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       #Post#: 3423--------------------------------------------------
       Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: September 20, 2023, 10:36 am
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       Should Fox KIds an Upn an Kids Wb an Nickelodeon marvel shows be
       continued like x-men 97 is a continued of the fox kids x-men
       series an that mean all marvel of the 90s an 2000 that were on
       those networks, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: September 29, 2023, 4:04 pm
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3423#msg3423
       date=1695224219]Should Fox KIds an Upn an Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       marvel shows be continued like x-men 97 is a continued of the
       fox kids x-men series an that mean all marvel of the 90s an 2000
       that were on those networks, what ya think?[/quote]There isn't
       enough groundswell.  X-Men '97 is being made because of the
       success of the X-Men '92 comic, which was only written because
       of the success of the original Fox Kids TV show.  People have
       grown up with that as their foremost memory of X-Men, as opposed
       to Evolution making them teenagers or Wolverine and the X-Men
       simply keeping the branding alive.
       Spider-Man TV shows are successful no matter what version, the
       Iron Man and Fantastic Four syndicated cartoons were products
       that wouldn't fit modern deeper storytelling, The Incredible
       Hulk UPN show nobody that wasn't a diehard fan even remembers,
       and the Avengers Fox Kids show nobody even liked.  X-Men is a
       very unique circumstance you don't give credence to because you
       liked all of the Marvel cartoons equally when the general public
       had one absolute favorite.
       #Post#: 3470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: October 13, 2023, 5:03 pm
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       [quote author=Drago link=topic=190.msg3450#msg3450
       date=1696021447]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3423#msg3423
       date=1695224219]Should Fox KIds an Upn an Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       marvel shows be continued like x-men 97 is a continued of the
       fox kids x-men series an that mean all marvel of the 90s an 2000
       that were on those networks, what ya think?[/quote]There isn't
       enough groundswell.  X-Men '97 is being made because of the
       success of the X-Men '92 comic, which was only written because
       of the success of the original Fox Kids TV show.  People have
       grown up with that as their foremost memory of X-Men, as opposed
       to Evolution making them teenagers or Wolverine and the X-Men
       simply keeping the branding alive.
       Spider-Man TV shows are successful no matter what version, the
       Iron Man and Fantastic Four syndicated cartoons were products
       that wouldn't fit modern deeper storytelling, The Incredible
       Hulk UPN show nobody that wasn't a diehard fan even remembers,
       and the Avengers Fox Kids show nobody even liked.  X-Men is a
       very unique circumstance you don't give credence to because you
       liked all of the Marvel cartoons equally when the general public
       had one absolute favorite.
       [/quote]I been seeing talk about continuance of spider-man as
       spider-man94 an about x-men evolution, ironman, an such an are
       suggesting continuing the series like the short lived fox kids
       avengers series or making new series combining them into one
       show, like one day ironman nickelodeon version, next fox kids
       silver surfer series an team them up an show could be done in 90
       minutes format per episode an are also asking for ultraforce
       contuance, what ya thin>
       #Post#: 3496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: October 16, 2023, 3:57 pm
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3470#msg3470
       date=1697234610]I been seeing talk about continuance of
       spider-man as spider-man94 an about x-men evolution, ironman, an
       such an are suggesting continuing the series like the short
       lived fox kids avengers series or making new series combining
       them into one show, like one day ironman nickelodeon version,
       next fox kids silver surfer series an team them up an show could
       be done in 90 minutes format per episode an are also asking for
       ultraforce contuance, what ya thin>[/quote]
       Nobody wants to watch 90-minute cartoons every week, that's way
       too much bloat.
       #Post#: 3544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: October 28, 2023, 5:32 am
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       Well some want longer cartoons an want to use x-men 97 as base
       for the idea that the cancled fox kids and upn an nickelodeon
       and kids wb series are brought back like the rumored spider-man
       94 series which is rumored to continue from where the original
       ended, or like ultraforce where the show ended, some want to
       bring them back or men in black, some are pushing for them all
       to return an finish them series an that include spider-man
       unlimited cartoon, so should they return?
       #Post#: 3569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: November 3, 2023, 2:27 am
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3544#msg3544
       date=1698489130]Well some want longer cartoons an want to use
       x-men 97 as base for the idea that the cancled fox kids and upn
       an nickelodeon and kids wb series are brought back like the
       rumored spider-man 94 series which is rumored to continue from
       where the original ended, or like ultraforce where the show
       ended, some want to bring them back or men in black, some are
       pushing for them all to return an finish them series an that
       include spider-man unlimited cartoon, so should they
       return?[/quote]
       No, they should not return.  Those were all canceled because not
       enough people cared about them.
