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       #Post#: 441--------------------------------------------------
       KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: MrSovietOnion Date: July 25, 2013, 4:10 pm
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       So I've been talking this idea over with Noble for a while and
       we both agree that it's a good one - what if I started a
       MineCraft server for you guys? I would host it and I would
       probably make Noble an admin, maybe Devin if he wants. I could
       implement stuff like Bukkit, and all sorts of different plugins.
       Right now I'm thinking this will be more of a survival server,
       but I want to know what you guys think of all this.
       So, what are your thoughts?
       #Post#: 443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: -TheFallenGamer Date: July 25, 2013, 4:19 pm
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       First vote! :D can you try and make it cracked friendly XD  I
       don't really like Minecraft so i don't want to spend money on it
       XD
       #Post#: 449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: TekInFR33 Date: July 25, 2013, 4:47 pm
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       I do not support Minecraft servers for Kogama players. It beats
       the purpose of playing Kogama entirely.
       #Post#: 450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: Puff 13 Date: July 25, 2013, 4:51 pm
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       Eh, I'm kinda neutral here since I don't play minecraft or plan
       to start doing so...but yea tekin made a good point.
       #Post#: 453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: MrSovietOnion Date: July 25, 2013, 4:59 pm
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       [quote author=TekInFR33 link=topic=65.msg449#msg449
       date=1374788838]
       I do not support Minecraft servers for Kogama players. It beats
       the purpose of playing Kogama entirely.
       [/quote]
       It's more based off of the idea that I've found a decent sized
       community of people who enjoy playing building games, and I
       figured that they might be interested in something like this.
       #Post#: 455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: TekInFR33 Date: July 25, 2013, 5:06 pm
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       [quote author=Omniscient One link=topic=65.msg453#msg453
       date=1374789563]
       It's more based off of the idea that I've found a decent sized
       community of people who enjoy playing building games, and I
       figured that they might be interested in something like this.
       [/quote]
       [s]Look at the amount of people who play KoGaMa.
       Now look at the amount of people who enjoy KoGaMa.
       Look at the players who enjoy KoGaMa who also play MineCraft
       (who have accounts)
       You don't see much. You see like, 10 at the most. If you were
       expecting 100, blasphemy.
       Decent sized? Hell, I can't go on multiplayer servers because I
       have the free version.
       I can see 1/3 of all Minecraft players having the free version
       as well, it's not that hard to get.[/s]
       On second thought, it's a great idea. Disregard the other post.
       #Post#: 464--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: MrSovietOnion Date: July 25, 2013, 6:25 pm
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       Well, I appreciate the change of heart, but I'm still going to
       do the math because I can.
       So, the total amount of people that play KoGaMa (assuming you're
       talking only about the US server) comes out to be an exact total
       of 43,349 registered accounts at the moment. Out of that, we're
       going to first find the amount of people that "enjoy" KoGaMa.
       For the sake of simplicity, we'll consider "enjoyment" of the
       game user activity. Now, using the 90-9-1 rule (read about it
       here:
  HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)<br
       />) only 10% of the users in the server actively contribute. Bea
       r
       in mind that this rule applies more to YouTube and Wikipedia
       than a website like this, but we can use some basic reasoning to
       come to that conclusion. This means that approximately 4,335
       users are active. We can assume that they therefore enjoy the
       game. Now, let's take a look at the total amount of people with
       MineCraft accounts. The grand total amount of MineCraft users is
       currently 11,456,000 approximately. This is the amount of people
       that have actually purchased the game. For the purpose of this
       example, let's suppose that, oh, one out of every one hundred
       active KoGaMa players has purchased MineCraft.  This number
       comes out to about 43 players. If you have a server with at
       least 16 players on it, that's still a rather large server for
       the community. But, let's not forget, these people are bound to
       tell others about the server if they enjoy it, and a
       word-of-mouth domino effect comes in to play. Should I and my
       fellow sever operators be dedicated enough, we could potentially
       have a server of over 100 people in a year. All fun aside,
       there's income to be made from that. Mega servers often have
       forums (oh, hey, look, I happen to own one) that have donate
       buttons. As the server grows, I would generate income if I chose
       to grow it that large. I could use the money to possibly make
       the server even larger, and other MineCraft players would learn
       of it. Since it's a KoGaMa-based server, this would make a lot
       of these new users curious and they would, in turn, check out
       KoGaMa. This means that, not only am I generating income for
       myself, but I'm also helping the KoGaMa community by bringing in
       new users. And, everyone can enjoy the server together. We all
       win.
       All arguments are now invalid, have a nice day. (;
       #Post#: 470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: -TheFallenGamer Date: July 25, 2013, 6:36 pm
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       [quote]Well, I appreciate the change of heart, but I'm still
       going to do the math because I can.
       So, the total amount of people that play KoGaMa (assuming you're
       talking only about the US server) comes out to be an exact total
       of 43,349 registered accounts at the moment. Out of that, we're
       going to first find the amount of people that "enjoy" KoGaMa.
       For the sake of simplicity, we'll consider "enjoyment" of the
       game user activity. Now, using the 90-9-1 rule (read about it
       here:
  HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)<br
       />) only 10% of the users in the server actively contribute. Bea
       r
       in mind that this rule applies more to YouTube and Wikipedia
       than a website like this, but we can use some basic reasoning to
       come to that conclusion. This means that approximately 4,335
       users are active. We can assume that they therefore enjoy the
       game. Now, let's take a look at the total amount of people with
       MineCraft accounts. The grand total amount of MineCraft users is
       currently 11,456,000 approximately. This is the amount of people
       that have actually purchased the game. For the purpose of this
       example, let's suppose that, oh, one out of every one hundred
       active KoGaMa players has purchased MineCraft.  This number
       comes out to about 43 players. If you have a server with at
       least 16 players on it, that's still a rather large server for
       the community. But, let's not forget, these people are bound to
       tell others about the server if they enjoy it, and a
       word-of-mouth domino effect comes in to play. Should I and my
       fellow sever operators be dedicated enough, we could potentially
       have a server of over 100 people in a year. All fun aside,
       there's income to be made from that. Mega servers often have
       forums (oh, hey, look, I happen to own one) that have donate
       buttons. As the server grows, I would generate income if I chose
       to grow it that large. I could use the money to possibly make
       the server even larger, and other MineCraft players would learn
       of it. Since it's a KoGaMa-based server, this would make a lot
       of these new users curious and they would, in turn, check out
       KoGaMa. This means that, not only am I generating income for
       myself, but I'm also helping the KoGaMa community by bringing in
       new users. And, everyone can enjoy the server together. We all
       win.
       All arguments are now invalid, have a nice day. (;[/quote]
       That..That there was brilliant :) XD
       #Post#: 472--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: MrSovietOnion Date: July 25, 2013, 8:17 pm
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       [quote author=Puff 13 link=topic=65.msg471#msg471
       date=1374801224]
       And only 51% of those 43 users use the forums so really its only
       23 and only 15 or so are active on this one and now you have to
       take into consideration how many people really have or want to
       create a minecraft account. Now we have 9 or 10.
       [/quote]
       That's still a considerable amount, especially since it costs me
       nothing to run the server.
       #Post#: 474--------------------------------------------------
       Re: KoGaMaCraft - A KoGaMa MineCraft Server!
       By: Puff 13 Date: July 25, 2013, 8:23 pm
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       Well, i've never played minecraft before so I'll take your word
       for it.   I'd like to see how this one plays out though...
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