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       < To All Members  Here >
       By: Helen Date: February 25, 2020, 3:13 pm
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       Just a catch-up on here as to-  ‘where I am”.
       Any feedback welcome…always.
       Someone wrote to me and this is the response I sent back to
       them.
       Maybe it would be edifying to post it here too, as an FYI
       'filling in the gaps'.
       I have change a word here and there, but this is pretty much
       ‘as is’ my email.
       =============
       Even before you wrote I had been musing (hopefully in the
       Lord) about the LW situation.
       Here are my thoughts.
       1) I didn’t sign up for having to ‘baby the site’ along.
       2) I thought that all the cherry picked members were self
       moderating mature Christians. (and I knew the high risk of being
       banned from CB in doing so, which has happened!)
       
       3) I realized a few days ago, after I had tried to ‘put out
       fires’ by deleting posts ...that I was now doing what I never
       intended to do….which was ‘babying the site ‘  and I realized
       that I was trying to protect it before other members saw those
       posts.  (especially from new members and those who still log on
       , but already no longer post.  Which, by me babying the site,
       is NOT what I had ever intended to do!
       I’m sorry now that I deleted any posts.  :'(
       I realized after doing so, that I was “putting my hand” to the
       Site, in an effort to ‘make it different and more friendly‘ than
       CB.
       I do not believe that I was pleasing to the Lord  , but it was
       'just me’ trying to make a difference between the two Sites…as
       it was me just trying to white wash.
       Difference comes from the heart , if the hearts are not seeking
       that , I sure can't bring it to pass.
       From now on, I intend to keep my hands off ...and allow the Site
       to be what it will be.
       Right now I somehow don’t feel that it will last very long.
       It may just vanish in a puff ...as the members dwindle away,
       back to CB.
       Well at least we were all willing, and we gave it a try.
       [emoji4]
       It is out of our hands now-God and the Membership here will
       either make something of it , or not.
       So what I am probably not saying well, is that for myself, I am
       not going to  ‘try’ to bring forth anything.  God knows.
       Any ‘trying’ on my part would just be my flesh at work , not
       Gods hand.
       The hearts are where it is at,  and it is the proof of where the
       real desires lays.
       God Bless one and all.
       In love  Helen x
       #Post#: 11427--------------------------------------------------
       Re: < To All Members  Here >
       By: Willie T Date: February 25, 2020, 3:37 pm
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       Since I am one of the primary players in all of this, I think I
       need to speak up.
       First of all, it was my sensitivity that caused most of the
       upheaval.  But, I guess I will always have problems in that
       area.  Maybe the only thing I can offer is that any perceived
       slights need to be handled strictly by PM or e-mail.
       I'll leave it at that.
       #Post#: 11428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: < To All Members  Here >
       By: guest36 Date: February 25, 2020, 3:40 pm
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       Let's hope we don't have to rename [font=verdana]Rockets away as
       we relaunch 'Living Water
  HTML http://livingwater.createaforum.com/rockets-away-as-we-relaunch-the-living-water-forum/'[/font]'
  HTML http://livingwater.createaforum.com/rockets-away-as-we-relaunch-the-living-water-forum/<br
       />to read as:-
       [font=verdana]Rockets return to base as we delaunch 'Living
       Water'
  HTML http://livingwater.createaforum.com/rockets-away-as-we-relaunch-the-living-water-forum/[/font]<br
       /> :'(
       #Post#: 11429--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &lt; To All Members  Here &gt;
       By: guest55 Date: February 25, 2020, 3:49 pm
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       Sheesh
       #Post#: 11430--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &lt; To All Members  Here &gt;
       By: Willie T Date: February 25, 2020, 3:55 pm
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       [quote author=Reba link=topic=759.msg11429#msg11429
       date=1582667395]
       Sheesh
       [/quote]Would that have a further meaning you might care to
       share?  LOL
       #Post#: 11432--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &lt; To All Members  Here &gt;
       By: guest55 Date: February 25, 2020, 4:32 pm
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       [quote author=Willie T link=topic=759.msg11430#msg11430
       date=1582667757]
       Would that have a further meaning you might care to share?  LOL
       [/quote] Not a whole lot more i just wish for a simple Christian
       place to talk with other Christians . . Having been in sorta the
       same place Helen is  I am sorry to hear her brokenness.
       #Post#: 11433--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &lt; To All Members  Here &gt;
       By: Episkopay Date: February 25, 2020, 5:01 pm
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=759.msg11424#msg11424
       date=1582665236]
       Just a catch-up on here as to-  ‘where I am”.
       Any feedback welcome…always.
       Someone wrote to me and this is the response I sent back to
       them.
       Maybe it would be edifying to post it here too, as an FYI
       'filling in the gaps'.
       I have change a word here and there, but this is pretty much
       ‘as is’ my email.
       =============
       Even before you wrote I had been musing (hopefully in the
       Lord) about the LW situation.
       Here are my thoughts.
       1) I didn’t sign up for having to ‘baby the site’ along.
       2) I thought that all the cherry picked members were self
       moderating mature Christians. (and I knew the high risk of being
       banned from CB in doing so, which has happened!)
       
