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       Sorcery?    
       By: Kerry Date: September 2, 2016, 8:40 pm
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       This is crazy.  Is it "sorcery"?   From
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       [quote]We've talked a lot about sorcery on this blog. Here's an
       example, and another and one more. But what happened between the
       El Paso Chihuahuas (a Padres Triple-A affiliate) and Las Vegas
       51s (Mets) on Thursday is downright disturbing.
       With two outs in the top of the seventh inning, 51s batter Eric
       Campbell nubbed a foul ball in the direction of the first-base
       dugout and then, well, just watch (warning: the following may be
       unsettling for some viewers):
       Yes, as you can see, that ball was nearly in the first-base
       dugout and wound up cutting back across into fair territory for
       the easy out at first base.
       Look at the ballboy thinking he was gonna get himself a ball!
       Not tonight, ballboy!
       Does Chihuahuas first baseman Diego Goris have a giant baseball
       magnet in his glove? Did pitcher Eric Yardley throw a yo-yo to
       the plate instead of a baseball? Is there some giant chihuahua
       in the sky controlling ground balls with its mind?
       We may never know, and honestly -- do we even want to?[/quote]
       You Tube also had it.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZIwEV-_LE4
       My guess is the ball had a lot of spin on it. . . .
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: paralambano Date: September 3, 2016, 9:07 am
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       Here's one I happened to see while watching the game:
       [quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQGo19mJn8o[/quote]
       Sports and politics? It's the spin, baby!
       para .  .  .  .
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: Kerry Date: September 8, 2016, 6:28 pm
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       I had to watch that clip several times.   First there was the
       question of how he did it.   Did he do it on purpose?  Had he
       practiced such shots?   Did he know where to kick the ball to
       give it that spin?
       I'm thinking maybe he did.   Maybe he was trying to pass it to
       the other fellow so he could kick it in; but it didn't look like
       that to me after watching it several times.   The other guy was
       a little too far back, I thought.
       Out on my paper route, I was wondering what the goalie was
       doing.   I can sympathize with him if he didn't think anyone
       could kick the ball from the side that way and make a goal; but
       what was he doing?   Why did he go so far away from the goal?
       Trying to get possession of the ball?   Oh my, did he ever
       misjudge that situation.
       I was in the gym one day in high school -- I forget why I was
       there, waiting for someone I think -- and our team's basketball
       star was in there too.   We got along fine in school so we were
       talking; and he was showing me some of his stuff.    He showed
       me how he could stand in front of the basket and make the ball
       hit the backboard on the left side of the basket and then have
       it bounce into the basket.   How useful that was in games, I
       don't know -- but he seemed to enjoy being able to do it.
       I found another startling video but can't figure out which clip
       it's from at You Tube or where it is inside the clip.  So I'll
       post the link to the Guardian's version
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2016/sep/04/spennymoor-town-goalkeeper-scores-80-yard-free-kick-in-fa-cup-qualifier-video<br
       />of it.  It doesn't involve spin though.
       [quote]The Spennymoor Town goalkeeper Dan Lowson scores an
       80-yard free-kick in the first round of FA Cup qualifying
       against Radcliffe Borough on Saturday. The footage posted on
       Spennymoor Town FC’s official YouTube page shows Lowson scoring
       a free-kick from inside his own box, with the ball’s bounce
       catching his opposite number by surprise. Moors went on to win
       5-3[/quote]
       Taking the "opposite number" by surprise?  I'd say so!    Is
       there a lesson for us in that?  Could be.  Be prepared for
       almost anything!
       And then this fellow in a wheelchair and doing flips!
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: paralambano Date: September 13, 2016, 11:03 am
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       Kerry -
       I've watched Mohamad Salah play for Fiorentina and Roma as a
       forward. He's very good on the ball and speedy. I'd say he was
       going for goal with his kick.  These players practice all sorts
       of things with the ball and some have a good "feel" for the way
       the ball is in motion. Some Latins even treat it like a
       girlfriend, kissing and caressing it before a game. When they
       miss, some will call out "puta" meaning that the ball had
       betrayed them. I've seen a female, Brazilian team-member mouth
       this word in a game this summer when things didn't go her way.