       Spider-Man '94 is not necessary, the story ended.  John Semper
       even admitted that the concept he had in mind for rescuing Mary
       Jane after Spider-Wars was him scraping for ideas, the show had
       done all it could do and ending where it did was a good thing.
       Madame Web knew where Mary Jane was and they went to get her,
       there was no cliffhanger simply because the audience didn't see
       what was confirmed to happen next.
       #Post#: 3577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: November 4, 2023, 6:06 pm
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       [quote author=Drago link=topic=190.msg3569#msg3569
       date=1698996470]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3544#msg3544
       date=1698489130]Well some want longer cartoons an want to use
       x-men 97 as base for the idea that the cancled fox kids and upn
       an nickelodeon and kids wb series are brought back like the
       rumored spider-man 94 series which is rumored to continue from
       where the original ended, or like ultraforce where the show
       ended, some want to bring them back or men in black, some are
       pushing for them all to return an finish them series an that
       include spider-man unlimited cartoon, so should they
       return?[/quote]
       No, they should not return.  Those were all canceled because not
       enough people cared about them.
       Spider-Man '94 is not necessary, the story ended.  John Semper
       even admitted that the concept he had in mind for rescuing Mary
       Jane after Spider-Wars was him scraping for ideas, the show had
       done all it could do and ending where it did was a good thing.
       Madame Web knew where Mary Jane was and they went to get her,
       there was no cliffhanger simply because the audience didn't see
       what was confirmed to happen next.
       [/quote]Then explain why some are talking about continuing the
       90s spider-man series as spider-man 94? Also what about mixing
       the fox kids an upn marvel stuff including ultraforce as one
       show, an do same with kids wb xmen an nickeloden iron an xmen
       series as one show, would that work?
       #Post#: 3590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: November 8, 2023, 2:34 pm
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3577#msg3577
       date=1699139208]Then explain why some are talking about
       continuing the 90s spider-man series as spider-man
       94?[/quote]Because, again, people are spoiled.  They just want
       their entire childhoods expressed over again without putting
       their own ideas to the forefront of how that would work
       logistically.
       [quote]Also what about mixing the fox kids an upn marvel stuff
       including ultraforce as one show, an do same with kids wb xmen
       an nickeloden iron an xmen series as one show, would that
       work?[/quote]Both the tones and even art styles of those shows
       were wildly different, there is no way to make all of them work
       in one TV series which is why they weren't one TV series the
       first time.
       #Post#: 3695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: NEOOMNIVERSE Date: December 26, 2023, 2:49 pm
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       [quote author=Drago link=topic=190.msg3590#msg3590
       date=1699475689]
       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3577#msg3577
       date=1699139208]Then explain why some are talking about
       continuing the 90s spider-man series as spider-man
       94?[/quote]Because, again, people are spoiled.  They just want
       their entire childhoods expressed over again without putting
       their own ideas to the forefront of how that would work
       logistically.
       [quote]Also what about mixing the fox kids an upn marvel stuff
       including ultraforce as one show, an do same with kids wb xmen
       an nickeloden iron an xmen series as one show, would that
       work?[/quote]Both the tones and even art styles of those shows
       were wildly different, there is no way to make all of them work
       in one TV series which is why they weren't one TV series the
       first time.
       [/quote]I hope the x-men 97 idea works, an show dc an marvel
       that continuation of the original like nickelodeon iron can work
       an they can spin new show where its only few days after
       warmachine an ironman an rescue identities are public an
       ramifcations from stane an justin hammer an the ghost among
       others an how ironman an company handle change, or if batman
       beyond adapt justice league 2.0 into show or if it ultraforce
       they can adapt the characters leading to marvel an bring them
       in, or even like continuing the 60s an 70s an 80s marvel shows
       in animated form, so it can be done an i see them returning
       sometime 2024 an 2025 on disney plus, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3716--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       By: Primo De La Drago Date: January 9, 2024, 6:05 pm
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       [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3695#msg3695
       date=1703623789]I hope the x-men 97 idea works, an show dc an
       marvel that continuation of the original like nickelodeon iron
       can work an they can spin new show where its only few days after
       warmachine an ironman an rescue identities are public an
       ramifcations from stane an justin hammer an the ghost among
       others an how ironman an company handle change, or if batman
       beyond adapt justice league 2.0 into show or if it ultraforce
       they can adapt the characters leading to marvel an bring them
       in, or even like continuing the 60s an 70s an 80s marvel shows
       in animated form, so it can be done an i see them returning
       sometime 2024 an 2025 on disney plus, what ya think?[/quote]
       Again, this is not showing Marvel anything, this is a response
       to the strong sales from the X-Men '92 comic book being used to
       renew interest in the X-Men franchise now that Disney owns the
       rights to the live-action films.
       It is a passion project.  You cannot mass produce passion, which
       is what making another cartoon revival besides X-Men would be
       doing.
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