       3) I realized a few days ago, after I had tried to ‘put out
       fires’ by deleting posts ...that I was now doing what I never
       intended to do….which was ‘babying the site ‘  and I realized
       that I was trying to protect it before other members saw those
       posts.  (especially from new members and those who still log on
       , but already no longer post.  Which, by me babying the site,
       is NOT what I had ever intended to do!
       I’m sorry now that I deleted any posts.  :'(
       I realized after doing so, that I was “putting my hand” to the
       Site, in an effort to ‘make it different and more friendly‘ than
       CB.
       I do not believe that I was pleasing to the Lord  , but it was
       'just me’ trying to make a difference between the two Sites…as
       it was me just trying to white wash.
       Difference comes from the heart , if the hearts are not seeking
       that , I sure can't bring it to pass.
       From now on, I intend to keep my hands off ...and allow the Site
       to be what it will be.
       Right now I somehow don’t feel that it will last very long.
       It may just vanish in a puff ...as the members dwindle away,
       back to CB.
       Well at least we were all willing, and we gave it a try.
       [emoji4]
       It is out of our hands now-God and the Membership here will
       either make something of it , or not.
       So what I am probably not saying well, is that for myself, I am
       not going to  ‘try’ to bring forth anything.  God knows.
       Any ‘trying’ on my part would just be my flesh at work , not
       Gods hand.
       The hearts are where it is at,  and it is the proof of where the
       real desires lays.
       God Bless one and all.
       In love  Helen x
       [/quote]
       A forum could be seen as like having a child. And we want to
       protect that child from the evils of the world as we would be
       tempted to do with a real child. But it would be wiser to
       prepare the child for anything that comes their way...and leave
       off the protection.
       We need order but never control. If we can differentiate those
       2...keeping the freedom in the Spirit as an undefiled
       maxim...then we can proceed come what may.
       So we have to allow God in to challenge and to correct and to
       tear down and to build and to edify. ALL of it.
       just a thought...
       #Post#: 11434--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &lt; To All Members  Here &gt;
       By: Willie T Date: February 25, 2020, 5:04 pm
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       Well, maybe I see things differently than others do.  If a man
       on one of my jobs fouled something up, I put the responsibility
       of fixing that work on him, and only on him.  I tried never
       (unless it was a dire emergency) to take that away from each
       individual.
       If someone calls some one a ________ , or threatens something
       out of line, it is my firm conviction that the first order of
       resolution for the administration is contacting the poster,
       explaining the problem, and telling them to go fix it right now
       by rewording what they said.
       If they refuse, THEN deleting could be in order.  But Thread
       titles (of someone else's thread) should never be changed.
       Posts a person wrote should not just vanish before they even
       appear, IF there is no profanity or something like that,
       involved.
       As I said, maybe I'm totally wrong in that thinking, but I
       cannot, for the life of me, understand why things can't be
       handled that way.  Recommend changes and alterations, rather
       than ripping things up like Nancy Pelosi did to Trump's speech.
       Of course, that is just my view on a few things.  I'm perfectly
       willing to hear why they won't work.
       #Post#: 11436--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &lt; To All Members  Here &gt;
       By: guest55 Date: February 25, 2020, 6:00 pm
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       Not posting this at any one . I just saw it on FB and it
       reminded me of this thread. This grumpy baby is so cute.
       Sheesh again o well
       #Post#: 11440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &lt; To All Members  Here &gt;
       By: Helen Date: February 25, 2020, 8:30 pm
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       [quote author=Episkopay link=topic=759.msg11433#msg11433
       date=1582671706]
       A forum could be seen as like having a child. And we want to
       protect that child from the evils of the world as we would be
       tempted to do with a real child. But it would be wiser to
       prepare the child for anything that comes their way...and leave
       off the protection.
       We need order but never control. If we can differentiate those
       2...keeping the freedom in the Spirit as an undefiled
       maxim...then we can proceed come what may.
       So we have to allow God in to challenge and to correct and to
       tear down and to build and to edify. ALL of it.
       just a thought...
       [/quote]
       Good thought , I see what you are saying.. .. but it's not where
       I am at.
       It's not 'my' child ...
       This "Spare Room" was just offered as an empty site spinning for
       a few years in space doing nothing.
       So when mjrhealth mentioned that he'd like a safer place ( He
       was thinking of inviting Pia, whom some of you would remember
       from a couple of years ago on CB. )
       ...but  for some reason I slowly began to feel that somehow I
       was responsible for this Sites success or its failure.  How
       stupid was that!
       I am not.
       I am just as everyone else , daily step by step making my way
       Home.
       It just nice to have someone to the right and to left to chat
       with and encourage each other along the way.  Fellowship is
       needful and helpful, we need our brothers and sisters speaking
       into our life.
       You say ' we need order' I believe that is what our brothers and
       sisters are for!   God set us in a body of which He is the Head.
       So we will either moderate each other by the Spirit ( and
       ourselves) or we may as well just go back to CB. ( those of you
       who can go, anyway! LOL )
       
       Everyone here is a mature christian, we can so easily bring a
       positive to cover a negative ,( our friend Amadeus has a knack
       of doing that...over the years he has slapped me down firmly ,
       but in a kind and gentle way. ;D ) confrontation is not always
       or often needed, but a positive post to cover a negative is good
       and easy for keeping the spiritual atmosphere encouraging and
       friendly....and the Holy Spirit is the One who actually speaks
       to the heart of the offender.
       One thread on CB I was in, it took me pages before I slapped my
       head and realized that the guy could not hear a word I was
       saying...and he, by his own words , was totally closed to
       anything from the holy spirit.
       Just black print on white paper was all he could see and hear.
       Let God be true...and have His way. &#9829;&#65038;
       Sorry, rambling somewhat here...
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