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       #Post#: 3086--------------------------------------------------
       Crafting List?
   DIR By: Cardi
       Date: November 24, 2014, 8:36 am
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       Soooooooo, who will update it?
  HTML http://www.groundzerogaming.club/recipes.html
       Ps. Remember to add Sniper Reciever Mold! ;-) It's missing from
       Vanilla recipe list!
       #Post#: 3087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Niknaks
       Date: November 24, 2014, 9:19 am
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       I would also like to make a request
       With the removal of loot spawning in crafted desk safes and gun
       safes its made finding items such like Magnum parts and handles
       nigh on impossible and super rare - so could we possible add
       recipes to make molds for these items once we do find them
       In the last build we struggled to find magnum parts and handles
       - in this build it will be literally like winning the lottery,
       and when we do find them we should be able to make molds for
       them if they are to be required for the likes of augers &
       chainsaws.
       Cheers
       #Post#: 3091--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: h0tr0d
       Date: November 24, 2014, 1:07 pm
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       I told Madman I will help with custom recipes this next weekend
       when the build is stable. TFP announced they will be releasing
       10.1 soon to fix server errors, and I want to see if they do
       anything else like add the receiver mold and ix reinforced
       concrete before we customize those.
       #Post#: 3123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Aknot
       Date: November 26, 2014, 7:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Niknaks link ---
       >
       > I would also like to make a request
       >
       > With the removal of loot spawning in crafted desk safes and
       gun safes its made finding items such like Magnum parts and
       handles nigh on impossible and super rare - so could we possible
       add recipes to make molds for these items once we do find them
       >
       > In the last build we struggled to find magnum parts and
       handles - in this build it will be literally like winning the
       lottery, and when we do find them we should be able to make
       molds for them if they are to be required for the likes of
       augers & chainsaws.
       >
       > Cheers
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       NikNak,
       I tend to disagree (of course I wont complain if it is
       implemented i jut wont do it) just due to the fact SOME THINGs
       should be rare. It should be like winning the lottery.
       Weapons (and items) that are that powerful should be difficult
       to get.
       It also may create trade lanes (or other agreements) between
       people and groups. Case in point at one time I had agreements
       with OF and Cookies group that I would provide them with "X" as
       long as they did not attack me. (im a loner type)
       It also makes the clan structure a little more daunting.... Say
       you have 5 people in your clan..... who gets the first crafted
       Magnum? Sniper? Why?
       To me leaving OUT the ability to craft these items makes the
       game more challenging overall... not just for Zombie survival.
       If everything is available to everyone with no effort it kind of
       takes away from the whole aspect of survival.
       Im one of the few that did not make chest farms for webs or safe
       farms for loot/supplies. I try to play the game where at points
       my choices will make a difference in my survivability. Yes I die
       and come back to life but now I second guess my decision to
       trade that magnum part instead of keeping which may have saved
       my life.......
       So no molds for the powerful items (unless in game already) is
       my stance. Ya gotta work for something.
       #Post#: 3125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Niknaks
       Date: November 26, 2014, 8:31 am
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       while I agree some things should be rare it makes no sense why a
       magnum cant be created through using a mold, but other weapons
       can be - I would completely and utterly agree with you if other
       weapons were not created this way already in game.  The SMG
       parts are super rare but you can still create molds for them
       once you find them - so why not a magnum?
       It's hard enough to find the parts as it is - so when you do you
       should be able to mold it.
       #Post#: 3126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Aknot
       Date: November 26, 2014, 8:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Niknaks link ---
       >
       > The SMG parts are super rare but you can still create molds
       for them once you find them - so why not a magnum?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Magnum (last I remember) is a 1 shot 1 kill regardless of
       where you hit your (Z)target. The SMG is not nor is the
       Sniper(?) or the other weapons.
       What would be rare then if not the Magnum? Tungsten is now
       (apparently based on the trade section in the forums) easy to
       obtain.
       Again if MM decides to do it so be it. However I dont think it
       is a good idea to make everything easy.
       Like the gimme I dont like it think it is 'silly' adds nothing
       to the game environment and will never use it. On the other hand
       a ping device that you have to craft out of hard to find
       materials that when activated airdrops a crate in 15/30 mins
       that attracts Zs and allows other players to know it was
       activated in a certain area is different.
       As to why not one could say the tempered steel/metal to contain
       the Magnum force is not obtainable. The Magnum based on the 1
       shot 1 kill more or less stats this is a powerful weapon it
       needs strong materials and we cant craft those materials without
       a hotter forge and better knowledge. (hey sounds good)
       #Post#: 3127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Niknaks
       Date: November 26, 2014, 8:52 am
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       im all for getting say tungsten or even a custom hardened
       tungsten or something to be able to craft the magnum parts - I
       just think it in reality terms regardless of the 1 shot 1 kill
       if your looking at realism it should be in the game along with
       others...
       ...or
       as its not the magnum iself I want - its the ability to craft
       the auger and chainsaw
       so change the recipe away from magnum parts to something else
       ;D
       #Post#: 3128--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Madman
       Date: November 26, 2014, 8:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Niknaks link ---
       >
       > while I agree some things should be rare it makes no sense why
       a magnum cant be created through using a mold, but other weapons
       can be - I would completely and utterly agree with you if other
       weapons were not created this way already in game.  The SMG
       parts are super rare but you can still create molds for them
       once you find them - so why not a magnum?
       >
       > It's hard enough to find the parts as it is - so when you do
       you should be able to mold it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       While I can see where both of you are coming from, it is
       irrelevant at this stage of the game. I can only add recipes
       only for items that exist in creative mode. I am not a
       programmer so I am limited to modifying the existing code. There
       are not any magnum part molds coded into the game so it is
       impossible for me to add them into the custom recipes.
       #Post#: 3129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Aknot
       Date: November 26, 2014, 8:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Niknaks link ---
       >
       > im all for getting say tungsten or even a custom hardened
       tungsten or something to be able to craft the magnum parts - I
       just think it in reality terms regardless of the 1 shot 1 kill
       if your looking at realism it should be in the game along with
       others...
       >
       > ...or
       >
       > as its not the magnum iself I want - its the ability to craft
       the auger and chainsaw
       >
       > so change the recipe away from magnum parts to something else
       ;D
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well see there you added another level of survivability....
       Do I take these hard to find parts and make an auger/chainsaw or
       a Magnum..... What benefits the clan (if you are in one) or me
       as an individual more the Magnum or the Auger....
       See thats what I am talking about it makes you live with your
       decisions.... The Magnum makes it easier for you to travel/loot
       kill Zs yet the Auger allows you faster mining to find materials
       that you can trade and or create stronger base materials....
       If you have molds you have it all..... no tough decision just
       make it all.
       However as I said I live with the deciosn of the almight MM. I
       enjoy the server and the people first and foremost.
       #Post#: 3130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Crafting List?
   DIR By: Pitchburn
       Date: November 26, 2014, 9:43 am
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       I love the fact that this game has items that are very hard to
       obtain.  I almost wonder if they left out the sniper receiver
       mold on purpose?
       I was excited and disappointed at the same time when I found 4
       out of 5 sniper parts in the first few days and Cardi found 3
       which gave us (as a clan) 1 working sniper.  That receiver parts
       importance is that of McDonald's Monopoly game boardwalk game
       piece (without it you got nothing).
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