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       #Post#: 13628--------------------------------------------------
       Should we make the server public?
       By: Madman Date: May 21, 2020, 12:38 pm
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       Please vote now!  Thanks [emoji6]
       #Post#: 13629--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: KaRnAgE Date: May 21, 2020, 12:59 pm
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       i only worry that the new players will not understand the north
       south pvp/pve and there will be many who violate the rule.
       
       #Post#: 13630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: RyanX Date: May 21, 2020, 1:17 pm
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       I can't say why the server is dead but I can tell you why I only
       played a couple of weeks each of these past couple of seeds (my
       player name is Omnibus).  I might be in the minority and I'm not
       saying I disagree with how people like to play, but it seems
       like loot is way too plentiful. I get all the books really fast
       and have great gear way too early.  I didn't like the addition
       of the mall...although I like the idea of it, but there's too
       much easy loot in the apartments and too easy to access traders.
       I don't know that making it public will get and keep people or
       not, but I lose interest fast with all the changes over the last
       number of seeds.  Again, maybe you find that this is what draws
       people to your server, but my wife and I prefer more of a
       challenge.  The obligatory "you can choose to use them or not"
       is a fair point...but I like to PvP as well, and everyone should
       be on a level playing field for that.
       #Post#: 13631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: Patchup Date: May 21, 2020, 1:41 pm
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       I have not been playing simply because my computer couldn't
       handle the game after the previous major update.
       I still say hello on discord from time to time.
       I am getting a new computer in the near future, so hopefully I
       will be able to play again.
       #Post#: 13632--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: Wipeout Date: May 21, 2020, 2:16 pm
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       [quote author=RyanX link=topic=2316.msg13630#msg13630
       date=1590085035]
       I can't say why the server is dead but I can tell you why I only
       played a couple of weeks each of these past couple of seeds (my
       player name is Omnibus).  I might be in the minority and I'm not
       saying I disagree with how people like to play, but it seems
       like loot is way too plentiful. I get all the books really fast
       and have great gear way too early.  I didn't like the addition
       of the mall...although I like the idea of it, but there's too
       much easy loot in the apartments and too easy to access traders.
       I don't know that making it public will get and keep people or
       not, but I lose interest fast with all the changes over the last
       number of seeds.  Again, maybe you find that this is what draws
       people to your server, but my wife and I prefer more of a
       challenge.  The obligatory "you can choose to use them or not"
       is a fair point...but I like to PvP as well, and everyone should
       be on a level playing field for that.
       [/quote]
       I 100% totally agree with this, last night I joined two
       populated servers but it was littered with loot, the game should
       be as vanilla as possible with some 'perks' available for
       grinding, a shop is plenty for this.  There was even a situation
       where people are staying in hotel rooms and not leaving the
       hotel so they have to make it an incentive to leave!
       Another server I was picked up in a mad max vehicle, nice and
       friendly, taken to a huge complex and there was storage with
       every item you can think of......I said my thanks and logged off
       never to return....
       On this server, I was wowed by the HQ, but then I saw all the
       spoon feeding available to people and that would be a little off
       putting to mem within 2 minutes I had about 3 guns, all the
       tools xyz…..  I spent weeks grinding to get the auger, weeks and
       weeks and weeks and the reward in the end was very satisfying,
       yes I mean time is a premium but short cuts take the fun
       out....I mean all is left would be to build and you have servers
       like pimp my house 5000xp for that.  2x XP is probably good
       enough without all the mega spawning of loot...more zombies,
       less loot....make even finding water hard!  If servers have to
       reset, well how about lengthening the days out abit more to like
       120mins or more?  60mins is nothing I find....
       I think in a pve/pvp split, grinding is the best way, any idiots
       are unlikely to grind, they want short cuts and to spoil peoples
       fun with the least amount of barriers.
       On another note, the game seems to be going more fallouty with
       the quests and things, I wonder if it would be possible to have
       factions at all in the game where instead of PVP deathmatch it
       was kind of teamdeathmatch etc but with some kind of goal
       required, could be fun.
       #Post#: 13633--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: Madman Date: May 21, 2020, 2:22 pm
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       [quote author=Wipeout link=topic=2316.msg13632#msg13632
       date=1590088602]
       [quote author=RyanX link=topic=2316.msg13630#msg13630
       date=1590085035]
       I can't say why the server is dead but I can tell you why I only
       played a couple of weeks each of these past couple of seeds (my
       player name is Omnibus).  I might be in the minority and I'm not
       saying I disagree with how people like to play, but it seems
       like loot is way too plentiful. I get all the books really fast
       and have great gear way too early.  I didn't like the addition
       of the mall...although I like the idea of it, but there's too
       much easy loot in the apartments and too easy to access traders.
