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       #Post#: 3014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: April 24, 2023, 3:24 am
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg2996#msg2996
       date=1682105340]What attributes would shazam gain from captain
       america, thor, hulk, antman, scarlet witch, quicksilver[/quote]
       Cap's agility, Thor's flight, Hulk's strength, Ant-Man's size,
       Scarlet Witch's magic and Quicksilver's speed.
       [quote]what attributes would shazam gain from hawkman, superman,
       wonder woman, batman, flash, green lantern?[/quote]
       Superman's strength, Batman's genius, Wonder Woman's agility,
       The Flash's speed, Green Lantern's imagination and Hawkman's
       flight.
       [quote]Also should captain america, hulk, antman, thor, scarlet
       witch, quicksilver, superman, wonder woman, batman, flash, green
       lantern, hawkman be transformed permently into new gods, and
       then join their power and pick someone to be their
       champion?[/quote]
       Nope.
       [quote]When captain america and captain marvel jr were
       agmalgamed and said uncle same what were the presidents from
       them and what attributes did he gain from them?[/quote]
       Clinton.
       #Post#: 3024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: April 27, 2023, 4:17 pm
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       [quote author=Drago link=topic=99.msg3014#msg3014
       date=1682324672]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg2996#msg2996
       date=1682105340]What attributes would shazam gain from captain
       america, thor, hulk, antman, scarlet witch, quicksilver[/quote]
       Cap's agility, Thor's flight, Hulk's strength, Ant-Man's size,
       Scarlet Witch's magic and Quicksilver's speed.
       [quote]what attributes would shazam gain from hawkman, superman,
       wonder woman, batman, flash, green lantern?[/quote]
       Superman's strength, Batman's genius, Wonder Woman's agility,
       The Flash's speed, Green Lantern's imagination and Hawkman's
       flight.
       [quote]Also should captain america, hulk, antman, thor, scarlet
       witch, quicksilver, superman, wonder woman, batman, flash, green
       lantern, hawkman be transformed permently into new gods, and
       then join their power and pick someone to be their
       champion?[/quote]
       Nope.
       [quote]When captain america and captain marvel jr were
       agmalgamed and said uncle same what were the presidents from
       them and what attributes did he gain from them?[/quote]
       Clinton.
       [/quote]So what were the attributes of captain america
       jr(captain america and captain marvel jr) and which clinton? So
       is it time a new shazam spell be made using various characters
       from pre crisis to now, that include all warner bros discovery
       properties, what ya think? Should mary be made goddess of all
       gods, what ya think? So if these characters lent their power,
       what attributes would someone gain from beast before he went
       bad, vision, wasp, captain america, wonderman, ms marvel/captain
       marvel, jocasta, yellowjacket, ironman , hawkeye, thor, scarlet
       witch, blob, avalanche, pyro mystique, destiny, rogue,
       spiderwoman, wolverine, nightcrawler, storm, kitty pryde,
       professor x before he went bad so what would the person get from
       them? So should shazam spell be expanded to silent knight,
       shining knight, viking prince, viking commando, the vigilante,
       valda the iron maiden, known soldier, arak, arion, atomic knigt,
       black pirate, claw, gi robot, kana, nightmaster, scalphunter,
       son of vulcan, stalker, dragonsword, blue beetle, electric
       warrior, wild dog, vigilante, an morethat mean all their power
       and weapons an abilities an skill an more, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: June 14, 2023, 10:38 am
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3024#msg3024
       date=1682630225]
       [quote author=Drago link=topic=99.msg3014#msg3014
       date=1682324672]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg2996#msg2996
       date=1682105340]What attributes would shazam gain from captain
       america, thor, hulk, antman, scarlet witch, quicksilver[/quote]
       Cap's agility, Thor's flight, Hulk's strength, Ant-Man's size,
       Scarlet Witch's magic and Quicksilver's speed.
       [quote]what attributes would shazam gain from hawkman, superman,
       wonder woman, batman, flash, green lantern?[/quote]
       Superman's strength, Batman's genius, Wonder Woman's agility,
       The Flash's speed, Green Lantern's imagination and Hawkman's
       flight.
       [quote]Also should captain america, hulk, antman, thor, scarlet
       witch, quicksilver, superman, wonder woman, batman, flash, green
       lantern, hawkman be transformed permently into new gods, and
       then join their power and pick someone to be their
       champion?[/quote]
       Nope.
       [quote]When captain america and captain marvel jr were
       agmalgamed and said uncle same what were the presidents from
       them and what attributes did he gain from them?[/quote]
       Clinton.
