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       #Post#: 3371--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: September 7, 2023, 2:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > Should classic pre crisis shazam meet current an new 52 an 52
       an hypertime an zero hr and this mean the wizard, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       I actually could see DC doing a "Crisis of Infinite Shazams"
       story.
       The question is would it be good, and knowing current DC, it
       would not be good.
       #Post#: 3376--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: September 8, 2023, 10:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3370#msg3370
       date=1693960212]Should classic pre crisis shazam meet current an
       new 52 an 52 an hypertime an zero hr and this mean the wizard,
       what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       I actually could see DC doing a "Crisis of Infinite Shazams"
       story.
       The question is would it be good, and knowing current DC, it
       would not be good.
       [/quote]What attributes would be gained from frankenstein
       monster, dracula creature from the black lagoon, werewolf,
       zombie and such if they combined their power, what would their
       attributes be? Should the pre crisis shazam come to current
       version of dc an face current shazam wizard an same with
       hypertime shazam, an such, an pre crisis shazam gathers items of
       power to increase pre crisis captain marvel power, what ya
       think? Also should mary be given offer by the cosmic entities of
       dc to keep her current power or be given greater power than any
       version of her ever known, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: September 13, 2023, 3:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > What attributes would be gained from frankenstein monster,
       dracula creature from the black lagoon, werewolf, zombie and
       such if they combined their power, what would their attributes
       be?
       --- End Quote ---
       Frankenstein's strength, Dracula's flight, Gillman's underwater
       breathing, Werewolf's invincibility, and Zombie's endurance.
       --- Quote ---
       > Should the pre crisis shazam come to current version of dc an
       face current shazam wizard an same with hypertime shazam, an
       such, an pre crisis shazam gathers items of power to increase
       pre crisis captain marvel power, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       Pre-Crisis Shazam is already more powerful than current Shazam,
       so he would win way too easily if he increased his power.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also should mary be given offer by the cosmic entities of dc
       to keep her current power or be given greater power than any
       version of her ever known, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       There is no reason for that, so no.
       #Post#: 3428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: September 22, 2023, 2:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3376#msg3376
       date=1694185806]What attributes would be gained from
       frankenstein monster, dracula creature from the black lagoon,
       werewolf, zombie and such if they combined their power, what
       would their attributes be?
       --- End Quote ---
       Frankenstein's strength, Dracula's flight, Gillman's underwater
       breathing, Werewolf's invincibility, and Zombie's endurance.
       --- Quote ---
       > Should the pre crisis shazam come to current version of dc an
       face current shazam wizard an same with hypertime shazam, an
       such, an pre crisis shazam gathers items of power to increase
       pre crisis captain marvel power, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       Pre-Crisis Shazam is already more powerful than current Shazam,
       so he would win way too easily if he increased his power.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also should mary be given offer by the cosmic entities of dc
       to keep her current power or be given greater power than any
       version of her ever known, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       There is no reason for that, so no.
       [/quote]actually if mary is offered power by the dc cosmic
       entities she could use word shazam to get their power, what ya
       think? I am surprised dc has actually brought back zha-vam an
       mary beat the crap out of him, i wonder if dc has future plans
       for zha-vam?
       #Post#: 3459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: September 29, 2023, 5:12 pm
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       Should each member except for the 3 who replaced lt marvels get
       power from different set of gods, what ya think? An should the
       lt marvels return an be repowered? An also should the lt marvels
       each get seperate gods? An should shazam do what he did to
       superman in dc vs mortal kombat, an take him to his gods an
       given upgraded powers, an remove his kryptonite weakness an red
       sun weakness an magic weakness an then shazam is summoned by the
       elder gods of mortal kombat an given their power, what ya think?
       Basically superman retain his own power but then thanks to
       shazam, superman gets his power and the elder gods then give
       them their power to shazam! Also I do think mary marvel deserves
       a totally perment update and upgrade an get all the cosmic
       entities and gods and demons an such power is this good or bad
       idea to make mary into a goddess, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3491--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: October 16, 2023, 3:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > Should each member except for the 3 who replaced lt marvels
       get power from different set of gods, what ya think?  An should
       the lt marvels return an be repowered? An also should the lt
       marvels each get seperate gods?
       --- End Quote ---
       I think it's needless.  They have the power they require
       already.
       --- Quote ---
       > An should shazam do what he did to superman in dc vs mortal
       kombat, an take him to his gods an given upgraded powers, an
       remove his kryptonite weakness an red sun weakness an magic
       weakness an then shazam is summoned by the elder gods of mortal
       kombat an given their power, what ya think? Basically superman
       retain his own power but then thanks to shazam, superman gets
       his power and the elder gods then give them their power to
       shazam!
