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       The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 10, 2015, 7:02 pm
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       Counting the Cost         Luke 14:28–33
       New Wine into Old Wineskins   Matthew 9:17–17   Mark 2:21–22
       Luke 5:37–39
       Parable of the Good Samaritan         Luke 10:25–37
       
       Parable of the Prodigal Son         Luke 15:11–32
       Parable of the strong man   Matthew 12:29–29   Mark 3:27–27
       Luke 11:21–22
       Parable of the Wedding Feast         Luke 14:7–14
       Pharisees and the Publican         Luke 18:10–14
       Rich man and Lazarus         Luke 16:19–31
       The Budding Fig Tree   Matthew 24:32–35   Mark 13:28–31   Luke
       21:29–33
       The Faithful Servant   Matthew 24:42–51   Mark 13:34–37   Luke
       12:35–48
       The Friend at Night         Luke 11:5–8
       The Great Banquet   Matthew 22:1–14      Luke 14:15–24
       
       The Master and Servant         Luke 17:7–10
       The Rich Fool         Luke 12:16–21
       The Sheep and the Goats   Matthew 25:31–46
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       The Two Sons   Matthew 21:28–32
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       The Unjust Judge         Luke 18:1–9
       The Unjust Steward         Luke 16:1–13
       The Wicked Husbandmen   Matthew 21:33–41   Mark 12:1–9   Luke
       20:9–16
       The Wise and the Foolish Builders   Matthew 7:24–27      Luke
       6:46–49
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       #Post#: 10814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 10, 2015, 7:03 pm
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       The Hidden Treasure
       Matthew 13:44  Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto
       treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he
       hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath,
       and buyeth that field.
       The earth means the earth.   "The man" was made out of the
       earth:  H'adam was made out of adamah.  There is something of
       great value hidden within the very atoms of the earth.   Matter
       is dark and dead, you say?   Ah, but all things are possible
       with God; and the Power of God can raise up sons of Abraham from
       the rocks.   And do we not also read:
       Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the
       honour of kings is to search out a matter.
       Do we also not read that God said He would dwell in the
       darkness?
       2 Chronicles 6:1 Then said Solomon, The LORD hath said that he
       would dwell in the thick darkness.
       But God is Light, you say?  Yes, God is Light; but the Divine
       Light can be concealed.  At His Word, the Light that was once
       concealed within the darkness appears.   The Glory of God is
       revealed.   So  we also read that the Glory of God filled the
       Temple.
       7:1 Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came
       down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the
       sacrifices; and the glory of the Lord filled the house.
       Yes, there is something of wonderful value concealed in the dirt
       -- in the "dark nature" of man.   The glorified body God wishes
       us to have is not created later out of nothing but rather the
       corruptible is made incorruptible.
       Isaiah 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew
       not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will
       make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight.
       These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
       1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until
       the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of
       darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and
       then shall every man have praise of God.
       Those who have received the Light and let it shine are praising
       God for all to see.
       1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at
       the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall
       be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
       Note it:  Changed.  One thing is changed into another.  The
       spiritual body is not created out of nothing later.
       1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It
       is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
       Yes, sown in the lowly dirt.
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 10, 2015, 7:03 pm
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       Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure
       hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and
       for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth
       that field.
       45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man,
       seeking goodly pearls:
       46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and
       sold all that he had, and bought it.
       We have dealt with the treasure of the earth.  Here we learn
       that there is also a treasure in the sea.  The soul can be said
       to be made of water; and you can even think of human souls as
       fish in the sea.   There is hidden Glory of God in this sea --
       like there is salt in the ocean which can be made useful by
       boiling off the excess water; but here the symbol given is the
       pearl.
       Now the sea -- the astral plane -- can be a place of the most
       unclean things. "From ghoulies and ghosties. And long-leggedy
       beasties. And things that go bump in the night, Good Lord,
       deliver us!"   But there is something of value if it can be
       changed.
       Consider the oyster, an unclean creature, a bottom feeder that
       consumes who knows what.   Yet it can make pearls.
       Pearls are extraordinary things.  They do not emit light,  and
       they do not reflect it.   Rather they refract light.  Each
       molecule of the pearl acts like a tiny prism, so if white light
       is shone on it, it can send out all the colors of the rainbow.