       [/quote]So what were the attributes of captain america
       jr(captain america and captain marvel jr) and which clinton? So
       is it time a new shazam spell be made using various characters
       from pre crisis to now, that include all warner bros discovery
       properties, what ya think? Should mary be made goddess of all
       gods, what ya think? So if these characters lent their power,
       what attributes would someone gain from beast before he went
       bad, vision, wasp, captain america, wonderman, ms marvel/captain
       marvel, jocasta, yellowjacket, ironman , hawkeye, thor, scarlet
       witch, blob, avalanche, pyro mystique, destiny, rogue,
       spiderwoman, wolverine, nightcrawler, storm, kitty pryde,
       professor x before he went bad so what would the person get from
       them? So should shazam spell be expanded to silent knight,
       shining knight, viking prince, viking commando, the vigilante,
       valda the iron maiden, known soldier, arak, arion, atomic knigt,
       black pirate, claw, gi robot, kana, nightmaster, scalphunter,
       son of vulcan, stalker, dragonsword, blue beetle, electric
       warrior, wild dog, vigilante, an morethat mean all their power
       and weapons an abilities an skill an more, what ya think?
       [/quote]So ya know this was on captain america jr a amalgam of
       captain america and caotain marvel so i was wonderoing what
       attributes he got from the presidents and whch clinton was
       included! Basically the expanded shazam spell would include
       viking commander, silent knight, arion the magician an such and
       add their power an abilities and skill an such to new expanded
       shazam spell!  So should Zha-vam be restored by the gods and
       cosmic entities to modern world updated and upgraded what ya
       think?
       #Post#: 3109--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: June 14, 2023, 2:48 pm
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3024#msg3024
       date=1682630225]So what were the attributes of captain america
       jr(captain america and captain marvel jr) and which
       clinton?[/quote]President Clinton.
       [quote]So is it time a new shazam spell be made using various
       characters from pre crisis to now, that include all warner bros
       discovery properties, what ya think?[/quote]No.
       Companies can't just borrow from every division of their
       corporate parent whenever they want, it takes too much time and
       Warner Bros. is too busy to worry about small-scale things like
       one DC Comics story.
       [quote]Should mary be made goddess of all gods, what ya
       think?[/quote]Why should Mary be made better than everyone else?
       [quote]So if these characters lent their power, what attributes
       would someone gain from beast before he went bad, vision, wasp,
       captain america, wonderman, ms marvel/captain marvel, jocasta,
       yellowjacket, ironman , hawkeye, thor, scarlet witch, blob,
       avalanche, pyro mystique, destiny, rogue, spiderwoman,
       wolverine, nightcrawler, storm, kitty pryde, professor x before
       he went bad so what would the person get from
       them?[/quote]Beast's agility, Vision's radar, Wasp's shrinking,
       Cap's courage, Wonder Man's strength, Captain Marvel's flight,
       Jocasta's technokinesis, Yellowjacket's super-hearing, Iron
       Man's force beams, Hawkeye's accuracy, Thor's lightning, Scarlet
       Witch's magic, Blob's durability, Avalanche's cryokinesis,
       Pyro's pyrokinesis, Destiny's premonitions, Rogue's temporary
       power absorption, Spider-Woman's webbing, Wolverine's healing
       factor, Nightcrawler's teleportation, Storm's weather
       manipulation, Kitty's phasing, and Xavier's telepathy.
       [quote]So should shazam spell be expanded to silent knight,
       shining knight, viking prince, viking commando, the vigilante,
       valda the iron maiden, known soldier, arak, arion, atomic knigt,
       black pirate, claw, gi robot, kana, nightmaster, scalphunter,
       son of vulcan, stalker, dragonsword, blue beetle, electric
       warrior, wild dog, vigilante, an morethat mean all their power
       and weapons an abilities an skill an more, what ya
       think?[/quote]No, because that word would take too long to say.
       LOL
       #Post#: 3111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: June 14, 2023, 6:31 pm
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       [quote author=Drago link=topic=99.msg3109#msg3109
       date=1686772098]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3024#msg3024
       date=1682630225]So what were the attributes of captain america
       jr(captain america and captain marvel jr) and which
       clinton?[/quote]President Clinton.
       [quote]So is it time a new shazam spell be made using various
       characters from pre crisis to now, that include all warner bros
       discovery properties, what ya think?[/quote]No.
       Companies can't just borrow from every division of their
       corporate parent whenever they want, it takes too much time and
       Warner Bros. is too busy to worry about small-scale things like
       one DC Comics story.
