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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: mark Date: March 26, 2020, 10:05 am
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[quote author=Willie T link=topic=855.msg13505#msg13505
date=1585169661]
I didn't say this in the OP, since I already know many people
won't really understand the initial instructions given, up
front, but I suspect there will not be many people who can do
this sort of thing.
[/quote]
Hi Willie,
I read through about like HIH. I don't know why I would want to
do this. It seems meaningless to me.
It's like hypotheticals, they aren't real. So I find no
usefulness persuing them. What if Jesus had sinned? There's a
What if . . . But not real.
What if I choose to believe there was no Creator?
What do you have in mind with this?
Much love!
#Post#: 13535--------------------------------------------------
Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: mark Date: March 26, 2020, 10:09 am
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OK, I get it.
"One of the things I am convinced of is that the more beliefs
you have that are relatively unconscious, that are implicit,
that tend to operate automatically, the more enslaved you are."
If you believe things that aren't true, you will act in ways
that are not appropriate.
I think the best thing we can do for ourselves is to keep in the
Word and in prayer, and in this way God will order our minds
correctly.
Much love!
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: bbyrd009 Date: March 26, 2020, 10:18 am
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[quote author=mark link=topic=855.msg13535#msg13535
date=1585235352]
OK, I get it.
"One of the things I am convinced of is that the more beliefs
you have that are relatively unconscious, that are implicit,
that tend to operate automatically, the more enslaved you are."
If you believe things that aren't true, you will act in ways
that are not appropriate.
I think the best thing we can do for ourselves is to keep in the
Word and in prayer, and in this way God will order our minds
correctly.
Much love!
[/quote]"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible"
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: Willie T Date: March 26, 2020, 11:54 am
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[quote author=mark link=topic=855.msg13534#msg13534
date=1585235113]
Hi Willie,
I read through about like HIH. I don't know why I would want to
do this. It seems meaningless to me.
It's like hypotheticals, they aren't real. So I find no
usefulness persuing them. What if Jesus had sinned? There's a
What if . . . But not real.
What if I choose to believe there was no Creator?
What do you have in mind with this?
Much love!
[/quote]I thought I already expressed it. I think we all should
know as much as we can about the things we say we believe,
rather than following things that may have just become "habits."
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: mark Date: March 26, 2020, 12:06 pm
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[quote author=bbyrd009 link=topic=855.msg13537#msg13537
date=1585235883]
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible"
[/quote]
How many times have I heard that?
It's like saying the best cure for liberty is reading the
Declaration of Independance.
Or the best cure for eating is reading a cookbook.
What does that even mean?
Oh, only that . . . "the Christians have got it all wrong, I
know that, and you just need read the Bible and you'll be cured
of all your nonsense 'Christianity'." Right?
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: mark Date: March 26, 2020, 12:08 pm
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[quote author=Willie T link=topic=855.msg13543#msg13543
date=1585241667]
I thought I already expressed it. I think we all should know as
much as we can about the things we say we believe, rather than
following things that may have just become "habits.".
[/quote]
Very much agreed!
Much love!
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: Willie T Date: March 26, 2020, 12:31 pm
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Is there anyone here who is content to be unable to rationally
finish this sentence:
"I believe __([size=12pt]Any belief you claim to have.)____
because...."[/size] (Remember, I said, RATIONALLY.)
If you ARE content not to be able to do that, it means you
probably don't really know WHY you believe that statement you
just made.
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: mark Date: March 26, 2020, 1:26 pm
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[quote author=Willie T link=topic=855.msg13547#msg13547
date=1585243886]
Is there anyone here who is content to be unable to rationally
finish this sentence:
"I believe __([size=12pt]Any belief you claim to have.)____
because...."[/size] (Remember, I said, RATIONALLY.)
If you ARE content not to be able to do that, it means you
probably don't really know WHY you believe that statement you
just made.
[/quote]
Peter tells us to be ready with a reason for our faith. I think
that means answering why we believe what we do.
Much love!
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: Ivor Date: March 26, 2020, 2:07 pm
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Sorry I couldn't finish it. It felt like a contract declaration
and having experienced the occult the sting is often in the
tail.
Tarot cards should not be bought from a shop or online to work
they must come from someone with the gift and you must pay for
them - the sting in the tail after all the waffle is that when
you hand the money over and take the cards with the gifting you
have contracted before the creatures of heaven and those present
on earth and the true cost is horrendous
I know that you would never purposely get us contracted anywhere
but I cannot declare those untruths as truth because they seem
to be leading somewhere. I hope you get what you want from
others but sorry I'm out
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Re: A ""Belief Experiment (If you think you can handle
it)
By: Willie T Date: March 26, 2020, 2:18 pm
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[quote author=Ivor link=topic=855.msg13551#msg13551
date=1585249626]
Sorry I couldn't finish it. It felt like a contract declaration
and having experienced the occult the sting is often in the
tail.
Tarot cards should not be bought from a shop or online to work
they must come from someone with the gift and you must pay for
them - the sting in the tail after all the waffle is that when
you hand the money over and take the cards with the gifting you
have contracted before the creatures of heaven and those present
on earth and the true cost is horrendous
I know that you would never purposely get us contracted anywhere
but I cannot declare those untruths as truth because they seem
to be leading somewhere. I hope you get what you want from
others but sorry I'm out
[/quote]The point of the classroom exercise was exactly THAT.
We should NOT be able to declaratively claim belief in something
we don't believe is true.
But, at the same time, we should NOT declare belief in something
we can give no real reason for believing in as "truth."
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