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#Post#: 3124--------------------------------------------------
Swapping Stone
DIR By: Naminé
Date: November 5, 2013, 9:51 am
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Name Swapping Stone
Effect: The holder isn't hurt by recoil (including struggle) but
instead lowers the users attack by 2 stages when using recoil
moves.
Buying Price: Not buyable but found in victory road.
Selling Price: 10,000
Fling power: 90
Why using it? It is usefull because some recoil moves are really
strong but you don't want that damage gone! Especially moves
like: Brave Bird, Flare Blitz and Double Edge are better and you
can just switch to get the attack drop gone.
Is it OP? No, the attack drop can sometimes be fatal and the
attack isn't boosted.
#Post#: 3138--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: cofagragus
Date: November 5, 2013, 5:26 pm
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hahaha or you can let Defiant mons available to use it normally
and its atk going to normal after lowered since not many Defiant
mons can abuse this anyways, and you can make Contrary users not
reverse the stat lowered by this item.
#Post#: 3141--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: November 6, 2013, 12:27 am
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We can't ban items on certain mons
#Post#: 3144--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: Izanagi
Date: November 6, 2013, 9:03 am
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It's a interesting item idea, letting you preserve a mon for
longer at the cost of lowering it's power after the use, High
Jump Kick users like mienshao are going to love you forever for
making this item Naminé, but aside from what you already said
regarding contrary and defiant being possibly OP with the item
there's nothing wrong from what i can see.
#Post#: 3147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: Naminé
Date: November 6, 2013, 9:52 am
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Ok i used cofagrigus's idea of making it not boost contrary (tbh
i don't know if any contrary mons learn recoil moves) but since
it is hard to code to exclude it i don't think contrary will be
a too big problem and cofagrigus is also right that it still
lowers the attack by defiant mons so only a 1 boost ot even
none.
#Post#: 3149--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: November 6, 2013, 10:00 am
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Negative for complicated, creates some OP scenario's and I think
we can spend our items better, as well as other reasons I stated
to you in PM @namine
#Post#: 3150--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: Naminé
Date: November 6, 2013, 10:05 am
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It isn't THAT complitcated only 2 things:
No recoil.
Lowers the users attack by 2 stages when using a recoil move.
As stated in the description it was to prevent negatives from it
being op, Only mon learning any recoil moves with contrary is
spinda with all stats 60 still to frail and stuff, and barviary
even if it has no drawback brave bird, 80 speed is just too slow
to sweep, it also got no attack boost or speed boost from a
band/scarf so it won't even hit too hard.
About using the slots better, idk but tbh i haven't really seen
any super items for the last months, so i thought i proposed an
interesting one that would actually be used and not just left
behind like a odd bone.
#Post#: 3151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: November 6, 2013, 10:10 am
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okay I'll abstain now, but I still think the slots can be spend
better (maybe bit strange but meh)
#Post#: 3161--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: cofagragus
Date: November 6, 2013, 5:24 pm
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Positive I think its an interesting strategy in Contrarymons
where all stat changes are reversed.
#Post#: 3162--------------------------------------------------
Re: Swapping Stone
DIR By: Smite
Date: November 6, 2013, 5:33 pm
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Positive I think I am going to use Braviary all the time now :)
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