       The color you see in an area of a pearl depends on the angle of
       refraction.
       Pearls are also made layer upon layer, built up over time; and
       so the soul also perfects itself by collecting what is of value
       out of the astral plane and building up itself.
       When everything of value has been removed from the astral plane,
       it will serve no more purpose.   Thus the sea will be no more as
       John writes in Revelation.
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 10, 2015, 7:05 pm
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       Matthew 13:47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net,
       that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
       48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down,
       and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
       49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come
       forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
       50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be
       wailing and gnashing of teeth.
       This process of casting the net is continual and will continue
       until the end of the age.    It is similar to the parable about
       the pearl in being about retrieving what is of value from the
       astral plane or sea.   At present, the things of value are
       retrieved and preserved and the bad is cast back into the sea to
       be recycled.  Virtues are preserved, vices tossed back into the
       sea to be dissolved again so they can be recycled.
       At the end of the age the process is slightly different.  The
       worthless will not be returned to the sea to be dissolved and
       recycled but rather burned -- a different sort of recycling
       reducing the worthless to dust and ashes.
       Compare this passage to that from Revelation:
       Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it;
       and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and
       they were judged every man according to their works.
       14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is
       the second death.
       15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was
       cast into the lake of fire.
       21:21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first
       heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no
       more sea.
       What is called the upper waters and lower waters in Genesis will
       be one.  There will no further need for "the sea" below to exist
       as it does now with the firmament separating the two.  That
       separation was temporary in order to restrain evil to the region
       below.
       Genesis 1: 6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst
       of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
       7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were
       under the firmament from the waters which were above the
       firmament: and it was so.
       8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the
       morning were the second day.
       The careful reader will notice that God does not say this was
       good.  Nothing good was made on this day.
       9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered
       together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was
       so.
       Here we see the beginning of the drawing of the net.  The net
       drew the earth out of the waters.  This was good; and then on
       day three we see also life in the form of plants emerging from
       the earth.  This was good; and God said it was.
       This sea is the same sea Jesus spoke of here:
       Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones
       that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were
       hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
       It is better for the person so inclined since he would be
       prevented from committing continuing abuses.  Yes, of course it
       is better for the innocent children too; but it is better too
       for the guilty to be thrown  into the sea so their evil can be
       recycled before it becomes a major problem.    The soul is not
       usually destroyed in hell; but if the defects are too many, it
       is a possibility that there will not be enough of it left to
       hold together after all its defects are removed.   And if the
       soul is destroyed,  there will not be a correct  body in the
       resurrection.   There will come a time when the sea is no more,
       and the person can no longer work at perfecting the soul.  Some
       may survive the trial by fire but in an unfortunate condition.
       Revelation 22: 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments,
       that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in
       through the gates into the city.
       15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and
       murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 10, 2015, 7:06 pm
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       Luke 15:3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying,
       4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of
       them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and
       go after that which is lost, until he find it?
       5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders,
       rejoicing.
       6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and
       neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found
       my sheep which was lost.
       7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one
       sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just
       persons, which need no repentance.
       It is easy to see that this parable portrays  Jesus as the Good
       Shepherd who wishes to save sinners.  What may be missed however
       is that the lost sheep is   valued by the shepherd.    It is
       worth a great deal of effort.  It is not a worthless creature.
       We can say that the sheep is saved by the good grace of the
       shepherd; but  we should also see that the shepherd thinks it
       worth the effort.    Thus again we see that in this world where
       things and people look worthless, there is something highly
       valuable.  Appearances are deceiving.     We can call people
       sinners and perhaps they are; but within them lies that image
       and likeness of God, the potential for them to become sons of
       God.
       I think we should also see that the sheep is not entirely to
       blame.  Yes, we can say it was wrong to wander off. It should
       have trusted the shepherd and  stayed close to him; but I wonder
       if that sheep really knew what dangers lay out there in the
       world.
       What we can say is that it knows after being rescued.  It knows
       then that safety lies in staying close to the shepherd and
       taking his instructions which are meant for his good.  The
       shepherd understands some things better than the sheep and is
       able to protect the sheep better than the sheep can protect
       itself.  So there is rejoicing that the lost sheep was found but
       I think there is rejoicing too that the sheep is less likely to
       wander off again and now trusts the shepherd more.
