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       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Ivor Date: October 7, 2014, 10:06 am
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       wonderful post Helen
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       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: guest6 Date: October 7, 2014, 11:24 am
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       Mike,
       I don't think you're way "out of step". Maybe with orthodoxy,
       but from what I hear and read questions are being raised about
       most of what you've listed.  Theologians in my stream of
       churches are certainly reviewing the "born again" idea.  How a
       person is defined as Christian is different now than in the
       primitive church and even up to the reformation.  Most of what I
       hear has lots related to church history which I have very little
       knowledge of, so the discussion tends to go over my head.
       Sola Scriptura is common, but not all pervasive. For example the
       Methodist have their Wesleyan Quadrilateral, which I think I
       lean towards.
       Constantine bringing Christianity into mainstream society had a
       huge and lasting effect.  Some of it can be seen in modern
       understandings of healing.
       I don't hear any discussion about your point 5 within my
       charismatic stream of churches, though. Not surprisingly.
       Maybe you should get yourself onto a theology degree course
       where discussion of this sort of thing would be welcomed and
       even encouraged.
       Blessings,
       Mike HH
       #Post#: 1471--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Mike Date: October 7, 2014, 8:56 pm
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       BTW, I passed my scientific 'Driveability' test.
       Now lets hope the Hospital accepts that it overrules their
       'hunch' and removes their driving prohibition.
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       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Helen Date: October 7, 2014, 9:38 pm
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       Oh, very good new indeed...that should have "made you day" for
       you.  8)
       Is it tomorrow that the electrician comes...or is it the
       plumber...I forget?
       blessings...H
       #Post#: 1484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Mike Date: October 8, 2014, 2:32 am
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       Plumber has been and gone. Thursday Carpenter helps remove
       remaining old units. Friday the Electrician joins in with a few
       mods. Tuesday the Vinyl flooring gets laid. Then we start
       erecting the new units.
       Today Chris leaves for Lake Como in Italy.
       #Post#: 1489--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Helen Date: October 8, 2014, 9:39 am
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       Trusting that everything goes smoothly and that the trades all
       come when due.We will be looking for photo's afterward.
       #Post#: 1492--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: James Date: October 8, 2014, 10:01 am
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       So what are you going to do with one redundant trike, convert it
       into a rocking chair for Chris when she arrives home?
       #Post#: 1497--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Pat Date: October 8, 2014, 10:29 am
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       Talking of trikes James, I saw one this afternoon which was like
       a tandom - the man at the front driving it and his wife at the
       back.
       #Post#: 1540--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Dave Date: October 9, 2014, 11:50 pm
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       Mike,I had one of my off days,off the site,off the dog,off the
       hockey team,off the people never answer question,off who believe
       or don't believe the b word,off quotes ,off inclinations,so I
       asked Helen if she thought we REALLY had to love everyone,"I
       could ask her because she was the only one I wasn't off"so here
       it is 10 bells and I'm on the site,Mike I read the 6 thesis
       points that you nailed to the site,at least Martin Luther had a
       revelation that man is not saved by works but by faith and if
       any one wants to pick a stone and chuck it him,be my guest,your
       6 points made me think of the raising of
       Lazarus,Mike,Mike,you're cumbered about with to much
       intellectual knowledge,I think God has way more than 6 issues
       with the "church" but back to Lazarus,Martha has issues with
       Jesus about how he was running the show,she says your 4 days
       late,he says no right on time,see his way was Gods way not her
       way,He may be 2000years late,according to some,no HE is always
       on time,cos HE does it Gods way,not according to wrongs or the
       rights,HE says I will build my church,same as he built Eve for
       Adam,back to Lazarus,He says Mary hath chosen the better
       part,she had quite working,she was trying to work out WHY he was
       4 days late,all Martha saw was, what was wrong,HE was late,Mary
       wasn't helping,Lazarus was dead,she was probably having an off
       day,still working on the loving everybody bit,always slightly
       amused me,the I love you brother,when they don't even know
       you//////oh in Jesus of course!!!! :)
       #Post#: 1543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mike's Personal Stuff.
       By: Mike Date: October 10, 2014, 5:09 am
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       Hi Dave, as you've noted I'm on a sort of 'off day' (have been
       for about 45 years)......Well, at least an 'out of step' day.
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