       I don't know that making it public will get and keep people or
       not, but I lose interest fast with all the changes over the last
       number of seeds.  Again, maybe you find that this is what draws
       people to your server, but my wife and I prefer more of a
       challenge.  The obligatory "you can choose to use them or not"
       is a fair point...but I like to PvP as well, and everyone should
       be on a level playing field for that.
       [/quote]
       I 100% totally agree with this, last night I joined two
       populated servers but it was littered with loot, the game should
       be as vanilla as possible with some 'perks' available for
       grinding, a shop is plenty for this.  There was even a situation
       where people are staying in hotel rooms and not leaving the
       hotel so they have to make it an incentive to leave!
       Another server I was picked up in a mad max vehicle, nice and
       friendly, taken to a huge complex and there was storage with
       every item you can think of......I said my thanks and logged off
       never to return....
       On this server, I was wowed by the HQ, but then I saw all the
       spoon feeding available to people and that would be a little off
       putting to mem within 2 minutes I had about 3 guns, all the
       tools xyz…..  I spent weeks grinding to get the auger, weeks and
       weeks and weeks and the reward in the end was very satisfying,
       yes I mean time is a premium but short cuts take the fun
       out....I mean all is left would be to build and you have servers
       like pimp my house 5000xp for that.  2x XP is probably good
       enough without all the mega spawning of loot...more zombies,
       less loot....make even finding water hard!  If servers have to
       reset, well how about lengthening the days out abit more to like
       120mins or more?  60mins is nothing I find....
       I think in a pve/pvp split, grinding is the best way, any idiots
       are unlikely to grind, they want short cuts and to spoil peoples
       fun with the least amount of barriers.
       On another note, the game seems to be going more fallouty with
       the quests and things, I wonder if it would be possible to have
       factions at all in the game where instead of PVP deathmatch it
       was kind of teamdeathmatch etc but with some kind of goal
       required, could be fun.
       [/quote]
       The days on our server are set to 90 minutes.  There will be
       more balancing of loot and such in the coming seeds.  We won't
       really know how A19 is going to change things until we play it.
       It's always a work in progress.
       #Post#: 13634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: Wipeout Date: May 21, 2020, 2:22 pm
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       [quote author=KaRnAgE link=topic=2316.msg13629#msg13629
       date=1590083970]
       i only worry that the new players will not understand the north
       south pvp/pve and there will be many who violate the rule.
       [/quote]
       How is best to manage that?  What happens in self defence, I
       guess its drama Madman can do without but some kind of policing
       will be needed for sure.  If someone attacks then I would expect
       the community to retaliate with full force and 'legally' be
       allowed to dispatch of said nomads, but then it could always
       violate the rules and we could all end up in jail  :)
       #Post#: 13635--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: gobison Date: May 21, 2020, 2:25 pm
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       I'm waiting for A19 update.
       #Post#: 13636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: Madman Date: May 21, 2020, 2:26 pm
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       Also, our mod developer has some exciting new things in store
       for us.  Modded vehicles have been reworked a bit, casino
       machines have been completely overhauled, mega boss arena is
       almost finished and a new capture the flag event is getting it's
       final touches as well.  These are just a few of the cool things
       coming soon.
       #Post#: 13637--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should we make the server public?
       By: Jaspymon Date: May 21, 2020, 3:17 pm
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       In future wipes, the apartment buildings will be locked when the
       server starts. No one will be able to go into those rooms to
       take the loot. It was supposed to be like that this seed, but
       that was overlooked before it was too late.
       As far as factions, many people do not want to PVP, and if
       people want to start factions in the South, that is totally fine
       with us.  However, it is not something we would want to manage.
       Madman is always up for reviewing the rate of loot spawn. The
       reason it's so high right now is because it was set when we had
       a lot of players playing. Most people are in the North and
       having 20 active players in the North makes people want a faster
       loot spawn.  We could have turned it down when the player
       population dropped off, but no one complained about it until
       now.
       Madman has always been open to suggestions and doing what the
       majority of the server once, when feasible. If you guys have
       suggestions, always feel free to ask!
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