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       #Post#: 4422--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: August 24, 2024, 5:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg4361#msg4361
       date=1721831155]If I get this right your saying the second rock
       pf eternity that sivana built was just as magical as the
       original rock of eternity am i right on this?
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes.  The second rock wasn't "techno magic", it's just magic
       that was created by technology.
       If Dr. Strange made a TV remote appear, that wouldn't make
       anything about that TV remote magical, it would just be a
       regular old TV remote.  The only difference would be that
       instead of being made in a factory, it was made through a spell.
       --- Quote ---
       > Well in marvel techno magic is magic an science mixed together
       as one hence some want dc to  create a variation of shazam using
       that poweer what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       There's not a difference, though.  That's what I keep trying to
       tell you.
       A "techno" Shazam wouldn't be any stronger than Shazam is now,
       he'd just have techno stuff about him.  More stuff doesn't make
       you stronger, it just gives you more stuff to do.
       --- Quote ---
       > I am surprised no one has learned secret of the shazam spell
       an how to recreate it using other gods of other parthenons what
       ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       They did.  You just brought up Zha-Vam, that was a recreation of
       the Shazam spell.
       [/quote]SHould billy an company rebuild the second rock of
       eternity to enhance their power further?
       #Post#: 4442--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: September 3, 2024, 3:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > SHould billy an company rebuild the second rock of eternity to
       enhance their power further?
       --- End Quote ---
       You can't just "rebuild" a magical rock like that.  It's a
       difficult and time-consuming venture.
       And Shazam doesn't need to enhance his power, so it's also a
       needless venture.
       #Post#: 4459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: September 5, 2024, 3:34 am
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
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       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg4422#msg4422
       date=1724494346]SHould billy an company rebuild the second rock
       of eternity to enhance their power further?
       --- End Quote ---
       You can't just "rebuild" a magical rock like that.  It's a
       difficult and time-consuming venture.
       And Shazam doesn't need to enhance his power, so it's also a
       needless venture.
       [/quote]The second rock of eternity could easilly be rebuilt by
       gathering zantanna, constantine, dr fate an several other magic
       people to combine power to recreate the second rock of eternity
       an permently station someone there to act a second wizard of
       shazam an some still think an feel billy an company except pedro
       an company an they want the 3 lt marvels back an want shazam to
       go next level power what ya think? What are 6 items of power in
       dc an 6 items of power in marvel that could give equal power
       equivelent to shazam power? should the 12 items from avnegeran
       justice league be combined into one with all their power then
       give mary access to it what ya think?
       #Post#: 4480--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: October 3, 2024, 5:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > The second rock of eternity could easilly be rebuilt by
       gathering zantanna, constantine, dr fate an several other magic
       people to combine power to recreate the second rock of eternity
       an permently station someone there to act a second wizard of
       shazam an some still think an feel billy an company except pedro
       an company an they want the 3 lt marvels back an want shazam to
       go next level power what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       That's not how magic works.  If it did, those heroes could just
       create a world where evil doesn't even exist and peace lasts
       forever.
       And magic doesn't mix, the more power you draw from different
       sources causes distortion to reality.  Like how warm air mixing
       with cold air creates hurricanes.
       --- Quote ---
       > What are 6 items of power in dc an 6 items of power in marvel
       that could give equal power equivelent to shazam power?
       --- End Quote ---
       The Olympians are already that in the DC universe, that's how
       they created Zha-Vam.
       And the Infinity Stones already grant power far greater than
       that of Shazam.
       --- Quote ---
       > should the 12 items from avnegeran justice league be combined
       into one with all their power then give mary access to it what
       ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't know what that Justice League is.
       #Post#: 4511--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: October 12, 2024, 5:30 am
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg4459#msg4459
       date=1725525272]The second rock of eternity could easilly be
       rebuilt by gathering zantanna, constantine, dr fate an several
       other magic people to combine power to recreate the second rock
       of eternity an permently station someone there to act a second
       wizard of shazam an some still think an feel billy an company
       except pedro an company an they want the 3 lt marvels back an
       want shazam to go next level power what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       That's not how magic works.  If it did, those heroes could just
       create a world where evil doesn't even exist and peace lasts
       forever.
       And magic doesn't mix, the more power you draw from different
       sources causes distortion to reality.  Like how warm air mixing
       with cold air creates hurricanes.
