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I did not know that!!
By: Justaname Date: April 21, 2016, 4:14 pm
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There is a lot of junk on this page. Ignore the junk and just
read the article.
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3541925/Getting-Mathematician-reveals-fascinating-story-number-ZERO-modern-life-couldn-t-function-without-it.html
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Re: I did not know that!!
By: Justaname Date: May 3, 2016, 2:17 pm
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Just a thought. If the zero was 'invented' later on..according
to this article... how did the bible and early history state
50's 100's or 430 did this or that? How did they get the 50's
grouping or any number?
How can they calculate how many came out of Egypt ?
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Re: I did not know that!!
By: Kerry Date: May 3, 2016, 4:48 pm
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Probably the easiest way to understand what people did is to
look at Roman numerals.
I = 1, V = 5, X = 10 and so on.
I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X . . . .
Try adding 44 and 158 in Roman numerals:
XLIV + CLVIII = ???
Very hard to use. If you think adding 44 and 158 looks hard,
try multiplying them! It's hard without decimal places.
Numbers of people could be computed by arranging them in groups
of ten or fifty. Once you had ten-X groups of ten-X people,
you'd call that a hundred-C . Or they'd collect a small coin
or perhaps a small stone from each person and then arrange the
coins or stones into piles of tens, hundreds, and thousands
later.
In theory a "centurion" had a hundred men under him the way a
"century" has a hundred years or the way a "cent" or "centime"
is one-hundredth of something else. There is a question
about:
Mark 6:39 And he commanded them to make all sit down by
companies upon the green grass.
40 And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
The estimate (v 24) was that there was about five thousand men
there. Men. Why men? Were there no women? And why have them
sit down like that?
Well, we see this happened right after Herod had killed John the
Baptist and Jesus fled in case Herod would come after him next.
John had been very popular, and it's easy to think various rebel
groups wanted to start another rebellion and wanted a leader who
could unite them all. They may have hated each other, the way
some of the rebel groups in Syria now hate each other, the only
thing they have in common is their hatred of Assad. It's
possible that Jesus kept them separated from each other by
getting them to sit down in groups of hundreds and fifties.
Luke mentions only the fifties, saying Jesus told them to do it
that way; but you can easily see that if one group of rebels had
about 150 people in it, they might have allowed 100 men in one
group and 50 in another since they could keep track of the two
sizes of groups, counting each group of 100 as "2" when they
wanted to know how many bands of 50 they had.
Of course, if there were any government spies among the men,
they could have said Jesus was arranging the men by fifties and
hundreds to see if he had enough to lead a rebellion against
Herod. It would look like that.
[hr]
Zero was opposed by Christians at first who saw it as a lie,
like worshiping an idol, pretending nothing was something. They
said zero was invented by the Devil. If it came from Muslims,
it had to be devilish!
From
HTML http://global.oup.com/us/companion.websites/0195128427/
In the Middle Ages, this mathematical knowledge swept across
western Europe via Arab traders. At first it was called
"dangerous Saracen magic" and considered the Devil's work, but
it wasn't long before merchants and bankers saw how handy this
magic was, and used it to develop tools like double-entry
bookkeeping. Zero quickly became an essential part of
increasingly sophisticated equations, and with the invention of
calculus, one could say it was a linchpin of the scientific
revolution. And now even deeper layers of this thing that is
nothing are coming to light: our computers speak only in zeros
and ones, and modern mathematics shows that zero alone can be
made to generate everything.
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Re: I did not know that!!
By: Brad Date: May 3, 2016, 9:08 pm
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[quote author=Justaname link=topic=1073.msg12067#msg12067
date=1462303022]
Just a thought. If the zero was 'invented' later on..according
to this article... how did the bible and early history state
50's 100's or 430 did this or that? How did they get the 50's
grouping or any number?
How can they calculate how many came out of Egypt ?
[/quote]
I guess I assumed they meant zero alone, not multiples of 10.
The unit zero meaning nothing, not positive, not negative, you
cant divide by it, all kinds of problems with it mathematically.
When counting, you start with one. Did it mean no zeros
signifying no multiples of 10?
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Re: I did not know that!!
By: Justaname Date: May 3, 2016, 10:13 pm
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Good posts. And I like the mention of the Roman numerals , and
the thought about the rejection on zero in the very early
days...
Good link , most of it went over my head though!! LOL
Your quote of the mention of the word calculus,gives me the
shivers!!!
I was never very good at math anyway..not any better now I am
older! If I didn't have fingers to count on I'd be lost. :D
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