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#Post#: 1876--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: sadoldporygon
Date: August 25, 2013, 6:59 am
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yes it got accepted along with Spacial Concentration, Expertism,
and a bunch more before the group was hacked; before you were in
the group...
#Post#: 1877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: sadoldporygon
Date: August 25, 2013, 7:02 am
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The effects are:
All damage done to the user by attacks is reduced by 20% but all
attackes always hit that Pokemon ( like a reverse No Guard).
#Post#: 1945--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: cofagragus
Date: August 28, 2013, 6:47 pm
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honestly this Pokemon is very confusing from evolution to its
trolly stats ; I do not like it and if it WILL be succesful, I
suggest listening to the latters advice and revise this thing
#Post#: 1946--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: Zyphirex
Date: August 28, 2013, 9:45 pm
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About the current state of things:
1. First off, sadold: STFU, the only reason to put in a bunch of
normal mons is to make them interesting/complicated/gimmicky
#CastformBiotch
2. Base Stat wise, this thing is literally Registeel on
steroids. Let's take a look:
Registeel: 80
Cushown:150 80 150 80 150 60
BUT, before you say "OMGUS! NERF NERF NERF!" Let's look at some
possible restrictions on it.
3. Narcolepsy
TBH, I think that ability would be cool as f**k. Because screw
your Toxic Spikes and burns and parahax. Not only that, but
Narcolepsy also totally trashes the offensive capabilities of
this mon (as far as I can see). The only other thing that need
be done is not giving the mon any recovery moves because that
would be the most epic troll stall ever. I'm seeing this mon
mostly as a set up/statuser. Maybe it would increase utility of
fighting mons? That's just speculation ofc.
4. The Idea/Concept
AWESOME!!!
Based on this analysis: Positive
Now show me some movesets!
#Post#: 1949--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: cofagragus
Date: August 28, 2013, 10:46 pm
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Zyphirex Im going to agree with you. I think the idea is
honestly cool, I am asking to clear up some evolution confusion
(is it like shedinja). But yes it is like a Registeel on
steroids, and I will most likely vote Positive (remember this is
a W.I.P. [work in progress]) Even though Slack Off is the best
flavour move to this (also Cotton Guard and Defense Curl), Slack
Off is agreeably too trollish of a stall. BUT, if this is
allowed in Balanced Hackmons... it might get access to Magic
Guard and Recovery, will it not? I also see this as a great
Haxmons Poke; absorbing status and hax. But one question
remains: how will it get to actually use moves on its own apart
from Sleep Talk and Snore? The best way fit is propose a move
that can be used in sleep (like a buffed Snore) OR a buff to the
Pokemons ability so it auto-sleep talks each turn.
#Post#: 1955--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: Eneomas
Date: August 29, 2013, 8:37 am
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well... Actually, it was my purpose to put sleep talk as one of
the moves, randomizing the moves it uses, and thus making it
really gimmicky and difficult to use attacking, as it uses
random moves. I could change the ability to auto sleep talk each
turn, but i will see about that, as that gives it a lot more PP
stall.
I might actually have an idea, wait, and you will see...
#Post#: 1956--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: August 29, 2013, 8:40 am
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Sorry, I'll vote Negative once voting starts, this is way too
good defensively not to be hit by any Status and it has higher
defenses than GIRATINA
#Post#: 1963--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: Zyphirex
Date: August 29, 2013, 8:02 pm
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Registeel has higher defenses than Giratina (although less HP).
Slaking's attack is as high as Regigigas's. Cushown's constant
sleep makes it's behavior unpredictable so you couldn't use it
as a wall that chips away at opponents reliably. Also, if it has
no recovery moves, then it can't effectively be used as a
long-term wall (like Blissey or Giratina). Running some calcs on
this mon. There are a lot of mons that could run 3HKOs on it and
a few that could 2HKO (Terrakion or Deoxys-A to name a few). In
other words, with Sleep Talk randomness and no recovery (not to
mention possible SR or spikes) a user would have just enough
time to pull of whatever set-up move they were trying to use.
Thus, I don't think this would be OP, and I would be very
interested in playtesting it.
EDIT: Most +2 Atk or Sp Atk sweepers could 2HKO this thing if
they run Close Combat or Focus Blast. So something like that
could stop it from setting up effectively.
#Post#: 1974--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: cofagragus
Date: August 30, 2013, 8:54 am
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2 People vs 1, 1 more vote perhaps when it starts. BUT, this
needs moves and explaining of evolution, evolution is confusing
with this :/ Also, @Snaq, this most likely wont get any recovery
and Rest doesnt work for sleeping mons
#Post#: 1979--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hedgehoft ,Furrike & Cushown (first glance, W.I.P.)
DIR By: Snaquaza
Date: August 30, 2013, 1:08 pm
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well imagine it, 150 defenses higher than Giratina while unable
to be worn down by status
ALSO EVER NOTICED HOW DAMN BULKY GIRATINA IS!?
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