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#Post#: 2391--------------------------------------------------
NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Present
Date: September 25, 2013, 12:07 pm
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Hello all,
Nam and I decided to make a new Pokémon (for me after a long
time), and here it is:
Name: SOMEONE MAY INSERT A LOVELY NAME
Type: Psychic / Bug
Ability: 1: Tinted Lens 2: Regenerator Hidden: Technician
Stats: 90 / 50 / 95 / 110 / 95 / 85 : 525 BST
Level-up Moves:
---: Magical Leaf
---: Air Slash
---: Psyshock
1: Scratch
1: String Shot
1: Focus Energy
3: Fury Cutter
5: Miracle Eye
9: Leech Life
13: False Swipe
18: Confusion
22: Encore
26: Slash
31: Bug Bite
35: Psybeam
41: Silver Wind
45: Baton Pass
49: Psycho Cut
54: Signal Beam
58: Meditate
53: Psychic
68: Bug Buzz
73: Future Sight
TM's:
TM04 Calm Mind
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM29 Psychic
TM30 Shadow Ball
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM44 Rest
TM52 Focus Blast
TM53 Energy Ball
TM54 False Swipe
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM75 Swords Dance
TM81 X-scissor
TM86 Grass Knot
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
HM01 Cut
HM02 Fly
so: it has claws (x-scissor, false swipe) and outside of psychic
/ bug, it got grass coverage (hits nothing notable). It can also
fly (fly) and obviously got lenses for its eyes (like certain
bugs, see yanmega) regenerator is from its psychic side, so it
is a kind of bulkier floating bug thing with claws and wings but
a psychic touch to it (mostly in potential clothing / colour
sceme)
debatable: focus blast
need discussion: quiver dance (it is a kind of butterfly /
buggie thing),
added in level up / egg moves: roost, bug and psychic moves,
Egg Moves:
Ominous Wind
Giga Drain
Trick
Night Slash
Steel Wing
Roost
Agility
Struggle Bug
Magic Coat
Knock Off
Signal Beam
Gender Ratio:
25 M/75 F
Egg Group:
Bug / Amorphous
Rate / comment away.
#Post#: 2392--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Present
Date: September 25, 2013, 12:09 pm
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PS: If explanation is needed, ask away (not too much, I don 't
have too much time on my hands), but I would be happy to provide
reasoning (most moves etc. should be self explanatory due to the
appearance desription)
I did not take quiver dance btw. If people feel it should be
happy, say so below. Any other moves I might have forgotten can
be proposed.
(such as new moves already accepted, or ones I simply missed)
#Post#: 2393--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: September 25, 2013, 12:21 pm
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My question is mostly why...
Hello all,
Nam and I decided to make a new Pokémon (for me after a long
time), and here it is:
Name: SOMEONE MAY INSERT A LOVELY NAME
Type: Psychic / Bug
Ability: 1: Tinted Lens 2: Regenerator Hidden: Technician
(Any reason you took arguably the most OP abilities outside
Trapping/Powers/Guards?)
Stats: 90 / 50 / 95 / 110 / 95 / 85 : 525 BST (and a perfect
spread for a bulky special attacker, is this meant
competitively?)
Level-up Moves:
---: Magical Leaf (Yay magical leaves, I always imagine them on
a bug psychic type)
---: Air Slash
---: Psyshock (Shocking Pies :], too strong for Level 1, yes I
know heart scale, but mons just know the last 4 mons in it's
movepool, ones before those four are heart scale moves)
1: Scratch
1: String Shot
1: Focus Energy
3: Fury Cutter
5: Miracle Eye
9: Leech Life
13: False Swipe
18: Confusion
22: Encore
26: Slash
31: Bug Bite
35: Psybeam
41: Silver Wind
45: Baton Pass (any reason for this?)
49: Psycho Cut
54: Signal Beam
58: Meditate (I don't see the logic in this)
53: Psychic
68: Bug Buzz
73: Future Sight
TM's:
TM04 Calm Mind
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM29 Psychic
TM30 Shadow Ball
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM44 Rest
TM52 Focus Blast
TM53 Energy Ball
TM54 False Swipe
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM75 Swords Dance
TM81 X-scissor
TM86 Grass Knot
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
HM01 Cut
HM02 Fly (Thnx for letting me know, nearly no bug gets Fly)
so: it has claws (x-scissor, false swipe) and outside of psychic
/ bug, it got grass coverage (hits nothing notable). It can also
fly (fly) and obviously got lenses for its eyes (like certain
bugs, see yanmega) regenerator is from its psychic side, so it
is a kind of bulkier floating bug thing with claws and wings but
a psychic touch to it (mostly in potential clothing / colour
sceme) Yay, it's a psychic type, let's give Jynx/Swoobat/Jirachi
Regenerator, they are psychics right, I don't have too much
against Tinted Lens, just that it seems a bit competitively
based
debatable: focus blast (meh this is ok, enough get it)
need discussion: quiver dance (it is a kind of butterfly /
buggie thing), (I thought you guys didn't want a Tinted Lens
Quiver Dance mon after Finsetha which was badly forced to be
changed, sigh, still need to be done)
added in level up / egg moves: roost, bug and psychic moves,
Egg Moves:
Ominous Wind
Giga Drain
Trick
Night Slash
Steel Wing
Roost
Agility
Struggle Bug
Magic Coat
Knock Off
Signal Beam
Meh these are ok
Gender Ratio:
25 M/75 F any reason for this spread, just curious
Egg Group:
Bug / Amorphous okay, why amorphous? I don't really know why...
