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       REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD
       By: Captshittu Date: December 18, 2017, 11:28 pm
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       [font=verdana]REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD? [/font]
       Jesus is a figure who is loved and revered by billions of people
       the world over.  Yet there is so much confusion surrounding the
       status of this colossal personality.  Muslims and Christians
       both hold Jesus in high regard but view him in very different
       ways.
       The questions raised in this debate aim to get to the heart of
       the issues surrounding Jesus: IS JESUS GOD?
       We should all know that anything that is created can never be
       God either man, things, Angel, or prophet.
       The question now is «IS JESUS GOD?», before the question will be
       answered we will analyse the relationship between God and Jesus,
       there are lot of evidences to proof that Jesus can never be God,
       but some of it will be discussed here.
       Firstly, Jesus was sent to direct people to worship God only
       Mark 12:29, Mat. 19:17, Luk. 18:19, John 17:3 “And eternal life
       is this: to know you, *the only true God,* and Jesus Christ whom
       you have sent”. This is a clear statement from Jesus, he
       differentiate between him and his Creator, and there are lot of
       verses where Jesus regarded himself and God as two separate
       entities, for example John 8:18 “I testify on my own behalf, but
       the Father who sent me testifies on my behalf, too.”
       John 14:1 "Do not let your hearts be troubled.  Trust in God;
       trust also in me."
       John 14:28 “for the Father is greater than I.” even Jesus agreed
       that God is greater than him.
       Jesus said John 20:17 “I’m going up to my Father and your
       Father, to my God and your God”
       If Jesus was God, He would not have regarded God’s testimony as
       separate from his own, that is why Allah says in Qur'an 2:72
       “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah
       (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)." *But the Messiah (Jesus) said:
       "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.”*
       Is it sensible to say God live inside a woman for good nine
       months and pass through private part of woman to this world?
       when it is mentioned Job 15:14 “What is man, that he should be
       clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be
       righteous?”
       God has no record of genealogy but Jesus has record of genealogy
       Mat. 1:1, which means there is no way a mortal can know record
       of genealogy of God, this to proof that Jesus is not God.
       And also how can a helpless child be God because Mary and Joseph
       received a message from God above to flee with Jesus to Egypt.
       Mat. 2:13.
       There a lot of features of God which no one has but if we can
       see any one or thing that possess this features, that thing can
       be called God, but if it/he lack 1 of it, that thing or person
       can never be God but Jesus lack all features of God, which we
       will know from this debate.
       => God has knowledge over all things but Jesus declared himself
       that he doesn't know the day of judgement, even angels except
       only God (Mark 13:32), can we say someone that is not all
       knowing be God.
       => GOD Almighty can not be tempted (James 1:13) but Jesus was
       tempted by satan (Mat. 1:4)
       => No one can see God and survive (Exo 33:20, 1 John 4:20) but
       thousands of people saw Jesus
       => Jesus referred himself as Son of Man (Matthew 5:9, 17:22,
       8:20, 18:11, 26:2, Luke 9:22, John 5:27) but God is neither a
       man nor a son of a man (Numbers 23:19)
       => God is the most powerful (Psalms 66:3, Q 2:20 but Jesus is
       powerless (John 5:30, 5:19)
       => God does not change: I the Lord do not change.  [Malachi
       3:6:].  Jesus however went through many changes in his life such
       as age, height, weight etc.
       => God is independent (Q112:2) but Jesus depends on God (Mat.
       26:39, John 6:57, Hebrew 5:7)
       => God doesn’t need sleep, food or water (Q2:157) but Jesus
       however ate, drank, slept
       => Jesus agreed that he is not good only God is good (Mark
       10:38, Luke 18:19, Mat 19:17)
       => According to Christian Jesus died as recorded in Matthew
       27:27-56 but Bible says that God is infinite Psalm 102:27-27
       These are just some of the *proofs* within the Bible, which make
       it clear that the nature of Jesus and God is completely
       different.  Some people may claim that Jesus had both a human
       and a divine nature.  This is a claim that Jesus never made, and
       is in clear contradiction to the Bible which maintains that God
       has one nature (Hebrew 1:13).
       What emerges, when we consider the historical and logical facts
       about Jesus’ life, is conclusive proof not only that Jesus
       cannot be God, but that he never claimed to be God, But there is
       not a single verse in the entire Bible in which Jesus says "I am
       God, worship me." But he directed people to worship God only as
       he said in Luke 4:8 “You shall worship the Lord your God, and
       Him only you shall serve.” But God claimed to be God in
       countless verse of the bible and Qur'an. Isaiah 43:3 “For I am
       your Lord, your God, the holy one of isreal, your savior” Qur'an
       18:14 “I am Allah, there is no god but I, therefore worship Me,
       and keep up prayer (salat) for my remembrance”
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       Re: REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD
       By: Knowtheway Date: February 19, 2018, 10:42 pm
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       For those that can think is it possible to say Jesus is God?
       that's what make many Americans to be atheists before ISLAM
       reached them because they can reason and think how can God be a
       Jew why not Fulani or Hindi by tribe, God is not powerful he had
       to come down inform of human being,
       This is uncommon irrational believe that is why we say
       christianity is upon pivoted heresies.
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