       [quote]Should mary be made goddess of all gods, what ya
       think?[/quote]Why should Mary be made better than everyone else?
       [quote]So if these characters lent their power, what attributes
       would someone gain from beast before he went bad, vision, wasp,
       captain america, wonderman, ms marvel/captain marvel, jocasta,
       yellowjacket, ironman , hawkeye, thor, scarlet witch, blob,
       avalanche, pyro mystique, destiny, rogue, spiderwoman,
       wolverine, nightcrawler, storm, kitty pryde, professor x before
       he went bad so what would the person get from
       them?[/quote]Beast's agility, Vision's radar, Wasp's shrinking,
       Cap's courage, Wonder Man's strength, Captain Marvel's flight,
       Jocasta's technokinesis, Yellowjacket's super-hearing, Iron
       Man's force beams, Hawkeye's accuracy, Thor's lightning, Scarlet
       Witch's magic, Blob's durability, Avalanche's cryokinesis,
       Pyro's pyrokinesis, Destiny's premonitions, Rogue's temporary
       power absorption, Spider-Woman's webbing, Wolverine's healing
       factor, Nightcrawler's teleportation, Storm's weather
       manipulation, Kitty's phasing, and Xavier's telepathy.
       [quote]So should shazam spell be expanded to silent knight,
       shining knight, viking prince, viking commando, the vigilante,
       valda the iron maiden, known soldier, arak, arion, atomic knigt,
       black pirate, claw, gi robot, kana, nightmaster, scalphunter,
       son of vulcan, stalker, dragonsword, blue beetle, electric
       warrior, wild dog, vigilante, an morethat mean all their power
       and weapons an abilities an skill an more, what ya
       think?[/quote]No, because that word would take too long to say.
       LOL
       [/quote]So they can keep word shazam and just merge everyone i
       said into shazam and then he give all their power and skills and
       abilities and more to mary!
       #Post#: 3179--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: July 6, 2023, 7:30 pm
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3111#msg3111
       date=1686785483]
       [quote author=Drago link=topic=99.msg3109#msg3109
       date=1686772098]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3024#msg3024
       date=1682630225]So what were the attributes of captain america
       jr(captain america and captain marvel jr) and which
       clinton?[/quote]President Clinton.
       [quote]So is it time a new shazam spell be made using various
       characters from pre crisis to now, that include all warner bros
       discovery properties, what ya think?[/quote]No.
       Companies can't just borrow from every division of their
       corporate parent whenever they want, it takes too much time and
       Warner Bros. is too busy to worry about small-scale things like
       one DC Comics story.
       [quote]Should mary be made goddess of all gods, what ya
       think?[/quote]Why should Mary be made better than everyone else?
       [quote]So if these characters lent their power, what attributes
       would someone gain from beast before he went bad, vision, wasp,
       captain america, wonderman, ms marvel/captain marvel, jocasta,
       yellowjacket, ironman , hawkeye, thor, scarlet witch, blob,
       avalanche, pyro mystique, destiny, rogue, spiderwoman,
       wolverine, nightcrawler, storm, kitty pryde, professor x before
       he went bad so what would the person get from
       them?[/quote]Beast's agility, Vision's radar, Wasp's shrinking,
       Cap's courage, Wonder Man's strength, Captain Marvel's flight,
       Jocasta's technokinesis, Yellowjacket's super-hearing, Iron
       Man's force beams, Hawkeye's accuracy, Thor's lightning, Scarlet
       Witch's magic, Blob's durability, Avalanche's cryokinesis,
       Pyro's pyrokinesis, Destiny's premonitions, Rogue's temporary
       power absorption, Spider-Woman's webbing, Wolverine's healing
       factor, Nightcrawler's teleportation, Storm's weather
       manipulation, Kitty's phasing, and Xavier's telepathy.
       [quote]So should shazam spell be expanded to silent knight,
       shining knight, viking prince, viking commando, the vigilante,
       valda the iron maiden, known soldier, arak, arion, atomic knigt,
       black pirate, claw, gi robot, kana, nightmaster, scalphunter,
       son of vulcan, stalker, dragonsword, blue beetle, electric
       warrior, wild dog, vigilante, an morethat mean all their power
       and weapons an abilities an skill an more, what ya
       think?[/quote]No, because that word would take too long to say.
       LOL
       [/quote]So they can keep word shazam and just merge everyone i
       said into shazam and then he give all their power and skills and
       abilities and more to mary!
