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       #Post#: 3423--------------------------------------------------
       Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: September 20, 2023, 10:36 am
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       Should Fox KIds an Upn an Kids Wb an Nickelodeon marvel shows be
       continued like x-men 97 is a continued of the fox kids x-men
       series an that mean all marvel of the 90s an 2000 that were on
       those networks, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: September 29, 2023, 4:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > Should Fox KIds an Upn an Kids Wb an Nickelodeon marvel shows
       be continued like x-men 97 is a continued of the fox kids x-men
       series an that mean all marvel of the 90s an 2000 that were on
       those networks, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       There isn't enough groundswell.  X-Men '97 is being made because
       of the success of the X-Men '92 comic, which was only written
       because of the success of the original Fox Kids TV show.  People
       have grown up with that as their foremost memory of X-Men, as
       opposed to Evolution making them teenagers or Wolverine and the
       X-Men simply keeping the branding alive.
       Spider-Man TV shows are successful no matter what version, the
       Iron Man and Fantastic Four syndicated cartoons were products
       that wouldn't fit modern deeper storytelling, The Incredible
       Hulk UPN show nobody that wasn't a diehard fan even remembers,
       and the Avengers Fox Kids show nobody even liked.  X-Men is a
       very unique circumstance you don't give credence to because you
       liked all of the Marvel cartoons equally when the general public
       had one absolute favorite.
       #Post#: 3470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: October 13, 2023, 5:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3423#msg3423
       date=1695224219]Should Fox KIds an Upn an Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
       marvel shows be continued like x-men 97 is a continued of the
       fox kids x-men series an that mean all marvel of the 90s an 2000
       that were on those networks, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       There isn't enough groundswell.  X-Men '97 is being made because
       of the success of the X-Men '92 comic, which was only written
       because of the success of the original Fox Kids TV show.  People
       have grown up with that as their foremost memory of X-Men, as
       opposed to Evolution making them teenagers or Wolverine and the
       X-Men simply keeping the branding alive.
       Spider-Man TV shows are successful no matter what version, the
       Iron Man and Fantastic Four syndicated cartoons were products
       that wouldn't fit modern deeper storytelling, The Incredible
       Hulk UPN show nobody that wasn't a diehard fan even remembers,
       and the Avengers Fox Kids show nobody even liked.  X-Men is a
       very unique circumstance you don't give credence to because you
       liked all of the Marvel cartoons equally when the general public
       had one absolute favorite.
       [/quote]I been seeing talk about continuance of spider-man as
       spider-man94 an about x-men evolution, ironman, an such an are
       suggesting continuing the series like the short lived fox kids
       avengers series or making new series combining them into one
       show, like one day ironman nickelodeon version, next fox kids
       silver surfer series an team them up an show could be done in 90
       minutes format per episode an are also asking for ultraforce
       contuance, what ya thin>
       #Post#: 3496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: October 16, 2023, 3:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > I been seeing talk about continuance of spider-man as
       spider-man94 an about x-men evolution, ironman, an such an are
       suggesting continuing the series like the short lived fox kids
       avengers series or making new series combining them into one
       show, like one day ironman nickelodeon version, next fox kids
       silver surfer series an team them up an show could be done in 90
       minutes format per episode an are also asking for ultraforce
       contuance, what ya thin>
       --- End Quote ---
       Nobody wants to watch 90-minute cartoons every week, that's way
       too much bloat.
       #Post#: 3544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: October 28, 2023, 5:32 am
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       Well some want longer cartoons an want to use x-men 97 as base
       for the idea that the cancled fox kids and upn an nickelodeon
       and kids wb series are brought back like the rumored spider-man
       94 series which is rumored to continue from where the original
       ended, or like ultraforce where the show ended, some want to
       bring them back or men in black, some are pushing for them all
       to return an finish them series an that include spider-man
       unlimited cartoon, so should they return?
       #Post#: 3569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: November 3, 2023, 2:27 am
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > Well some want longer cartoons an want to use x-men 97 as base
       for the idea that the cancled fox kids and upn an nickelodeon
       and kids wb series are brought back like the rumored spider-man
       94 series which is rumored to continue from where the original
       ended, or like ultraforce where the show ended, some want to
       bring them back or men in black, some are pushing for them all
       to return an finish them series an that include spider-man
       unlimited cartoon, so should they return?
       --- End Quote ---
       No, they should not return.  Those were all canceled because not
       enough people cared about them.
       Spider-Man '94 is not necessary, the story ended.  John Semper
       even admitted that the concept he had in mind for rescuing Mary
       Jane after Spider-Wars was him scraping for ideas, the show had
       done all it could do and ending where it did was a good thing.