Rate / comment away.
As you may notice, my biggest problem are it's above great
awesome abilities, as well as it's extreme bulky attacker stat
spread which makes it hard to break, also no prevo's so my be OP
ingame, I rather see either bad stat spreads
(Cacturne/Zebstrika/Electrode) or lower stat spreads in the
range 400 till like 500 at best
I've commented on moves too, but that isn't as badly or
something, only small points for which I won't vote negative,
just small nitpicks that I'd like to correct.
Sorry if I'm hard, I try to be critical (which is needed as
cofagragus votes positive on everything)
GL with it
Edit: But, wait till we had our talk about SOP's mons, before
that these spots aren't open and we didn't talk about them yet
-.-' we also need to talk about the total accepted and such,
maybe update a bit etc.
#Post#: 2394--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Present
Date: September 25, 2013, 12:51 pm
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First of, I strongly disapprove of your agressive way of posting
your comments. I would have prefered a more civil approach.
Reasons for Technician are plentiful. First of, designwise this
Pokémon resembles Scyther / Weavile for their claws; hence
making Technician an acceptable ability. Secondly (In fear for
your OPness), It got no moves to abuse it, outside of one single
move: hidden power (forcing it to lower other stats, most likely
attack and another one) Technician being OP, or at least good,
in popular opinion is its usage and prevelance on physically
biased Pokémon. This Pokémon having only 50 Base Attack does not
have the stats (nor does it have the correct physical moves) to
abuse this ability anyway, making the ability more novelty then
anything else.
Psychic and Bug Buzz both sit at 90 BP (Air Slash at 95), making
not one Technician boosted move outside of Hidden Power worth a
shot.
Regenerator is yet another designwise chosen ability, based on
its psychic typing. Beign a psyhic type opens up the ability for
regenerator. Then in comes the fact that this lovely bug is fat.
Fat bugs already opens up more room for Regenerator. The fact
that it got the ability should tell you that it is indeed able
to recover itself. (Bugs -> exoskeletons. And Psychic power for
cell repair)
Tinted Lens, again, is based on its envisioned design, having
the same eyes as Yanmega and Venomoth (you have to admit, cool
enough). Even then, it should be no problem to convince you that
this Pokémon got access to this ability for design, and not
offensive, reasons. I did quite some damage calculations with
the moves Psychic and Bug Buzz, its stabs, and only one Pokémon
in around the top 150 (I stopped looking afterwards) shows up
that is hit while activating Tinted Lens. This Pokémon is
Heatran, a pain in the eye for any Psychic and Bug type. Even
then, it still is not hit hard.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tinted Lens (custom) Psychic vs. 248 HP /
252+ SpD Heatran: 150-176 (38.96 - 45.71%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
It is now enabled one hit harder then it would do otherwise vs
one single Pokémon roaming OU, Heatran. At this point, running
Specs and a Modest
nature, the poor bug will get killed by any other offensive mon,
since it will be outsped by way too much. (85 base speed is
really middling. Remember that this is the game AFTER the game
where 100 base speed is considered 'slow' for OU)
Magical Leaf is indeed a move found on lots of Psychic types,
like Gardevoir and Mr Mime. Baton Pass is also inspired by the
same moves it aesthetically relates to, like Scyther and Mr
Mime. Likewise with Giga Drain and Venomoth.
Meditate is, as the name suggests, clearing you mind. By nature
alone, any Pokémon should be able to learn it.
The reasons I had for any of the decisions were based on the
looks / design I want for this Pokémon. To ensure it would not
be OP, like you are afraid of it will be, I did some
calculations and did not give it the coverage it would need to
abuse its abilities. (boltbeam for tinted lens, high attack and
priority moves for technician) Regenerator is not effected or
affected by stats too much.
Hope that clears up any of your questions,
Present
#Post#: 2396--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Eneomas
Date: September 25, 2013, 1:40 pm
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I might have a name:
What about: Wizug ?
(wizard+bug)
also, not realy sure what to vote. true, it sounds/ looks cool.