       [/quote]Would kindness and intelligence work as shazam
       attributes? Should these other attributes be added to mary
       marvel, dominion, magic, justice, strength, love, courage,
       foresight, power, knowledge, flight, depth, persistence, wisdom,
       grace, stamina, skill, power, speed, beauty, fleetness,
       swiftness, flame, archery skill, guile, loyalty, bravery, light,
       connection, darkness, war skill, compassion, vigor, toughness,
       tenacity, fire, source manipulation, boldness, ligtning,
       aptitude, kindness, intelligence, instinct, perception, bifrost
       manipulation, endurance, plant maipulation, healing, cunning,
       intuition, will power, shape shifting, water manipulation,
       adaptivity, ambition, creativity, honor, heart, tender, amiable,
       wonderful, nice, youthful, trickery, strategy, courteousness,
       war, peace what ya think? What attributes does she gain from
       hippolyra, shipra, huldah, abigail, asenath, miriam and should
       those attributes be added to what i said and what does she gain
       from them? What attribute did he captain america jr gain from
       clinton and carter and ulysses s grant and should that be given
       to mary? Also what atributes would mary get from a entaur, thor,
       mars, ajax, gorgon, iris, jason, morpheus, orion, pluto,
       phaeton, siva, titain, pan, sol, uranus, balder, cyclop, dragon,
       frost giant so what would she gain?
       #Post#: 3188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: July 10, 2023, 3:42 pm
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3179#msg3179
       date=1688689846]Would kindness and intelligence work as shazam
       attributes?[/quote]He already gains intelligence through
       Solomon.
       And kindness is the reason Billy exists.  If kindness could be
       granted, there wouldn't be any reason for a human host for
       Shazam's power in the first place.
       [quote]Should these other attributes be added to mary marvel,
       dominion, magic, justice, strength, love, courage, foresight,
       power, knowledge, flight, depth, persistence, wisdom, grace,
       stamina, skill, power, speed, beauty, fleetness, swiftness,
       flame, archery skill, guile, loyalty, bravery, light,
       connection, darkness, war skill, compassion, vigor, toughness,
       tenacity, fire, source manipulation, boldness, ligtning,
       aptitude, kindness, intelligence, instinct, perception, bifrost
       manipulation, endurance, plant maipulation, healing, cunning,
       intuition, will power, shape shifting, water manipulation,
       adaptivity, ambition, creativity, honor, heart, tender, amiable,
       wonderful, nice, youthful, trickery, strategy, courteousness,
       war, peace what ya think?[/quote]Half of what you've mentioned
       are already covered by other attributes, some of which Lady
       Shazam already has.
       And the last thing any hero needs is EVERYTHING, it's not
       compelling when there isn't a single problem one person can't
       solve by themselves.  Comic books are stories first, not simply
       wish fulfillment given illustration.
       [quote]What attributes does she gain from hippolyra, shipra,
       huldah, abigail, asenath, miriam and should those attributes be
       added to what i said and what does she gain from
       them?[/quote]Selene's agiity, Hippolyta's strength, Artemis's
       stamina, Zephyrus's flight, Aurora's invulnerability, and
       Minerva's wisdom.  The other five you mentioned aren't part of
       the spell.
       [quote]What attribute did he captain america jr gain from
       clinton and carter and ulysses s grant and should that be given
       to mary?[/quote]We never learned which presidents Captain
       America Jr. draws his power from past the first three: Ulysses,
       Nixon and Coolidge.  We certainly never learned what attributes
       they bestowed.
       He was a joke character from the Amalgam universe.
       [quote]Also what atributes would mary get from a entaur, thor,
       mars, ajax, gorgon, iris, jason, morpheus, orion, pluto,
       phaeton, siva, titain, pan, sol, uranus, balder, cyclop, dragon,
       frost giant so what would she gain?[/quote]The spell comes from
       Greek and Roman gods.  Norse gods and random monsters aren't
       part of the spell.
       #Post#: 3204--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: July 10, 2023, 4:41 pm
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       [quote author=Drago link=topic=99.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1689021768]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3179#msg3179
       date=1688689846]Would kindness and intelligence work as shazam
       attributes?[/quote]He already gains intelligence through
       Solomon.
       And kindness is the reason Billy exists.  If kindness could be
       granted, there wouldn't be any reason for a human host for
       Shazam's power in the first place.
