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Equal With God
By: Soulman Date: June 1, 2020, 6:07 am
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Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be
equal with God: - Philippians 2:6.
Jesus never thought it robbery to be equal with God. He was God,
he was God the son or God in son form. So Jesus Christ is the
son of God in a human form, or his humanity gave God his earth
suit. He was still in the form of God because he was God in a
body. What are believers? They are Christ in a human form, you
have to watch how you say that because people run with it. You
are not Jesus Christ, but just as Christ thought it not robbery
to be equal with God so should the believer understand their
form. You want to see what a Christ-person looks like, they look
just like you with Christ in them that is what makes them a
Christ-person.
So you are Christ in a human form when you walk around and live
your life. You have the Spirit of Christ in you and he manifests
as you are or your creation, the way he created you. That is
powerful understanding for those that can grasp the great plan
and purpose of God, he created you as you are, not another like
you so he could express himself as your creation wow. You need a
gospel to let you know who you are, people are confused in their
religion because it is still trying to get them not to sin like
they are a 2 year old child. That is a far cry from the depth of
the Holyspirit teaching you Christ, a Christ-person has bigger
fish to fry so to speak than worry about every step in life and
if it's God's will.
Remember the days when you may be going to do something and you
didn't know if it was God's will. Maybe you got a flat or ran
out of gas, so that wasn't God's will you thought. So you went
another direction and something happened so that wasn't God's
will. It was endless always trying to do the will of God.
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the
renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and
acceptable, and perfect, will of God. - Romans 12:2.
When the will of God has been written before our eyes, the
renewing of the mind to see Christ as life. The will of God is
for humanity to understand his plan and purpose for everything
in creation and life. It is all found in the little words in
Christ and living as a Christ-person with knowledge. Bless you.
#Post#: 14627--------------------------------------------------
Re: Equal With God
By: Pia Date: June 2, 2020, 11:21 pm
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[quote author=Soulman link=topic=949.msg14613#msg14613
date=1591009654]
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be
equal with God: - Philippians 2:6.
Jesus never thought it robbery to be equal with God. He was God,
he was God the son or God in son form. So Jesus Christ is the
son of God in a human form, or his humanity gave God his earth
suit. He was still in the form of God because he was God in a
body. What are believers? They are Christ in a human form, you
have to watch how you say that because people run with it. You
are not Jesus Christ, but just as Christ thought it not robbery
to be equal with God so should the believer understand their
form. You want to see what a Christ-person looks like, they look
just like you with Christ in them that is what makes them a
Christ-person.
So you are Christ in a human form when you walk around and live
your life. You have the Spirit of Christ in you and he manifests
as you are or your creation, the way he created you. That is
powerful understanding for those that can grasp the great plan
and purpose of God, he created you as you are, not another like
you so he could express himself as your creation wow. You need a
gospel to let you know who you are, people are confused in their
religion because it is still trying to get them not to sin like
they are a 2 year old child. That is a far cry from the depth of
the Holyspirit teaching you Christ, a Christ-person has bigger
fish to fry so to speak than worry about every step in life and
if it's God's will.
Remember the days when you may be going to do something and you
didn't know if it was God's will. Maybe you got a flat or ran
out of gas, so that wasn't God's will you thought. So you went
another direction and something happened so that wasn't God's
will. It was endless always trying to do the will of God.
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the
renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and
acceptable, and perfect, will of God. - Romans 12:2.
When the will of God has been written before our eyes, the
renewing of the mind to see Christ as life. The will of God is
for humanity to understand his plan and purpose for everything
in creation and life. It is all found in the little words in
Christ and living as a Christ-person with knowledge. Bless you.
[/quote]....Hello there........I have heard a few
interpretations of Phil 2:6 over the years , by a couple of
different Pastors, and boy oh boy.......The things they can
'bend' the writings of the Bible into, are just
astonishing......It is basically explaining that Jesus didn't
think it something to ' brag ' about, being made equal to God,
but chose to make Himself of no reputation a.s.o.
It does however also raise an important point, in as much as it
describes Jesus as having come in the FORM of God ( God is
spirit ), and then being found in APPEARANCE , as a man ( Phil.
2:6-8 ).
I do believe that often we forget, that in the beginning God
created humans ' in His image, according to His likeness ' and
THEN the human race fell away from Him............Religion
always describes God as if He is in the image and likeness of
fallen man, filled with anger, rage, jealousies and
such..........Surely, we must be able to comprehend, that it is
just NOT so......
Gods fullness is unknowable, for us 'mere' humans, but Jesus as
well as a few of Gods Prophets, did clue us into a few things
about God.......