       The keeper was very brave to come out as he did. He could have
       gotten an accidental boot in the face. As far as I know, Salah
       is not a dirty player. It looked like the keeper was trying to
       possess the ball but failed to hold onto it. He might have done
       better to have punched it out wide but listen to me Monday
       morning quarterbacking.
       It looks to me that it was poor keeping by the Radcliffe goalie.
       He might have misjudged the bounce as it got over him. Some
       canny players wait for keepers to come too far off their line
       when the ball is in the opposite half and then have a go over
       them from their end of the field. A wonderful goal from just
       past the half-way line for Roma was scored by Alessandro
       Florenzi this way v my team, FC Barcelona in the Champions
       League last season:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-wluKSqKMA
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-wluKSqKMA
       para .  .  .  .
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: Kerry Date: September 14, 2016, 12:46 pm
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       [quote author=paralambano link=topic=1121.msg12908#msg12908
       date=1473782634]
       The keeper was very brave to come out as he did. He could have
       gotten an accidental boot in the face. As far as I know, Salah
       is not a dirty player. It looked like the keeper was trying to
       possess the ball but failed to hold onto it. He might have done
       better to have punched it out wide but listen to me Monday
       morning quarterbacking.[/quote]Things seem simpler in hindsight.
       . . .   But he may have told himself the same thing in
       hindsight.
       [quote]It looks to me that it was poor keeping by the Radcliffe
       goalie. He might have misjudged the bounce as it got over him.
       Some canny players wait for keepers to come too far off their
       line when the ball is in the opposite half and then have a go
       over them from their end of the field. A wonderful goal from
       just past the half-way line for Roma was scored by Alessandro
       Florenzi this way v my team, FC Barcelona in the Champions
       League last season:[/quote]
       Yes, I bet some  do try to stay alert to see if  the keepers
       stray out a little too far.    It looked to me as if the defense
       was expecting him to pass the ball to the player who was closer
       -- like how many  players were trying to block  an attempted
       future goal by the guy who was closer?   Two others and the
       goalie?
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: paralambano Date: September 15, 2016, 11:04 am
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       Kerry -
       The keeper's team-mate was where he should have been - - trying
       to block Salah whatever he was going to do on the ball. The
       other defender in white was also where he was supposed to be - -
       rushing back to prevent Salah's Roma team-mate from receiving a
       square or cut-back pass. Unfortunately for his opponents,
       neither were able to prevent the goal. The keeper has to protect
       an area 8' X 24' without really knowing what the ball-carrier
       will do. He has to be a quick-thinker and a quicker actor. Their
       defensive players will get an earful from the keeper if he or
       she feels they've been too exposed.
       para .  .  .  .
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: Kerry Date: September 16, 2016, 8:36 am
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       So that's how it was.    Here's a baseball video -- another one
       I couldn't find at You Tube.    The player, Jackie Bradley, Jr.,
       avoids colliding with another player and catches the ball while
       sitting.   Below that is one where he rolls over and when he
       comes up, he had the ball.
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: paralambano Date: September 16, 2016, 11:11 am
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       Kerry -
       [quote]So that's how it was.[/quote]
       Not necessarily. That's how I saw it. Televised soccer is like
       most other televised sports. You don't get to see the whole
       pitch - - just a part of it. I don't know why they don't have a
       small-picture-in-picture portion of the screen which shows the
       whole pitch. I would have it from the goal-ends. One would see
       all the players' positions and movements. One might also see how
       the game is like a breathing organism -  - expanding and
       contracting as the game moves on. It has a "spine" too -  -  the
       alignment from the center-backs through the holding midfielder
       and up on through the attacking one and further on up to the
       striker. One could see the formation the managers chose for the
       game. FCBarcelona usually plays a 4-3-3 meaning four defenders
       along the back, three midfielders, and three players up top.
       They hardly change it since they are so adept at what they do,
       but others do depending on the formation the other team is
       using. As I said, it's somewhat similar to chess -  - finding
       the right movements to break through the opponent's defensive
       system and there's nothing more exhilarating for me when it's
       done cleverly to get a man or two through and an announcer knows
       how to exclaim "He's in!" or "They're in!" meaning that they are
       on the doorstep to scoring.
