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Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Aknot Date: January 20, 2015, 9:02 am
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[quote author=Admiral Fatts link=topic=428.msg3935#msg3935
date=1421764836]
And this conversation right here is why every other game I have
ever played is either PVP or Not PVP, no wierdness trying to
split a map. Honestly I don't understand why you dont just have
a claim of land for woodbury, have your pve rule within "town
limits" and elect a sherrif who is cleared to pvp in the town to
deal with the criminals?
[/quote]
Really I have played other games that effectively split the game
into a PvP or PvE by choice of the players (Warcraft is the
first one that comes to mind). There is no weirdness that I can
think of. You chose to PvP or not. If you go into a PvP zone you
get flagged for PvP.
Again you have people that want to PvP and people that dont.
With the ability to now (couldnt see doing this when it was a
closed map) to give each side what it wants without either side
having a benefit the question should be why wouldnt you cater to
2 different mindsets of players?
The town limits will not afford everything the PvE players
needs/wants to survive. The same question could be asked of the
PvPer. Why not stay in and build at ground zero (or other
sizable city) and you people that like and want to PvP stay in
there and PvP? Well because that places limits. With an infinite
map North and South each gets what they want with no limits so I
don't see the weirdness.....
#Post#: 3938--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Admiral Fatts Date: January 20, 2015, 9:27 am
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This split has created toxicity in the server. I have
uninstalled due to that, I say good day.
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Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Aknot Date: January 20, 2015, 9:32 am
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[quote author=Admiral Fatts link=topic=428.msg3938#msg3938
date=1421767676]
This split has created toxicity in the server. I have
uninstalled due to that, I say good day.
[/quote]
Sorry to hear that. However having two sides get what they want
should keep everyone happy. This is why Im curious as to why
people wouldn't be happy regardless if they are PvP or PvE.
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Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Madman Date: January 20, 2015, 9:38 am
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I have kept silent through most of this. But, I have to say that
I don't agree for a second that the split has created ANY
toxicity. Arguments and disagreements happen. That is human
nature. Some people resist change and complain. Others embrace
it and try to stay positive. If it is a good idea, it will work.
If it isn't, it won't and we will do something different. It
really is just that simple.
Any toxicity is only a result of personalities conflicting, not
the game parameters.
#Post#: 3942--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Flags of Power
By: h0tr0d Date: January 20, 2015, 9:47 am
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Fatts is right. You don't see the conversations that occur also
on the server consistently. The commiseration and pot-stirring
and lobbying. I tire of logging on to hear so-and-so has been
poisoning new players with how so-and-so broke rules or is a bad
person or a dick or new spawn killer etc.
I log on today to see people who engage in PVP being slanderized
and cast in a negative light.
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Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Aknot Date: January 20, 2015, 9:57 am
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[quote author=h0tr0d link=topic=428.msg3942#msg3942
date=1421768866]
Fatts is right. You don't see the conversations that occur also
on the server consistently. The commiseration and pot-stirring
and lobbying. I tire of logging on to hear so-and-so has been
poisoning new players with how so-and-so broke rules or is a bad
person or a dick or new spawn killer etc.
I log on today to see people who engage in PVP being slanderized
and cast in a negative light.
[/quote]
Report them and have MM pull the logs im sure he can. Then MM
can direct his attention to those people who are calling people
bad things and poisoning the new player base against the PvPers.
Especially the Slander thing. I mean that's terrible.
#Post#: 3944--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Madman Date: January 20, 2015, 9:59 am
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As I just said in chat just now, I will say here. I will NOT
tolerate any player bashing here. If you have an issue with
another player, come to me. Consider this a warning. Those of
you who continue to talk poorly of another player will be
suspended or banned. I won't put up with it. If you are guilty
of this, STOP now. I don't want to hear any bitching if you go
to log in one day and you find that you can't. Thank you in
advance for your cooperation.
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Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Viddion Date: January 20, 2015, 10:05 am
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Hey, I was wondering if we could have some sort of opinion
thread on the split, something more or less official so that we
can try to do what's best for everyone. Personally my solutions
are very pvp biased as I do PvP but we have a lot of people like
Aknot who only PvE interests who should have an equal voice on
this thing. I was even thinking maybe a teamspeak sit down where
we could all politely hash details. Just mostly spit balling
ideas here. I know this is Madman's server but I know he wants
what's best for everyone (Unless he's Skynet or something, which
honestly he might be he's always around so watch out)
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Re: Five Flags of Power
By: Madman Date: January 20, 2015, 10:16 am
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I wish I was always around. I can't remember the last time I was
really able to PLAY for a good bit of time, lol.
I will be introducing a thread soon with a draft of the new
rules and we can debate the details there and then. The split
WILL happen regardless of input though. Hate to sound all
Dictatory (Yay, for new made up word! :P) but that is the way it
has to be right now. If it doesn't work well we can always
change it.
EDIT: Never mind. Just looked it up and apparently "Dictatory"
IS a real word. Who knew?
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