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       #Post#: 2164--------------------------------------------------
       Fog Generator
   DIR By: cofagragus
       Date: September 5, 2013, 9:25 pm
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       Effect:
       Lowers Accuracy of all Pokémon battling.
       Doubles the power of Weather Ball, but Castform stays in
       its normal form.
       Honey cannot be used to attract wild Pokémon in tall
       grass or in caves.
       Causes Moonlight, Synthesis, and Morning Sun to recover
       Ľ of max HP.
       Field effects: Thick fog blankets everything. Obstacles and
       Trainers are difficult to see. Can be cleared with Defog.
       Clearing move: Defog
       Activating move: Fog
       Activating Ability: Fog Generator
       Routes/areas where it is encountered naturally: (just a few
       appropriate areas)
       Anyway what I am trying to do is buff and make Fog a usable
       weather condition; I will also propose a Fog Machine move to go
       with this ability; hope it goes to a cloud pokemon or something
       like Atmosfear maybe.
       #Post#: 2173--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: Zyphirex
       Date: September 6, 2013, 5:18 pm
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       Fog is and was just a troll weather. That's why it got removed
       in Gen 5. But idk, maybe it will work. Positive But change the
       name o3o.
       #Post#: 2177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: Champion Steve
       Date: September 6, 2013, 6:37 pm
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       Huh, really didn't expect anyone to actually vote positive on
       this. So I'll vote Negative since this a terrible, terrible
       idea. A trolly weather that makes you miss a lot? That's
       aggravating. A weather that makes you miss a lot that's also
       competitively viable? Congratulations, you just ruined the game.
       Any matches this is involved in will be decided by dumb luck in
       an unacceptably high percent of occasions. Also, why does this
       boost two types at once? Flying isn't exactly a terrible STAB.
       And Normal has access to ExtremeSpeed.
       Can we please think these things through?
       #Post#: 2178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: Zyphirex
       Date: September 6, 2013, 6:44 pm
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       Oh yah, this would be banned from competitive play anyways, so
       no need to base your rating on competitiveness. -.- Just like
       evasion abilities are banned. So it's u who should reconsider.
       Fog is cool as long as its just in one area of a game. Makes
       some extra aesthetic touches. I think that it sets a good
       atmofear (lel).
       #Post#: 2179--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: Champion Steve
       Date: September 6, 2013, 6:54 pm
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       Not an area, it's an ability. And presumably a move. And why
       would you tie such a powerful effect (make no mistake, that
       damage boost is amazing) to something that no-one wants? Even
       the person using the ability has an annoying chance of missing.
       So basically we have an overpowered ability that has annoying
       hax tied to it. Let's ignore the fact that this will let you
       steamroll ingame (there's a reason why the only access to
       Drought and Drizzle were on the already overpowered Kyogre and
       Groudon), if it gets banned competitively then we're throwing
       out one of the better strategies, making us question why it was
       ever created (to fuck up Ubers?) If we keep it, well...
       This idea is just bad on every level.
       #Post#: 2180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: Snaquaza
       Date: September 6, 2013, 6:56 pm
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       Negative  for reasons stated
       #Post#: 2181--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: cofagragus
       Date: September 6, 2013, 6:58 pm
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       fine fine removed accuracy lower
       #Post#: 2182--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: Zyphirex
       Date: September 6, 2013, 7:03 pm
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       A few things more.
       1. Evasion Abilities are banned in all tiers, including ubers,
       so such an ability or move would not "fuck up ubers."
       2. I don't like the buffs and changes, I'd rather just have Gen
       4 style Fog, and give a generic Fog move to some Pokemon. An
       ability is a bit much.
       #Post#: 2183--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: cofagragus
       Date: September 6, 2013, 7:05 pm
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       it would be rejected otherwise bcause theres other ppl that most
       likely say its bad too
       #Post#: 2184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fog Generator
   DIR By: Champion Steve
       Date: September 6, 2013, 7:11 pm
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       Ubers has no Evasion Clause so no, it wouldn't be auto-banned in
       Ubers. And since it gives a massive attack boost to Ho-oh and
       Arceus-Normal, it would have a definite niche. Which is a shame,
       since the beauty of Ubers is that the haxy moves and abilities
       just lack the strength to compete. This... doesn't.
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