       --- End Quote ---
       Shazam doesn't have the six gods on his phone, he can't just
       randomly take Superman to them whenever he feels like it.  And
       the gods can't just make Superman invincible because if they
       could do that, they would have made Shazam himself invincible
       already.  And Mortal Kombat has nothing to do with DC
       continuity, that would require corporate permission that DC does
       not have, DC vs. Mortal Kombat was a licensing deal purposefully
       because the video game was supplemental material not meant to be
       in continuity.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also I do think mary marvel deserves a totally perment update
       and upgrade an get all the cosmic entities and gods and demons
       an such power is this good or bad idea to make mary into a
       goddess, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       I think Mary Marvel being a goddess would make her different
       than who she has always been and readers like their characters
       the way they already are.  Gods are generally uninteresting
       characters, which is why most of them end up giving their powers
       to mortals, because mortals are compelling to readers.
       #Post#: 3535--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: October 26, 2023, 4:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3459#msg3459
       date=1696025575]Should each member except for the 3 who replaced
       lt marvels get power from different set of gods, what ya think?
       An should the lt marvels return an be repowered? An also should
       the lt marvels each get seperate gods?
       --- End Quote ---
       I think it's needless.  They have the power they require
       already.
       --- Quote ---
       > An should shazam do what he did to superman in dc vs mortal
       kombat, an take him to his gods an given upgraded powers, an
       remove his kryptonite weakness an red sun weakness an magic
       weakness an then shazam is summoned by the elder gods of mortal
       kombat an given their power, what ya think? Basically superman
       retain his own power but then thanks to shazam, superman gets
       his power and the elder gods then give them their power to
       shazam!
       --- End Quote ---
       Shazam doesn't have the six gods on his phone, he can't just
       randomly take Superman to them whenever he feels like it.  And
       the gods can't just make Superman invincible because if they
       could do that, they would have made Shazam himself invincible
       already.  And Mortal Kombat has nothing to do with DC
       continuity, that would require corporate permission that DC does
       not have, DC vs. Mortal Kombat was a licensing deal purposefully
       because the video game was supplemental material not meant to be
       in continuity.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also I do think mary marvel deserves a totally perment update
       and upgrade an get all the cosmic entities and gods and demons
       an such power is this good or bad idea to make mary into a
       goddess, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       I think Mary Marvel being a goddess would make her different
       than who she has always been and readers like their characters
       the way they already are.  Gods are generally uninteresting
       characters, which is why most of them end up giving their powers
       to mortals, because mortals are compelling to readers.
       [/quote]What i was think billy, mary, freddy an the lt marvels
       return but each like billy has the greek gods, mary get norse,
       freddy get americam gods, tall marvel get canadian gods, hill
       marvel get itallian gods, fat marvel get mexican gods, but the 3
       current marvels are permently depowered, what ya think? Also
       should ibac have 2 new evils added to ibac spell an same with
       sabbac, an the pre crisis black adam return with one new god
       added, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3538--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: October 26, 2023, 8:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > What i was think billy, mary, freddy an the lt marvels return
       but each like billy has the greek gods, mary get norse, freddy
       get americam gods, tall marvel get canadian gods, hill marvel
       get itallian gods, fat marvel get mexican gods, but the 3
       current marvels are permently depowered, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       Not every country has their own mythological gods.
       There are no American or Canadian ones, and Italy's are the
       Roman gods.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also should ibac have 2 new evils added to ibac spell an same
       with sabbac, an the pre crisis black adam return with one new
       god added, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       Nobody needs any more gods, their power set already covers every
       major ability.
       #Post#: 3541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: October 28, 2023, 4:58 am
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3535#msg3535
       date=1698356707]What i was think billy, mary, freddy an the lt
       marvels return but each like billy has the greek gods, mary get
       norse, freddy get americam gods, tall marvel get canadian gods,
       hill marvel get itallian gods, fat marvel get mexican gods, but
       the 3 current marvels are permently depowered, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       Not every country has their own mythological gods.
       There are no American or Canadian ones, and Italy's are the
       Roman gods.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also should ibac have 2 new evils added to ibac spell an same
       with sabbac, an the pre crisis black adam return with one new
       god added, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       Nobody needs any more gods, their power set already covers every
       major ability.
       [/quote]I do know the american indians consider the raven as a
       god! I was just asking if ibac should be updated an same with
       sabbac an black adam of pre crisis version an current version of
       ibac an sabbac an the pre crisis sabbac an ibac an black adam
       are released on current dc, so should those versions return?
       #Post#: 3562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: November 3, 2023, 2:05 am
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > I was just asking if ibac should be updated an same with
       sabbac an black adam of pre crisis version an current version of
       ibac an sabbac an the pre crisis sabbac an ibac an black adam
       are released on current dc, so should those versions return?
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  They were phased out for a reason.
       There are more to comic stories than just powers, Kipp.
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