is man male or female? Genesis says both. "The
man" was made "male and female" to resemble the Elohim. The
division of "the Man" into male and female was so they could
procreate. A temporary affair. They would merge to become one
again. When perfection is achieved, there is neither male nor
female -- so people won't marry or be given in marriage.
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