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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: admin
       Date: October 16, 2012, 5:46 am
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       That's cool with us , you can continue with your adventure,
       Question has a lefroy mini ever won a national title?
       If so when and where and who was the sailor and what were the
       modifications made and was he,she the only sailor to be not
       lapped by other mini,s in that racing event? ::) :P :P
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: maptco
       Date: October 17, 2012, 8:42 am
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       Not sure what you are talking about. I think the lefroy mini is
       maybe a bit dated but I think the 5.6m concept would allow
       plenty of different design ideas. Personally I am more
       interested in building a class5. You seem to be a bit angry with
       your answers. :-\
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: maptco
       Date: October 23, 2012, 7:57 am
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       I just had a look at seabrease again. The event at Lefroy looks
       like it might have been a great weekend they say some 35plus
       yachts attended. must have there act together. Are the biggest
       clubs in WA or are there similar clubs on the east coast. If
       there is I can not find a site with any info about them
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: admin
       Date: October 30, 2012, 5:29 am
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       It most probably was a great weekend at Lefroy And there is
       plenty more to come ,  the nationals are to be held next year ,
       that will be another great few days , sea breeze is not the be
       end or the end all , it is just a point of view on a commercial
       forum
       Land sailing is a very small sport in Australia , and has very
       few people that are prepaired to do any thing most are quite
       happy to sit back and whinge , and cause as many problems as
       they can .
       That is why there is a new National body , the past committee of
       the old body  couldn't  even follow simple rules on the
       legalities of running an association. They omitted to even pay
       their fee,s !
       One would also have to be aware that it was agreed by of the
       original management that no asociation business was to put on
       Seabreeze  as at was deemed as bad place to comunicate as far as
       the association was concerned , all it did was cause more
       problems as it does to today.
       Refer to the guide lines as stated in the New Forum post nothing
       has changed ,nor will it .
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: maptco
       Date: November 3, 2012, 9:20 pm
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       That's interesting. When I look on the events forum on seabrease
       I can see no conflict just people from all over the world
       discussing up coming and event results. I thought this was
       supposed to be a national association but except that I stumbled
       across it while looking for info on land sailing I would not
       have known that it existed .
       What is the point of this association where the discussion forum
       has three people on it including me. At the very least it would
       make good sense to at least put up your up cumming events and a
       little info about the association on seabrease(not sure if there
       is any other site to get the info out on) It would only have to
       be informative and not a discussion. You say there is a national
       event next year but how can that happen if no one knows about
       it. Room for thought don't you think.
       Maptco
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: admin
       Date: November 3, 2012, 9:49 pm
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       The national association will not have anything to do with
       Seabreeze . The association has its own website and a Facebook
       page . One would assume that that would be enough . Seabreeze
       destroyed the last national body!
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: maptco
       Date: November 5, 2012, 4:01 am
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       Well the best of British luck to you, I can not see how an
       association can exist if no one knows about it. Another
       question, you have quoted a mini class that I can not find any
       thing about. The only minis I can find is the 5.6 rope rule that
       seems to apply accross the world (Europe,Australia, America)
       Where does the class that is mentioned on this site fit into.
       maptco
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: admin
       Date: November 6, 2012, 5:11 am
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       Maptco , I see no reference to any mini class on this site as
       you state, could you please explain as to what you are referring
       to . You would also be able to explain what the ruling is  as
       you reference as a world wide standard, taking into account that
       Australia is not member in any manner or form to any
       international body.
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       Re: Sailing weekends
   DIR By: maptco
       Date: November 6, 2012, 7:33 am
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       I am  Lost. In your classes  this site refers to mini class 1 2
       and 3 as far as I can find out the only mini class recognized by
       fisly and nasa is the 5.6 rope rule mini. I think you may find
       that the mini class association has members in Australia and
       that association is recognized by fisly. This is the info that I
       received from contacts that I have obtained in Europe.  I may
       have got it wrong.
       Dennis Bassano
       The International Miniyacht Class has been added to the list of
       classes that will be contested at the 2014 Worlds in the USA
       (www.nalsa.org) . Is there a link for the official rules of the
       miniyacht class? Are these rules frozen for a time or are they
       subject to change?
       Thanks for the help.
       Welcome Dennis - In Cherrueix the Miniyacht Class Association
       voted for the rules to be frozen for a minimum of 4 years .
       Rules are within the FISLY rules in the ISRR -
  HTML http://www.fisly.com/rules/isrr.pdf
       We have 20 months until the worlds at Smith Creek. Time to start
       building some
       new yachts. Their are 3 classes we need to build boats for. They
       are Promo,
       Filsy class 3 and International 5.6 mini's.
       The mini's had 90 boats in France this summer for the
       championships and more
       are probably coming to the US. the rules for the classs are
       simple
       1. Take a 1/4" rope and make a loop 5.6 meters (220.47 inches)
       long. All of your
       tires must touch the ground inside this loop.
       2. 4.00 x 8 maximum tire size
       3. Mast must be round in section (i.e. no wing masts)
       Everything else is up to you.
       The promo and Class 3 rules are a little more complicated.
       The promo class is huge in europe. at a typical weekend event
       they might get
       100+ yachts and usually have to divide them up into two seperate
       fleets.
       Class three is the most competitive large boat class in europe
       and usually get
       30 to 40 boats on the line.
       All sets of rules can be found at
  HTML http://www.fisly.org/rules/isrr.pdf.
       Come on bulid a boat, represent the USA and dice it up on the
       race course with
       the Euros in 2014.
       See you in the dirt,
       Dennis
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