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       The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: December 21, 2015, 8:10 pm
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       How should we interpret the Torah?   The proper understanding of
       the Torah should teach us something about love.  If our
       understanding of a passage seems hateful to us, we should not
       adopt it as true.  If it teaches something a bout love and helps
       us love God or our fellow man (who is like God, being made in
       His image and likeness), then I believe it is safe to believe we
       are close to the truth how it should be interpreted.  Jesus
       said, and I follow him on this:
       Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men
       should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and
       the prophets.
       There may be many wrong traditions, but there is also a right
       one; and I say Jesus followed the "right tradition" which was
       taught before him by others.   Rabbi Hillel said much the same
       thing but put it in the negative.  There is a story about him
       from which this saying is drawn.   His rival, Rabbi Shammai, is
       also in the story;  and  I say Shammai came from a wrong
       tradition.
       These two great scholars born a generation or two before the
       beginning of the Common Era are usually discussed together and
       contrasted with each other, because they were contemporaries and
       the leaders of two opposing schools of thought (known as
       "houses"). The Talmud records over 300 differences of opinion
       between Beit Hillel (the House of Hillel) and Beit Shammai (the
       House of Shammai). In almost every one of these disputes,
       Hillel's view prevailed.
       Rabbi Hillel was born to a wealthy family in Babylonia, but came
       to Jerusalem without the financial support of his family and
       supported himself as a woodcutter. It is said that he lived in
       such great poverty that he was sometimes unable to pay the
       admission fee to study Torah, and because of him that fee was
       abolished. He was known for his kindness, his gentleness, and
       his concern for humanity. One of his most famous sayings,
       recorded in Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers, a tractate of
       the Mishnah), is "If I am not for myself, then who will be for
       me? And if I am only for myself, then what am I? And if not now,
       when?" The Hillel organization, a network of Jewish college
       student organizations, is named for him.
       Rabbi Shammai was an engineer, known for the strictness of his
       views. The Talmud tells that a gentile came to Shammai saying
       that he would convert to Judaism if Shammai could teach him the
       whole Torah in the time that he could stand on one foot. Shammai
       drove him away with a builder's measuring stick! Hillel, on the
       other hand, converted the gentile by telling him, "That which is
       hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole
       Torah; the rest is commentary. Go and study it."
       Jesus offered another comment on how we should interpret the
       Torah:
       Matthew 22:34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put
       the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
       35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question,
       tempting him, and saying,
       36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
       37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
       all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
       38 This is the first and great commandment.
       39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour
       as thyself.
       40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
       There is no contradiction if our understanding of both passages
       is correct.   One cannot love God if he hates his neighbor.
       It's impossible since our neighbor is like God, having been made
       in His image and likeness.  John also informs us:
       1 John 4:20  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother,
       he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath
       seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
       Thus we see that if we truly love God, we will be inspired to
       obey the Golden Rule -- as given by Jesus in its positive form
       -- or by Hillel in its negative.
       So our task when reading the Torah should be to seek to find the
       love in it.
       I shall begin to post some of the commandments; and members are
       free to add remarks on any of the posted commandments they wish.
       I  will  edit the thread in order to organize it so members'
       remarks on each commandment are together.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: December 21, 2015, 8:15 pm
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       The following list is in the order Maimonides devised, I
       believe.
       1. To know there is a God — Ex 20:2
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       2. Not to even think that there are other gods besides Him - Ex
       20:3
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       3. To know that He is One - Dt  6:4
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       4. To love God - Dt 6:5
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       5. To fear God -  Dt 10:20
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       6.  To sanctify God's name - Lev 22:32-33
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       7. Not to profane God's name -Lev 22:32-33
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       8. Not to destroy objects associated with God's Name - Dt 12:2-4
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       12:2-4
       More will be added to this list as I have time.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: December 21, 2015, 8:21 pm
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       1. To know there is a God
       Exodus 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out
       of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
       Kerry said: We must know about God before we can love Him. Does
       this commandment apply to Gentiles?   It can if they have been
       led out of Sodom and Egypt.  Those who  choose not to leave the
       land of bondage have nothing to attribute to God except
       plagues.  Those who are led out may  not be adequately grateful,
       still craving the leeks and cucumbers of Egypt; but they can
       know about God and strive to be grateful for their deliverance
       despite the things of the flesh they have lost.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: December 21, 2015, 8:25 pm
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       2. Not to even think that there are other gods besides Him
       Exodus 20:3  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
       Kerry said:  This commandment is meant to benefit men, not given
       to benefit God.  Salvation depends on avoiding idolatry since it
       is a form of spiritual madness.   There may be many which are
       called gods; but it is foolish to consider worshiping any as
       God.   Any being which desired to in competition with God is not
       part of the Oneness of God and should not be worshiped.  Such so
       called gods are guided by pride and detest men and women and
       crave their destruction.  To worship them  is to endanger
       ourselves since idolatry leads to self-destruction in any number
       of ways.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: December 21, 2015, 8:28 pm
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       3. To know that He is One
       Deuteronomy 6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
       Kerry said:  The Holy Name occurs twice here.  Elohim is  the
       masculine  noun with a feminine plural ending; but do not let
       that allow you to believe God is more than One.  Is it not
       written that the LORD God is an all consuming fire?  Fire may
       occur in many places; but it is all fire.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: December 23, 2015, 6:35 am
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       4.  To love God.
       Deuteronomy 6:5   And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all
       thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
       Kerry said:  We should not think God gave this commandment for
       selfish purposes.  Obeying this commandment benefits us more
       than it does Him.   While He enjoys our loving Him, He is in
       need of nothing so we ought not think God  gave this commandment
       out of feeling needy as some men might do.    We also should
       learn to love and to embrace the good since it benefits us.  God
       is good, so if we do not love Him,  something is wrong with us.
       
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: August 4, 2016, 12:35 pm
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       5. To fear God.
       Deuteronomy 10:20 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt
       thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: August 4, 2016, 12:37 pm
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       6.  To sanctify God's name.
       Leviticus 22:32 Neither shall ye profane my holy name; but I
       will be hallowed among the children of Israel: I am the LORD
       which hallow you,
       33 That brought you out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: I
       am the LORD.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: August 4, 2016, 12:38 pm
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       7. Not to profane God's name.
       Leviticus 22:32 Neither shall ye profane my holy name; but I
       will be hallowed among the children of Israel: I am the LORD
       which hallow you,
       33 That brought you out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: I
       am the LORD.
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       Re: The 613 Laws of the Torah
       By: Kerry Date: August 4, 2016, 12:40 pm
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       8. Not to destroy objects associated with God's Name.
       Deuteronomy 12:2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places,
       wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods,
       upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every
       green tree:
       3 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars,
       and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the
       graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out
       of that place.
       4 Ye shall not do so unto the Lord your God.
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