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       #Post#: 2309--------------------------------------------------
       Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: h0tr0d
       Date: September 19, 2014, 1:46 pm
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       I ask because there is no real good answer, but it seems
       patently obvious to me that with 30 days as a timer several
       things happen:
       People run far to find cities, sometimes one rl session is
       traveling. Then you spend another rl session (or more) looting
       said city/locations, rl session to run back, then find another
       city/etc etc etc.
       Do we want to experiment with a lower timer to see if it
       facilitates people residing and looting less locations? IN other
       words, make people less nomadic in hopes it leads to more
       conflict.
       I see pros and cons with 30 days, and it is much better than 3
       days. But it also may be counter productive...do we try 20 days?
       or something else, just to see?
       #Post#: 2310--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: Spider
       Date: September 19, 2014, 4:06 pm
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       With the lootable container layout we have now I like the 30 day
       loot timer we have now. I think it’s just about perfect. I think
       the bug with the game days going back and forth is screwing up
       the flow of the loot respawn though. But changing the timer
       won’t help with that. We will just have to wait for them to fix
       it.
       #Post#: 2311--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: Aknot
       Date: September 19, 2014, 4:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: Spider link ---
       >
       > But changing the timer won’t help with that. We will just have
       to wait for them to fix it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Or change the timer to correlate what the 30 day timer is
       supposed to be? Probably cant be done however HR is correct if
       the containers are never going to respawn because we never get a
       true 30 day cycle we are just going further and further out to
       hunt for needed items.
       I don't think HR (nor am I) suggest changing the 30 day cycle if
       it works. However it doesn't so maybe some tweaking needs to
       take place.
       #Post#: 2312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: h0tr0d
       Date: September 19, 2014, 7:19 pm
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       I also noticed that when he does a reset it really screws it up
       also, like it resets it. IN light of the external and internal
       factors, should we lower it a little?
       And exactly Aknot, seems like we have to go further and further.
       Madman I believe would like to reset it once a day to keep
       memory leaks down, but this means no new loot.
       #Post#: 2313--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: Spider
       Date: September 20, 2014, 12:27 am
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       Its day 48 right now that means loot reset earlier today. With
       the clock messing up I think we are getting extra loot not less
       I’ve been on when I’ve looted something the clock went backwards
       then I looted it again. Also Hotrod and Aknot ya’ll have the
       most online time on the sever(not that there’s anything wrong
       with that) so of cores ya’ll should be having to go farther to
       loot stuff if you’re on for 5-10 hours in a day. What do you
       want to be able to loot the same city twice in one day? How
       about 3 times in a day? 4? Right now loot respawns once every
       day at a different time I think that works out perfect. There is
       nowhere near any kind of shortage of loot. There are items that
       have a much lower drop rate but that is intended by the
       developers and without it there would be no need to keep playing
       after you had everything in the first five days after a fresh
       wipe. What could you possibly be short on that you would want
       loot increased? I have no trouble finding loot maybe your just
       having a run of bad luck.
       #Post#: 2314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: bulletbkr
       Date: September 20, 2014, 12:49 am
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       The 30 day loot timer is killing me, I've wandered off and found
       another server in the meanwhile, but I miss this one. Set it
       back to two weeks is my vote.
       #Post#: 2315--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: bulletbkr
       Date: September 20, 2014, 12:52 am
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       Also, don't know if it has anything to do with the loot respawn,
       but I don't think I've seen Armagedon on as much, either.
       #Post#: 2316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: Aknot
       Date: September 20, 2014, 5:16 am
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       --- Quote from: Spider link ---
       >
       > Its day 48 right now that means loot reset earlier today. With
       the clock messing up I think we are getting extra loot not less
       I’ve been on when I’ve looted something the clock went backwards
       then I looted it again. Also Hotrod and Aknot ya’ll have the
       most online time on the sever(not that there’s anything wrong
       with that) so of cores ya’ll should be having to go farther to
       loot stuff if you’re on for 5-10 hours in a day. What do you
       want to be able to loot the same city twice in one day? How
       about 3 times in a day? 4? Right now loot respawns once every
       day at a different time I think that works out perfect. There is
       nowhere near any kind of shortage of loot. There are items that
       have a much lower drop rate but that is intended by the
       developers and without it there would be no need to keep playing
       after you had everything in the first five days after a fresh
       wipe. What could you possibly be short on that you would want
       loot increased? I have no trouble finding loot maybe your just
       having a run of bad luck.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A lower drop rate and a respawnging loot container are two
       different things. I understand this and I will venture to guess
       HR does also. I tried to be cordial and I will try one more
       time.
       If HR and I are on the longest it would be logical to assume we
       would know better by having experienced it more.
       The containers to the best of my knowledge (and experience being
       on the longest) do not spit out more loot based on the apparent
       inadvertent roll backs.
       However I will make sure I test that out next time Im on and it
       happens.
       #Post#: 2318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: Spider
       Date: September 20, 2014, 7:39 am
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       Never said what kind or items your short on. What loot are you
       having problems finding.
       #Post#: 2319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Do we need to revisit the 30 day loot timer?
   DIR By: Aknot
       Date: September 20, 2014, 8:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Spider link ---
       >
       > Never said what kind or items your short on. What loot are you
       having problems finding.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well that's not the issue im bringing up. I don't know about HR.
       Im just saying overall it appears because of the resets the
       loot/respawn cycle is broken.
       It could be food it could be weapon parts it could be ammo etc.
       The type of loot is not in question (at least from me). We are
       trying the 30 day loot respawn and loot is not respawning (again
       in my experience) every 30 days. Something is broke so we are
       looking at way to possibly address it.
       While going out further is a solution it is not indicative of
       "fun" play to some. You spend an inordinate amount of time going
       out further each cycle because the cycle is broke.
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