       Note too that this parable hints that there are many sheep, and
       only a few are lost.   In this treacherous world however,  where
       the lost sheep are wandering about lost,  it can look as if all
       the sheep are lost.  Perhaps all the sheep in this world  were
       lost at one time.
       Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned
       every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the
       iniquity of us all.
       The sheep can't rescue themselves; so if they're going to be
       rescued,   the shepherd has to be willing to do some hard things
       himself to find them.
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 10, 2015, 7:08 pm
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       In Luke,  the passage goes on with the parable of the lost coin
       following the one about the lost sheep.  They are connected by
       their theme but slightly different in application.
       Luke 15:8 Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she
       lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house,
       and seek diligently till she find it?
       9 And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her
       neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found
       the piece which I had lost.
       10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the
       angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
       First let's ask why a woman?   Did Jesus make the character a
       woman at random, or does it mean something?  I believe every
       detail in the parables of Jesus mean something.    So why a
       woman?
       This goes back to Eve and how Light left the world.   Jewish
       women still light the Sabbath candles, for they say that light
       left this world through a woman and must return through a woman.
       It goes back to the conflict between the seed of the woman and
       the seed of the woman.  If we missed this lesson in Genesis,
       here Jesus reminds of it again.
       We may be able to see how Mary can be said to have become a
       Light-bearer and helped light a light when she agreed with
       Gabriel, "Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me
       according to thy word."   What was that word?  Why, "Let there
       be Light!"   Jesus was to enter this world as the Light of the
       world.
       There is a type of faith or trust found much more commonly in
       women than in men.  They know what is good and they also know
       they don't have it or they lost it.   They may not know much
       else, but they know that.   In this profound ignorance, they
       accept their ignorance and ask for light.   It is this faith in
       God to send Light when it is needed that  the virtue of the
       Woman is found.
       Consider Mary also at the Cross.   Did she lose faith despite
       how things looked?   I say no.  She had many things hidden in
       her heart as treasures and did not doubt them; and further she
       had faith in God too  that no matter how things looked at
       Calvary, everything would turn out right.   Note that we are
       told it became dark that day.  The sun grew dark.
       The virtue of women is also shown by how they ventured forth on
       the first day of the week while the men did not.  The men were
       sensible and logical.  Jesus was dead, why bother?   But we see
       that Mary Magdalene was rewarded for her foolish but trusting
       kind of faith.    Not only had the physical sun risen, she was
       about to see a new Spiritual Light appearing.
       This principle of the feminine and light can apply to everyone.
       Yes,  some people are men; but we all had mothers and we all
       have the ability to adopt the feminine posture with respect to
       Heaven.   If we are like women stumbling around in the darkness
       looking for something,   we can choose to have the masculine
       Light.  Thus men may be men in this world; but in the church,
       they are part of the Bride of Christ and behave as women do with
       their husbands.
       Note too that the woman can see something is missing.   She has
       lost something of value.    She doesn't try to blame someone
       else for its being missing.   Somehow she must have lost it
       herself and she's hoping she can find it if only she can have
       Light.
       Is this not exactly how the penitent sinner is?  Does he not
       realize he's lost something?  If he can remember his youth as an
       innocent and loving child,  he must wonder where that child
       went?    There was once something very good and fine about him,
       but now it seems to be lost.   Surely he may still have his good
       points and he may even do many good deeds; but he lost
       something.   What happened?
       If he adopts the masculine mind to solve this, he won't be able
       to find the solution.  By masculine mind I mean trying to use
       reason and logic instead of using the feminine mind which craves
       goodness.  Reason and logic won't work.   That poor woman could
       sit and think all day and all night about where her lost coin
       could be and wonder if she lost it or if someone stole it.
       There is no solution to be found by thinking about it; and there
       is no hope of finding it in the darkness without some light.
       It is also worth noting that the woman rejoices when she finds
       the lost coin.  We saw she didn't blame others before it but
       merely thought it might be in her house; and when she finds it,
       she doesn't beat herself over the head blaming herself and being
       unhappy for her previous carelessness.  No,  she's happy she
       found it and she wants to tell her neighbors.
