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Numbers on server
By: madcow Date: June 24, 2020, 1:30 pm
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1) there seems to be an issue where lots of the regular players
just keep voting for dust2 or office which some people including
myself find very boring and shit. There are lots of other better
maps available which are not being used. For me if dust2 or
office are being used I will go to the german classics server
which has a better range of modern maps like ukcs used to.
2) some players seem to think that they are professionals and
watch all the youtube videos on how to cheat or (hack). A few
regulars who seem to kill the average players and put them off
playing and so they go to other servers or games. The german
classics server seems to have come up with a solution, no
professional players allowed. If a players kill/death ratio goes
above 2 or 3 they are limited to only be able to buy or use a
handgun, but no rifles. This sounds like a good idea to me to
make things fairer and encourage the less good players who get
put off.
3) You say no camping in the rules but at least half the players
on the server do camp and this is not enforced at present. I
half camp or rush with p90!
If the issues with better range of maps and handicaps for the
better players are not resolved the server numbers will shrink
away and the server will go the way of ukcs!
Madcow/bullshit/dave
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Re: Numbers on server
By: Mmrraww Date: June 26, 2020, 5:30 am
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Hey bud, as it turns out I'm somewhat in the same boat as you
regarding these things. There's many fixes that can sort these
out but getting them working to a point where everybody is happy
with the results is proving kinda tricky so far. The line
between 'pro' players and us regular folk can be blurred at
times. Speaking for myself sometimes I can be unstoppable for
one map, then the next end up looking like a right nub. I do
like the idea of limiting guns after a certain k/d is met but
having tried other servers with this plugin it plays hell with
my game/muscle memory. I guess that's kind of the point though,
giving other players an advantage at that stage.
The camping debate seems as though it's unclear from player to
player. I've always seen it as being an issue with one team at a
time, and what I mean by that is, for example as we play mostly
defuse maps, it lies with the T side to follow their objective.
When a terro sits in spawn not progressing or helping their team
we'll of course tell em off. If they keep it up the nicest thing
to do is beacon them to at least get the round over if they're
the last standing especially. On defuse maps I don't think any T
can call out campers as it's their job to do so on that side. I
know that's not what you were getting at but loads of times a T
who gets killed, even on a bombsite will shout 'camper bitch'
etc, yet that's just part of the game. Had to get that out there
:p
I'll shout at our Mr. Server Runner the next time I talk and
sort the maps out further. Might have already been done at this
point because some of us are thinking the same thing. Personally
I would have the original Office and lose the other ones
currently in the pool. I hate Office with a passion, but at
least cs_havana isn't taking its spot... Maybe a longer cooldown
after being voted/nominated would help. As for dust2, I know
it's the most played map ever but it brings in a steady flow of
players and it's even still in the current match pool for Global
Offensive so it's doing something right. One of the issues is
currently coming from the nomination list being awkward. There
are maps that are on the server that aren't showing in the
nomination list at the moment but again, some convincing and
bribery will have that sorted ;)
It feels a bit like we're running a small country though - You
can't please everyone. Love your inputs though Cow, always keep
em coming!
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Re: Numbers on server
By: Cathedral Date: June 26, 2020, 6:08 am
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I agree with both of you
I must say, I DO like those maps to play from time to time or
even regularly but like Cow says, for some players it seems like
they only want to play those same few maps evening after
evening, over and over again, while there's so many other great
maps that either don't get chosen or make people leave. Last
week even the once so popular Parthenon leaked the server to
only a handful of players.
Sometimes I wonder what people actually want. Do they only want
to play Dust 2, Office and Pyramid? Why not play some other new
ones or replay some older ones that where so popular in the
past?
Many players where actually asking for more maps a few weeks
after the server was born.
Have a nice day.
~S~
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Re: Numbers on server
By: David. Date: July 5, 2020, 11:05 am
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I would limit the map pool to the classics and some additional
favourites. No variations of the same maps in the voting pool.
Not too many maps. Add new maps tentatively. Some maps are
inevitably over-played, that's counter strike.
I appreciate the problem that some good players ruin the fun for
the noobs. I think the suggested pistol on K/D is a bad idea
though. Personally I think the less game modifications the
better. Recent addition of Mp3 noises has been crashing my game
and causing stuttering. Pure CSS gameplay is best. Worth noting
most noobs could improve significantly if they lowered their
graphics settings, improved their FPS and fixed their
sensitivity settings. Players should never be punished for being
good.
The issue I have with the server is that people don't play the
objective. Some players actually care about rank and K/D ratio,
you can see this in their strategy, particularly when the bomb
is planted to preserve their life, but also constantly typing
'rank' - this applies to a surprising amount of players.
Personally I think rank should be removed, otherwise you get
camping, spawn camping and annoying gameplay to preserve K/D
ratios. I think removing rank should really be considered.
Brings out the worse in some people.
People should be encouraged to play the objective. Camping is
justified when playing the objective.
To summarise;
[list]
[li]Keep Dust2[/li]
[li]Less game modifications[/li]
[li]Remove rank[/li]
[li]Vet maps more before adding them[/li]
[li]Encourage playing the objective[/li]
[/list]
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