First and foremost is that God IS Spirit and God IS
Love.......When God speaks of ' image and likeness ', He is NOT
describing Himself as an old man with long white hair and a long
white beard and a long white flowing robe, much like we would
expect someone like Moses to look like......Rather, that we were
created as spirits and created out of and as LOVE , something we
surely do not know the depth of at all......
There is a description of Jesus being transfigured on the top of
a mountain, in front of Peter and John,where Jesus meets up with
the glorified versions of Moses and Elijah, and He then has a
'chat' with them............Why did no one ever point out, that
Jesus DID NOT speak face to face with a figure of God, but of
other men.
So often, when I have studied a bit about various religions and
how they came about and what they believe about God and Jesus, I
can become so stunned at what people have accepted as being God
or being things DONE by God, which so very clearly is in
conflict of the 'person ' Jesus described as Our Father.
Our Father may be aware of evil existing, but He surely NEVER
partook of it !....Our Father is Love, not hate, not anger and
most of all NOT DEMANDING.........Our enemy is the one who
behaves like that, and then on top has managed to get humans to
believe that it is God......
When we do read the Bible, let us try to remember at every verse
that God is Love, so if what you are reading cannot go hand in
glove with Love.........then there is something not right, with
it.
We must also remember that no matter how good the writers were,
whether prophet or disciple, they were still also
human..........Just like we don't find ourselves 100% perfected
in the blink of an eye, when we first come to Jesus.......
neither did they, so we must not just assume, that every single
word that was written down, and then passed on and translated
over and over again, all by men......is somehow 100% perfect, as
if God Himself is speaking those words to us right now.
Paul is one good example, because of the way he had been
raised....he was, as far as we're told in the Bible, the only
one who was 'learned'......He could read and write, which also
meant, that he had been able to study all the old scriptures,
and he would have had a very strict doctrine all of his
life.......there is no way on earth, that every part of him and
every thought he had, was somehow 100% perfect and altered at
the receiving of Jesus on the road to Damascus...........So, we
should just take a little care when we read those
things....Certainly always check in with The Lord about what our
understanding is on a subject, and for Him to please correct us,
through His glorious Holy Spirit, if we've ended up with the
wrong end of the stick, so to speak.
I will never stop being thankful to Him for making me completely
aware of Him, years before reading a Bible or going to any
church, AND that He has kept it up all these years, even when I
have been in a spin, because of conflicting things between what
He said and what a pastor or other believer has said to
me...........He has been so patient throughout all my temper
tantrums and confusions over this time.....I do know one thing
for absolute sure.......If He had NOT made me aware of His
reality and I had just decided to join a church group, and those
things had happened, I would have totally walked away........I
feel certain that they would have convinced me, that God wasn't
real .....That is what I find the single most scary thing about
the power of religions !
In our 'own' selves , in our flesh, we shall NEVER be able to be
equal with God, as in just like Him........But this is exactly
what Jesus came and did, as a ' Son of Man ', and once He was
resurrected........A man was able to sit on a throne next to
God.......A man lifted up as Gods finest creation and able to
sit in the presence of God.........Granted, it did take God
Himself sending His Word, to become flesh, inside an actual
human vessel, a human earth suit, for His Word to dwell in,
while here on earth..... Becoming the Son of God ( once He was
accepted by God, as His Son, in the river Jordan ) is obviously
also important, in as much, as we can only become full blown
children of God, because Jesus became the firstborn of Gods New
Creation and one day, He will gather His faithful believers,
whom He calls His Bride, and the two shall become One.....thus
granting us access into The Kingdom of Heaven itself, by
becoming His off spring, in a sense.......Hahaha, some of these
things are quite amazing, the way He has gone about the whole
thing, or rather, the many things......
God bless you....
#Post#: 14633--------------------------------------------------
Re: Equal With God
By: Soulman Date: June 3, 2020, 6:04 am
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[quote author=Pia link=topic=949.msg14627#msg14627
date=1591158076]
....Hello there........I have heard a few interpretations of
Phil 2:6 over the years , by a couple of different Pastors, and
boy oh boy.......The things they can 'bend' the writings of the
Bible into, are just astonishing......It is basically explaining
that Jesus didn't think it something to ' brag ' about, being
made equal to God, but chose to make Himself of no reputation
a.s.o.
It does however also raise an important point, in as much as it
describes Jesus as having come in the FORM of God ( God is
spirit ), and then being found in APPEARANCE , as a man ( Phil.
2:6-8 ).