       Why tell her neighbors? What would it be to them?   This shows
       her kind nature.  Perhaps they too have lost things and haven't
       yet found them.  If they can rejoice with her for her success,
       maybe they too will be inspired to look for the things they have
       lost.
       This parable also shows the Jewish attitude towards repentance.
       If someone comes to his senses and sees how he's sinned in the
       past and created problems for himself and for others, this is a
       wonderful thing.  It caused problems in the past which we may
       regret; but the future promises to be much better.  If he really
       understands, he won't repeat the same mistakes.   That is good
       news!
       Indeed the Hebrew for "comfort" and "repent" is the same word.
       The trials and problems of doing wrong in the past can be
       replaced by the benefits of doing right in the future.  The
       sinner can become a saint!   The potential to be a  "saint"
       already is there, hidden within;  and if we want to  encourage
       that good and innocent nature to grow and mature, we can count
       on God to help us.   We can find that lost coin.
       We were all made in the image and likeness of God. It  remains
       that we  admit it and seek to find it if we feel lost it or lost
       bits of it.
       The following passage is true in more than one way, I think:
       Hebrews 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again:
       and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they
       might obtain a better resurrection:
       Yes, yes, we see that most cases of people being raised from the
       dead in the Bible are the result of women asking or wanting it
       to be so.   I think it's also true that our "inner child" is
       brought back to life by God when we are like women who wish to
       see it restored.   We say along with Mary, "Behold the handmaid
       of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word."
       Does anyone doubt it?  How can we received the "engrafted Word"
       in ourselves if we cannot say that?   We see Mary receiving the
       Word within her -- and that is one way the Word appeared.  Can
       we accept  then that we are also expected to receive the Word
       within but in a different manner?
       James 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of
       naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which
       is able to save your souls.
       The first step is to realize something is missing, that
       something of value is missing in us,  and then finding the
       Light.  This I call repentance.    We seek something of value
       that we  lost.   Beating ourselves up over our past mistakes
       won't work.  Feeling guilty won't.   Blaming others won't.    We
       can keep on feeling bad about the past, or we can try to take
       action to make the future better.
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: HOLLAND Date: May 10, 2015, 8:21 pm
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       You have given us a lot to think about, Kerry.  I will have to
       think on these things.
       One thing to speak of, though, about parables, especially those
       of Jesus:  Is it not the case that we interpret the parables,
       but rather, find that the parables interpret us, calling the
       person hearing them into judgement?  If this is so, then there
       cannot be a detached hearing of the parables, and that the
       parables will encompass meaning that stretches far beyond what a
       single listener may have of them.
       The existential plentitude of their meaning would extend beyond
       the 'conventional' meanings that have been put in scripture to
       explain them, to guard their meaning on behalf of the church in
       the time that the Gospels were written.  What you have stated
       and the line of inquiry you have started is a natural result and
       use of the parables.  It would be the Spirit that would
       illuminate the meaning of what you are saying.  How the Spirit
       relates to the imagery of light and of gender seems important in
       your inquiry.
       Peace be with you!
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 10, 2015, 9:18 pm
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       [quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1017.msg10821#msg10821
       date=1431307281]
       You have given us a lot to think about, Kerry.  I will have to
       think on these things.
       One thing to speak of, though, about parables, especially those
       of Jesus:  Is it not the case that we interpret the parables,
       but rather, find that the parables interpret us, calling the
       person hearing them into judgement?  If this is so, then there
       cannot be a detached hearing of the parables, and that the
       parables will encompass meaning that stretches far beyond what a
       single listener may have of them.  [/quote]
       I would replace  the word "judgment" with "participation."
       While perhaps I can say a lot about them, the real meaning will
       unfold for each person as he absorbs the imagery, ponders it and
       then perhaps experiences it.
       [quote]The existential plentitude of their meaning would extend
       beyond the 'conventional' meanings that have been put in
       scripture to explain them, to guard their meaning on behalf of
       the church in the time that the Gospels were written.  What you
       have stated and the line of inquiry you have started is a
       natural result and use of the parables.  It would be the Spirit
       that would illuminate the meaning of what you are saying.  How
       the Spirit relates to the imagery of light and of gender seems
       important in your inquiry.[/quote]
       Yes.