       [quote]Should these other attributes be added to mary marvel,
       dominion, magic, justice, strength, love, courage, foresight,
       power, knowledge, flight, depth, persistence, wisdom, grace,
       stamina, skill, power, speed, beauty, fleetness, swiftness,
       flame, archery skill, guile, loyalty, bravery, light,
       connection, darkness, war skill, compassion, vigor, toughness,
       tenacity, fire, source manipulation, boldness, ligtning,
       aptitude, kindness, intelligence, instinct, perception, bifrost
       manipulation, endurance, plant maipulation, healing, cunning,
       intuition, will power, shape shifting, water manipulation,
       adaptivity, ambition, creativity, honor, heart, tender, amiable,
       wonderful, nice, youthful, trickery, strategy, courteousness,
       war, peace what ya think?[/quote]Half of what you've mentioned
       are already covered by other attributes, some of which Lady
       Shazam already has.
       And the last thing any hero needs is EVERYTHING, it's not
       compelling when there isn't a single problem one person can't
       solve by themselves.  Comic books are stories first, not simply
       wish fulfillment given illustration.
       [quote]What attributes does she gain from hippolyra, shipra,
       huldah, abigail, asenath, miriam and should those attributes be
       added to what i said and what does she gain from
       them?[/quote]Selene's agiity, Hippolyta's strength, Artemis's
       stamina, Zephyrus's flight, Aurora's invulnerability, and
       Minerva's wisdom.  The other five you mentioned aren't part of
       the spell.
       [quote]What attribute did he captain america jr gain from
       clinton and carter and ulysses s grant and should that be given
       to mary?[/quote]We never learned which presidents Captain
       America Jr. draws his power from past the first three: Ulysses,
       Nixon and Coolidge.  We certainly never learned what attributes
       they bestowed.
       He was a joke character from the Amalgam universe.
       [quote]Also what atributes would mary get from a entaur, thor,
       mars, ajax, gorgon, iris, jason, morpheus, orion, pluto,
       phaeton, siva, titain, pan, sol, uranus, balder, cyclop, dragon,
       frost giant so what would she gain?[/quote]The spell comes from
       Greek and Roman gods.  Norse gods and random monsters aren't
       part of the spell.
       [/quote]Shiprah an abigail an suchan were jewish gods were what
       mary had in dc bomb shell an centaur an thor an such created a
       champion called zha-vam and had their power an to counter
       superman had belt made with gods power as counter to zha-vam an
       his gods and belt! I do feel it time to totally update and
       upgrade mary in everyway, is that a bad idea? If fred and
       daphane and scooby were given shazam powwer what would their
       magic words be and what goods would power them?
       #Post#: 3220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: July 15, 2023, 12:55 am
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3204#msg3204
       date=1689025309]I do feel it time to totally update and upgrade
       mary in everyway, is that a bad idea?[/quote]No, unless you
       completely change her personality.  Personality changes have
       never made comic book fans happy.
       [quote]If fred and daphane and scooby were given shazam powwer
       what would their magic words be and what goods would power
       them?[/quote]The magic word would be "Roo" and the gods that
       powered them would be gods of snacks.
       #Post#: 3226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and potent
       ial
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: July 17, 2023, 3:14 pm
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       [quote author=Drago link=topic=99.msg3220#msg3220
       date=1689400522]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg3204#msg3204
       date=1689025309]I do feel it time to totally update and upgrade
       mary in everyway, is that a bad idea?[/quote]No, unless you
       completely change her personality.  Personality changes have
       never made comic book fans happy.
       [quote]If fred and daphane and scooby were given shazam powwer
       what would their magic words be and what goods would power
       them?[/quote]The magic word would be "Roo" and the gods that
       powered them would be gods of snacks.
       [/quote]What would the attributes be if (01.)ironman, (02.)hulk,
       (03.)thor, (04.)captain america, (05.)hawkeye, (06.)falcon,
       (07.)spider-man, (08.)green goblin,  (09.)doctor octopus,
       (10.)wolverine, (11.)cyclops, (12.)storm, (13.)colossus,
       (14.)beast, (15.)mystique,(16.)havok, (17.)banshee,
       (18.)professor x, (19.)nightcrawler, (20.)phoenix, (21.)magneto,
       (22.)thing, (23.)human torch, (24.)mr fantastic, (25.)invisible
       woman, (26.)dr doom, (27.)silver surfer, (28.)luke cage,
       (29.)nova, (30.)ghost rider gave their power to someone,? Also
       serious what would daphane and fred and scooby magic words be
       and what gods would empower them and what attributes would thet
       get? Should a change be made in shazam spell an change it to
       shazamo with o meaning odin, what ya think?
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