I do believe that often we forget, that in the beginning God
created humans ' in His image, according to His likeness ' and
THEN the human race fell away from Him............Religion
always describes God as if He is in the image and likeness of
fallen man, filled with anger, rage, jealousies and
such..........Surely, we must be able to comprehend, that it is
just NOT so......
Gods fullness is unknowable, for us 'mere' humans, but Jesus as
well as a few of Gods Prophets, did clue us into a few things
about God.......
First and foremost is that God IS Spirit and God IS
Love.......When God speaks of ' image and likeness ', He is NOT
describing Himself as an old man with long white hair and a long
white beard and a long white flowing robe, much like we would
expect someone like Moses to look like......Rather, that we were
created as spirits and created out of and as LOVE , something we
surely do not know the depth of at all......
There is a description of Jesus being transfigured on the top of
a mountain, in front of Peter and John,where Jesus meets up with
the glorified versions of Moses and Elijah, and He then has a
'chat' with them............Why did no one ever point out, that
Jesus DID NOT speak face to face with a figure of God, but of
other men.
So often, when I have studied a bit about various religions and
how they came about and what they believe about God and Jesus, I
can become so stunned at what people have accepted as being God
or being things DONE by God, which so very clearly is in
conflict of the 'person ' Jesus described as Our Father.
Our Father may be aware of evil existing, but He surely NEVER
partook of it !....Our Father is Love, not hate, not anger and
most of all NOT DEMANDING.........Our enemy is the one who
behaves like that, and then on top has managed to get humans to
believe that it is God......
When we do read the Bible, let us try to remember at every verse
that God is Love, so if what you are reading cannot go hand in
glove with Love.........then there is something not right, with
it.
We must also remember that no matter how good the writers were,
whether prophet or disciple, they were still also
human..........Just like we don't find ourselves 100% perfected
in the blink of an eye, when we first come to Jesus.......
neither did they, so we must not just assume, that every single
word that was written down, and then passed on and translated
over and over again, all by men......is somehow 100% perfect, as
if God Himself is speaking those words to us right now.
Paul is one good example, because of the way he had been
raised....he was, as far as we're told in the Bible, the only
one who was 'learned'......He could read and write, which also
meant, that he had been able to study all the old scriptures,
and he would have had a very strict doctrine all of his
life.......there is no way on earth, that every part of him and
every thought he had, was somehow 100% perfect and altered at
the receiving of Jesus on the road to Damascus...........So, we
should just take a little care when we read those
things....Certainly always check in with The Lord about what our
understanding is on a subject, and for Him to please correct us,
through His glorious Holy Spirit, if we've ended up with the
wrong end of the stick, so to speak.
I will never stop being thankful to Him for making me completely
aware of Him, years before reading a Bible or going to any
church, AND that He has kept it up all these years, even when I
have been in a spin, because of conflicting things between what
He said and what a pastor or other believer has said to
me...........He has been so patient throughout all my temper
tantrums and confusions over this time.....I do know one thing
for absolute sure.......If He had NOT made me aware of His
reality and I had just decided to join a church group, and those
things had happened, I would have totally walked away........I
feel certain that they would have convinced me, that God wasn't
real .....That is what I find the single most scary thing about
the power of religions !
In our 'own' selves , in our flesh, we shall NEVER be able to be
equal with God, as in just like Him........But this is exactly
what Jesus came and did, as a ' Son of Man ', and once He was
resurrected........A man was able to sit on a throne next to
God.......A man lifted up as Gods finest creation and able to
sit in the presence of God.........Granted, it did take God
Himself sending His Word, to become flesh, inside an actual
human vessel, a human earth suit, for His Word to dwell in,
while here on earth..... Becoming the Son of God ( once He was
accepted by God, as His Son, in the river Jordan ) is obviously
also important, in as much, as we can only become full blown
children of God, because Jesus became the firstborn of Gods New
Creation and one day, He will gather His faithful believers,
whom He calls His Bride, and the two shall become One.....thus
granting us access into The Kingdom of Heaven itself, by
becoming His off spring, in a sense.......Hahaha, some of these
things are quite amazing, the way He has gone about the whole
thing, or rather, the many things......
God bless you....
[/quote]
Pia for not being to computer savvy as you say, you are doing a
pretty good job on here, well written. Thank you for commenting
and yes I have heard some strange ideas on what Jesus was on
earth. I'm sure they probably think the same thing about me and
my writing haha. The written word is so powerful to give us
information about all our father has done and is doing in
believers. You come across more and more believers that have
some kind of issue with the scriptures. They are very plain and
easy to read if a person wants the understanding that is in
them, thanks again.
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