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: HOLLAND Date: May 12, 2015, 7:02 am
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       I would agree, Kerry, that the listener participates in a
       parable in the act of seeking to encompass its meaning.  I would
       think judgement would exist because there is the demand to
       understand its meaning, and if there is a failure to understand,
       that failure may have spiritual consequences.
       In a sense, when we listen to an interpretation of a parable,
       such as the ones that you are offering, we cannot be, as readers
       of your thread, idle observers.  We are called into question as
       to the meaning of the parables.  We have to make a stand in
       respect to them.  We must grow or spiritual perish.
       We bring a content of meaning of who we are when we confront the
       parables, but we find that the parables disclose who we are and
       so we must seek to discover that spiritual meaning of the
       particular moment we are in.  The thread offers that particular
       moment.  At this point, I seek to understand your meaning to
       respond.
       Peace be with you!
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       Re: The Parables of Jesus
       By: Kerry Date: May 12, 2015, 8:56 am
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       [quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1017.msg10829#msg10829
       date=1431432170]
       I would agree, Kerry, that the listener participates in a
       parable in the act of seeking to encompass its meaning.  I would
       think judgement would exist because there is the demand to
       understand its meaning, and if there is a failure to understand,
       that failure may have spiritual consequences.  [/quote]
       Understanding a truth and then rejecting it may have more
       serious consequences than failing to understand.  The person who
       lacks understanding may be excused in large part since his
       failings are sins of ignorance.   It is a much graver thing to
       understand and then reject the truth.
       I believe Jesus taught in parables to protect some people from
       themselves.  If their hearts were not ready to receive, they
       would reject.  They would be worse off than before.   They might
       come to the Light temporarily but then fall back.  One might
       even say they were "saved" but consequently rejected their
       salvation to return to the darkness.
       Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why
       speakest thou unto them in parables?
       11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you
       to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it
       is not given.
       12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have
       more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken
       away even that he hath.
       13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing
       see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
       14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith,
       By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing
       ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
       15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are
       dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any
       time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
       and should understand with their heart, and should be converted,
       and I should heal them.
       The text does not give his reason for not wanting people to
       understand and for his not wanting to heal them; but surely it
       is because if they knew the truth and were healed only to return
       to the darkness, their state would be far worse than before.
       I think Jesus was using parables to teach people who were ready
       to understand while protecting others from judgment had they
       understood.   Spiritual blindness and deafness can be good
       things.
       Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once
       enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made
       partakers of the Holy Ghost,
       5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the
       world to come,
       6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;
       seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put
       him to an open shame.
       We should not be dismayed if we conclude, after surveying the
       confusion within Christianity, that all is lost.  I don't think
       so.  I think God is working with people.  Some people may be
       ready for some truths and not for others; while others are ready
       for other truths.
       [quote]In a sense, when we listen to an interpretation of a
       parable, such as the ones that you are offering, we cannot be,
       as readers of your thread, idle observers.  We are called into
       question as to the meaning of the parables.  We have to make a
       stand in respect to them.  We must grow or spiritual
       perish.[/quote]
       My hope is to get people's mind to open up -- not to adopt my
       words in human language as  true just because I say them, but to
       open the mind to Heaven to inquire.     I am a man with human
       failings and a man using human speech which are not adequate;
       and I do not place complete confidence that I have all the truth
       myself.  I may even say things which contain errors.
       The Gospel is said to have preached by men, and we see them
       doing that using human words;  but I say the True Gospel is
       preached by the mighty angel in Heaven.  The words of the man
       preaching below are saying, "Look up, look up, can you hear the
       Heavenly Voice?"    The person not ready to receive the Gospel
       will think the man preaching it mad.  He will not benefit from
       it; but then again, he won't fall into the worst judgment of
       rejecting it.   The judgment he faces is minor, I think; but
       records are kept of such things.
       [quote]We bring a content of meaning of who we are when we
       confront the parables, but we find that the parables disclose
       who we are and so we must seek to discover that spiritual
       meaning of the particular moment we are in.  The thread offers
       that particular moment.  At this point, I seek to understand
       your meaning to respond.[/quote]
       I will try to show  that different parables apply to different
       stages in spiritual growth.     Thus I believe some parables
       will fall flat with some people but others won't.   I think how
       much someone benefits will depend on where he is and what he is
       ready for.
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