       Madame Web knew where Mary Jane was and they went to get her,
       there was no cliffhanger simply because the audience didn't see
       what was confirmed to happen next.
       #Post#: 3577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: November 4, 2023, 6:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3544#msg3544
       date=1698489130]Well some want longer cartoons an want to use
       x-men 97 as base for the idea that the cancled fox kids and upn
       an nickelodeon and kids wb series are brought back like the
       rumored spider-man 94 series which is rumored to continue from
       where the original ended, or like ultraforce where the show
       ended, some want to bring them back or men in black, some are
       pushing for them all to return an finish them series an that
       include spider-man unlimited cartoon, so should they return?
       --- End Quote ---
       No, they should not return.  Those were all canceled because not
       enough people cared about them.
       Spider-Man '94 is not necessary, the story ended.  John Semper
       even admitted that the concept he had in mind for rescuing Mary
       Jane after Spider-Wars was him scraping for ideas, the show had
       done all it could do and ending where it did was a good thing.
       Madame Web knew where Mary Jane was and they went to get her,
       there was no cliffhanger simply because the audience didn't see
       what was confirmed to happen next.
       [/quote]Then explain why some are talking about continuing the
       90s spider-man series as spider-man 94? Also what about mixing
       the fox kids an upn marvel stuff including ultraforce as one
       show, an do same with kids wb xmen an nickeloden iron an xmen
       series as one show, would that work?
       #Post#: 3590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: November 8, 2023, 2:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > Then explain why some are talking about continuing the 90s
       spider-man series as spider-man 94?
       --- End Quote ---
       Because, again, people are spoiled.  They just want their entire
       childhoods expressed over again without putting their own ideas
       to the forefront of how that would work logistically.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also what about mixing the fox kids an upn marvel stuff
       including ultraforce as one show, an do same with kids wb xmen
       an nickeloden iron an xmen series as one show, would that work?
       --- End Quote ---
       Both the tones and even art styles of those shows were wildly
       different, there is no way to make all of them work in one TV
       series which is why they weren't one TV series the first time.
       #Post#: 3695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: NEOOMNIVERSE
       Date: December 26, 2023, 2:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: Drago link ---
       >
       > [quote author=NE∞MNIVERSE link=topic=190.msg3577#msg3577
       date=1699139208]Then explain why some are talking about
       continuing the 90s spider-man series as spider-man 94?
       --- End Quote ---
       Because, again, people are spoiled.  They just want their entire
       childhoods expressed over again without putting their own ideas
       to the forefront of how that would work logistically.
       --- Quote ---
       > Also what about mixing the fox kids an upn marvel stuff
       including ultraforce as one show, an do same with kids wb xmen
       an nickeloden iron an xmen series as one show, would that work?
       --- End Quote ---
       Both the tones and even art styles of those shows were wildly
       different, there is no way to make all of them work in one TV
       series which is why they weren't one TV series the first time.
       [/quote]I hope the x-men 97 idea works, an show dc an marvel
       that continuation of the original like nickelodeon iron can work
       an they can spin new show where its only few days after
       warmachine an ironman an rescue identities are public an
       ramifcations from stane an justin hammer an the ghost among
       others an how ironman an company handle change, or if batman
       beyond adapt justice league 2.0 into show or if it ultraforce
       they can adapt the characters leading to marvel an bring them
       in, or even like continuing the 60s an 70s an 80s marvel shows
       in animated form, so it can be done an i see them returning
       sometime 2024 an 2025 on disney plus, what ya think?
       #Post#: 3716--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fox Kids an Upn and Kids Wb an Nickelodeon
   DIR By: Primo De La Drago
       Date: January 9, 2024, 6:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: NE∞MNIVERSE link ---
       > I hope the x-men 97 idea works, an show dc an marvel that
       continuation of the original like nickelodeon iron can work an
       they can spin new show where its only few days after warmachine
       an ironman an rescue identities are public an ramifcations from
       stane an justin hammer an the ghost among others an how ironman
       an company handle change, or if batman beyond adapt justice
       league 2.0 into show or if it ultraforce they can adapt the
       characters leading to marvel an bring them in, or even like
       continuing the 60s an 70s an 80s marvel shows in animated form,
       so it can be done an i see them returning sometime 2024 an 2025
       on disney plus, what ya think?
       --- End Quote ---
       Again, this is not showing Marvel anything, this is a response
       to the strong sales from the X-Men '92 comic book being used to
       renew interest in the X-Men franchise now that Disney owns the
       rights to the live-action films.
       It is a passion project.  You cannot mass produce passion, which
       is what making another cartoon revival besides X-Men would be
       doing.
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