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       #Post#: 2042--------------------------------------------------
       Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Snaquaza
       Date: September 1, 2013, 9:13 am
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       Thermoglace
       Fire/Ice
       Base Stats:
       HP 90
       Atk 80
       Def 90
       SpAtk 80
       SpDef 90
       Spe 85
       
       
       Movepool
       
       ... -Tackle
       -Harden
       6Powder Snow
       6Ember
       10Nitro Shot
       17Flame Burst
       17Frost Breath
       26Glaciate
       31Hammer Arm
       40Quagmire
       49Sheer Cold
       49Inferno
       54Iron Defense
       54Amnesia
       60Weather Pulse
       
       Egg Moves (Mineral):
       Automize
       Explosion
       Iron Tail
       Body Throw
       Stealth Rock
       Head Smash
       Curse
       Spikes
       Weather Ball
       Iron Defense
       
       
       
       Weight: 4261.8 Ibs
       
       He is very heavy
       
       
       TMs
       
       ... TMs:
       TM03Calm Mind
       TM06 Toxic
       TM07 Hail
       TM10 Hidden Power
       TM11 Sunny Day
       TM12 Taunt
       TM13 Ice Beam
       TM14 Blizzard
       TM15 Hyper Beam
       TM17 Protect
       TM21 Frustration
       TM22 Solarbeam
       TM26 Earthquake
       TM27 Return
       TM28 Dig
       TM31 Brick Break
       TM32 Double Team
       TM35 Flamethrower
       TM37 Sandstorm
       TM38 Fire Blast
       TM44 Rest
       TM52 Focus Blast
       TM53 Energy Ball
       TM61 Will-o-wisp
       TM64 Explosion
       TM68 Giga Impact
       TM69 Rock Polish
       TM71 Stone Edge
       TM73 Thunder Wave
       TM74 Gyro Ball
       TM80 Rock Slide
       TM84 Poison Jab
       TM87 Swagger
       TM90 Substitute
       TM91 Flash Cannon
       TM94 Rock Smash
       
       HM01 Cut
       HM04 Strength
       
       
       
       Other Info:
       
       ... Pokedex Entry:
       It has an explosive temper. It can freeze magma into rock and
       create its own armor.
       Species: Volcanic Glacier Pokemon
       Location:
       Height: 5' 11''
       Color: Grey
       Gender Ratio: 50/50
       Egg Group: Mineral
       Egg Cycles: 26
       EV Yield: 1 Def 1 SpDef
       Exp. Growth:Slow
       Capture Rate:76
       Base Happiness:70
       #Post#: 2043--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Snaquaza
       Date: September 1, 2013, 9:15 am
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       I think the Mon doesn't really make sense, the stats are
       balanced but parts of the movepool are odd, also it has a really
       strange concept and the multiple parts of it don't fit with
       another, I voted NO, aka Negative as I think the slot can be
       used way better than this strange thing
       #Post#: 2046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: EhhhN
       Date: September 1, 2013, 9:48 am
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       SOMEBODY FINALLY MAKES A FIRE AND ICE TYPE. WOOOOHOOOO!!! Even
       though I love the new typing, you've got a crap ton of
       weaknesses that are coming at you, mainly SR being the downfall.
       Its movepool is higher and longer than a glacier, that can
       really help it run diverse sets. I can see a potential SubCM set
       coming out of it. However, it is pretty dang fast for a four
       thousand pound mon. Autotomize should be replaced with Heavy
       Slam, as it shouldn't be that fast. Curse is excellent for it,
       but you might want to lower the Speed on this big guy. In the
       level up, replace Sheer Cold with Blizzard or Ice Beam. Finally,
       is there an ability on this thing? You didn't mention it. Maybe
       that will change my vote, right now I'm leaning towards
       Negative, as it seems to be the makings of a threat but it
       doesn't seem to be all there.
       #Post#: 2047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Snaquaza
       Date: September 1, 2013, 9:49 am
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       He is banned he can't change it, it is this or nothing
       #Post#: 2048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Zyphirex
       Date: September 1, 2013, 9:50 am
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       Stats are too balanced. Way too fast for a mon that weighs 4000
       lbs. Remake. Fire/Ice type is good. Somebody make a new Fire/Ice
       type. Kthx.
       #Post#: 2049--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Eneomas
       Date: September 1, 2013, 10:05 am
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       well, there's a lot of nitpicking to be done here. First off,
       515 BST for a basic non legend mon is very big. It should either
       have a prevo, or a lower bst. Speed... Well let's just say no
       and move on. Third off, what's the ability? I wouldn't know.
       Fourthly: it has a lot of moves i don't know, though that could
       be my lack of gen 5/ Terv knowledge. Fifth: Sheer Cold could be
       done, but it should be the last move it learns at like level 67,
       and it has too many level up moves at the same level. So I guess
       negative
       #Post#: 2050--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Zyphirex
       Date: September 1, 2013, 10:06 am
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       Snaq says that this mon can't be modified. Somebody should
       submit a new Fire/Ice mon that can be voted on once this gets
       rejected.
       #Post#: 2051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Eneomas
       Date: September 1, 2013, 10:09 am
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       I would love to.
       #Post#: 2062--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: Snaquaza
       Date: September 1, 2013, 3:42 pm
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       I would like to hear any arguments from the ppl who voted
       positive
       #Post#: 2093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Revote Thermoglace
   DIR By: cofagragus
       Date: September 2, 2013, 10:31 pm
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       Yay its rejected!!! Neew slots for proposals ^^!!!
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