       --- Quote ---
       > What are 6 items of power in dc an 6 items of power in marvel
       that could give equal power equivelent to shazam power?
       --- End Quote ---
       The Olympians are already that in the DC universe, that's how
       they created Zha-Vam.
       And the Infinity Stones already grant power far greater than
       that of Shazam.
       --- Quote ---
       > should the 12 items from avnegeran justice league be combined
       into one with all their power then give mary access to it what
       ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't know what that Justice League is.
       [/quote]I mean what were the 12 items 6 of them from dc an 6
       from marvel in avengers/justice league crossover what were they
       an should the items be made into one? Should a chrome lantenr be
       created?
       #Post#: 4514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: October 13, 2024, 4:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > I mean what were the 12 items 6 of them from dc an 6 from
       marvel in avengers/justice league crossover what were they an
       should the items be made into one?
       --- End Quote ---
       DC's were the Green Lanterns power battery; the Spear of
       Destiny; the Medusa Mask; the Eternity Book; the Orb of Ra; and
       The Bell, Wheel and Jar.  Marvel's were the Infinity Gems; the
       Cosmic Cube; the Wand of Watoom; the Ultimate Nullifier; the
       Evil Eye; and the Casket of the Ancient Warriors.
       --- Quote ---
       > Should a chrome lantenr be created?
       --- End Quote ---
       Chrome is colored gray, we already have a Gray Lantern.
       #Post#: 4521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: October 14, 2024, 4:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
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       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg4511#msg4511
       date=1728729033]I mean what were the 12 items 6 of them from dc
       an 6 from marvel in avengers/justice league crossover what were
       they an should the items be made into one?
       --- End Quote ---
       DC's were the Green Lanterns power battery; the Spear of
       Destiny; the Medusa Mask; the Eternity Book; the Orb of Ra; and
       The Bell, Wheel and Jar.  Marvel's were the Infinity Gems; the
       Cosmic Cube; the Wand of Watoom; the Ultimate Nullifier; the
       Evil Eye; and the Casket of the Ancient Warriors.
       --- Quote ---
       > Should a chrome lantenr be created?
       --- End Quote ---
       Chrome is colored gray, we already have a Gray Lantern.
       [/quote] Should a absolute shazam be created? If dc an marvel
       were to do crossover should shazam the wizard get the 12 items
       from avengers an justice league an study them then draw power of
       the elders gods an the 12 items to empower a new champion what
       ya think>
       #Post#: 4531--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: October 14, 2024, 3:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > Should a absolute shazam be created?
       --- End Quote ---
       The absolute universe is designed to flip the hierarchy of the
       established characters.  If Billy Batson came from prominence,
       there would be no need to give him the powers of Shazam!, the
       wizard chose Billy because of his humble upbringing and need for
       something greater.
       --- Quote ---
       > If dc an marvel were to do crossover should shazam the wizard
       get the 12 items from avengers an justice league an study them
       then draw power of the elders gods an the 12 items to empower a
       new champion what ya think>
       --- End Quote ---
       Shazam already exists, there is no need for another champion.
       Superheroes aren't toys, Kipp.  The wizard didn't create them
       for fun, it was because they were necessary.
       #Post#: 4543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: October 18, 2024, 2:54 am
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=99.msg4521#msg4521
       date=1728897715]Should a absolute shazam be created?
       --- End Quote ---
       The absolute universe is designed to flip the hierarchy of the
       established characters.  If Billy Batson came from prominence,
       there would be no need to give him the powers of Shazam!, the
       wizard chose Billy because of his humble upbringing and need for
       something greater.
       --- Quote ---
       > If dc an marvel were to do crossover should shazam the wizard
       get the 12 items from avengers an justice league an study them
       then draw power of the elders gods an the 12 items to empower a
       new champion what ya think>
       --- End Quote ---
       Shazam already exists, there is no need for another champion.
       Superheroes aren't toys, Kipp.  The wizard didn't create them
       for fun, it was because they were necessary.
       [/quote]Sorry i feel either the wizard gotta return as the
       champion or else appoint mary as a perment new shazam or create
       a new champion or else teach someone how to create shazam spell
       what ya think?
       #Post#: 4558--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shazam spell and similar spells and adapting them and
       potential
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: October 22, 2024, 3:36 am
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       I just said what I thought.
       If a new champion isn't in dire need, then it would just be
       playing and magic is not a toy.  It's a dangerous tool and
       should only ever be used in life-or-death emergencies.
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