But is there any story behind it?
on top of that the stats are a bit too high for a one stage, not
legendary mon. I had to lower my first mon, because it was
deemed too much, and that was a stage 2 (spidium, just fyi)!
those 90/95/95 defences would be really good for any mon, was it
not for the fact, that it has an awful type combination. Maybe
lower the stats to like 500/510? maybe?
Lastly, most moves are fine, but I don't realy feel roost. I get
it, it flies, but it just feels like a cheap easy recovery.
(also, I think psychic is supposed to be level 63 instead of
53?)
I will not vote as of now, but I'll keep notice of this one.
#Post#: 2397--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: September 25, 2013, 2:27 pm
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actually a double resistance to fighting, resistance to ground,
psychic and grass isn't THAT bad, even tho it has a weakness to
SR, U-Turn and Pursuit (which isn't that common), it is pretty
good at absorbing most neutral hits and it feels a bit
competitively made
#Post#: 2398--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Naminé
Date: September 25, 2013, 3:01 pm
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May i say it has weakness to rock (quite common), dark/ghost
(also quite common), fire (sun teams and as said heatran
extremely common) and bug (al those u-turn mons), so even if it
has a lot of bulk i don't think it will survive that manny hits.
#Post#: 2399--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: September 25, 2013, 3:31 pm
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Rock is fairly uncommon, only SR is common, Ghost and Dark are
very uncommon, U-Turn is what I already said, Sun teams aren't
that common, Heatran is only one mon and it doesn't get 50%
usage, I mean more that it is very competitively based as seen
in it's stat spread and abilities, I'd also like your arguments
more if it would've been Galvantula and Rotom or so, as I am
more opting for RU/NU at this point rather even PU
I never said it was OP with Technician, I said it is generally
based as one of the best abilities in the game.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tinted Lens (custom) Psychic vs. 248 HP /
252+ SpD Heatran: 150-176 (38.96 - 45.71%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
(oh so it is OU, great we already have too many OU mons)
I never said it was a sweeper, I said it was a perfect bulky
attacker (and a lot of scarfers like RotomW have around this
speed stat, it also has thunder wave)
OOOH, Gardevoid and Mr Mime qualify as A LOT OF PSYCHIC TYPES
0.0
and you gave it a move "every mon should be able to learn", yea
not everyone does, so it is probably more for mons based on that
characteristics
A fat bug... wut? I really don't know about this flavourwise but
anyway, Snorlax with Regenerator? Lickilicky? Walrein? only
logical things like Reuniclus get it (recovering it's cells),
even tho I probably missed something
Baton Pass like Scyther and Mr. Mime? it was a fat thing? I
don't get you anyway, it looks like those things, it has claws
and tinted lenses? a mon doesn't get all options something of
teh same typing gets, if I build a mon that's say a Bug / Flying
type I don't give it Megahorn either...
I am not afraid it is OP, I am afraid it is again an OU mon and
too competitively made
I said even at the end of the post "sorry if I sound offensive,
I only want to improve it"
Anyway's if you really want to make it this way, make it like a
special Escavalier, that is really strong and quite bulky, but
bad movepool/abilities, or something in that direction, just
some combo that it wouldn't turn out too good, but still usable
in some roles (even tho I'd like PU mons more, I can't control
that)
Sorry that I sound mean, but really I don't like those abilities
at least (as I said last post)
#Post#: 2401--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: cofagragus
Date: September 25, 2013, 9:41 pm
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@Present, I noticed you said HP is affected by Technician
(unless different IVs than 30/31) and that Air Slash is 95 BP;
Air Slash is 75 BP w/ 95 Accuracy and HP is 70 or less BP, which
Id always prefer. BTW it can abuse more than the aforementioned
moves:
Silver Wind
Magical Leaf
Grass Knot
Ominous Wind
Shock Wave (if tutor or somethin')
Aerial Ace
(above are somewhat usable I never said they are all OP moves)
Second, I agree with Present that Snaquaza approaches others
mons with commenting on their own quote and feels a bit
unnecesarry to go of on others mons :/
Third I have a name: Slicent. Its fun and has an original
Pokemon ring to it :)
#Post#: 2404--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW POKEMON, NAME NEEDED!
DIR By: Naminé
Date: September 26, 2013, 8:47 am
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Well rock is quite common look at EdgeQuake A LOT of mons carry
it. Ghost/Dark seems uncommon but ttar is used a lot with both
edge crunch and pursuit which are quite common moves. Shadow
Ball is also a move used a lot. Also fire type moves are careed
on ALMOST EVERY dragon because of steel's resist.
So those weaknesses are INDEED common.
About Technician:
Silver Wind, Bugg Buzz is the same base power and has more pp so
useless kinda.
Magical Leaf, Well ok this might be but Giga drain with another
ability is more usefull.
Grass Knot, Not always 60 or less.
Ominous Wind, Shadow ball is only 10 base power less but more
pp.
Shock Wave , Another ok but it has no real reasons to use it.
Aerial Ace, look at it's attack stat.
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