       [quote]Here's a baseball video[/quote]
       Somehow it's missing.
       para .  .  .  .
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: Kerry Date: September 16, 2016, 4:49 pm
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       [quote author=paralambano link=topic=1121.msg12926#msg12926
       date=1474042265]
       Kerry -
       Not necessarily. That's how I saw it. Televised soccer is like
       most other televised sports. You don't get to see the whole
       pitch - - just a part of it. I don't know why they don't have a
       small-picture-in-picture portion of the screen which shows the
       whole pitch. I would have it from the goal-ends. One would see
       all the players' positions and movements. One might also see how
       the game is like a breathing organism -  - expanding and
       contracting as the game moves on. It has a "spine" too -  -  the
       alignment from the center-backs through the holding midfielder
       and up on through the attacking one and further on up to the
       striker. One could see the formation the managers chose for the
       game. FCBarcelona usually plays a 4-3-3 meaning four defenders
       along the back, three midfielders, and three players up top.
       They hardly change it since they are so adept at what they do,
       but others do depending on the formation the other team is
       using. As I said, it's somewhat similar to chess -  - finding
       the right movements to break through the opponent's defensive
       system and there's nothing more exhilarating for me when it's
       done cleverly to get a man or two through and an announcer knows
       how to exclaim "He's in!" or "They're in!" meaning that they are
       on the doorstep to scoring.[/quote]It might be interesting  to
       see what had happened prior to what was in the video.
       As for points of view, have you heard about how lots of police
       here in the US are wearing body cameras now?    I think it safe
       to predict that somebody someday soon will suggest  body cams in
       sports so you can see the game from the viewpoint of each
       player.   I don't think it would work very well with sports.
       What  do you think of this idea:  You know how some television
       shows in Canada are in both English and French, and you can
       switch back and forth if you like?   Why not do something
       similar with the video part?    Broadcast about four angles
       continuously and let the viewer choose how he wants to watch
       them?    He could watch only one  if that's what he liked; he
       could watch two on a split screen with both being the same size,
       or with one being a small insert inside the other; or he could
       watch three or even four.  He could also record all four!  That
       way if he wanted to go back to look at plays from other angles,
       he could.    Perhaps you could call or email someone in the
       business to suggest this.    You never know, someone might start
       doing it and then it might catch on.
       Years ago when I lived with my sister on N. West St.,  we had a
       dear lady as a neighbor.  She told me one day how she got a
       company to put out colored lingerie.   She was tired of white
       this and white that all the time, so she took the initiative to
       write the company she bought some underwear from to suggest it.
       She got a pleasant letter back thanking her; and in a short
       while, she saw they started selling lingerie in the lovely
       pastels she thought would be nice.   When other companies saw
       how those sold, they also started selling them.
       It might not work.  After my neighbor told me, I heard how the
       CBC was broadcasting some shows in French and English; and I
       wrote letters to all three major networks suggesting they do
       that in the US but with Spanish.   I pointed out that the number
       of people speaking Spanish was rising, and the network which did
       this could pick up more viewers.   I still think it was a good
       idea; but none of them did it.  My guess is they thought the
       expense of translating and dubbing wouldn't have been
       justifiable.    Today, it wouldn't work  since major Hispanic
       networks exist now.
       I do think it might be worth your while to contact some football
       bigwigs.  I'd think they'd love the idea.  The technology is
       already there for the television part since you can buy them
       with split screens.  Right now, the demand seems largely for
       people who want to watch sports on one side of the screen and
       something else on the other -- or perhaps two sports events on
       both sides.
       [quote]Somehow it's missing.[/quote]So it is!   Some sorcerer
       must have bewitched me into thinking I had it in the post when I
       didn't.  ???
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       Re: Sorcery?    
       By: Brad Date: September 16, 2016, 6:42 pm
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       There are people with amazing abilities (I think there is a
       thread here on it).   Its not surprising that some are able to
       do things that don't seem normal, for not all peculiar gifts to
       humans are of the physical nature, but those with those
       abilities have to hide it somewhat due to how they would be made
       into some governments lab rat.
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