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#Post#: 13204--------------------------------------------------
Saving Player Data
DIR By: rudthedud
Date: January 7, 2019, 10:20 am
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Hello!
I have been playing 7DTD on another server and I am coming back
to this one as I really enjoyed the PvE and PvP on the same map
along with the great community!
The other server/support team had an option that allowed for
Characters to be saved before a wipe so you would not have to
start from scratch again after every server wipe (I did this in
Alpha 16). You did not keep your items just your level. With
Alpha 17 stable out now I am wondering if this could be an
option on this server? I know it would take time and of course I
would expect to have to make a donation or reoccurring donation
for a feature of this level.
Just wanted to know your thoughts. Also I am sorry if this was
already posted.
Thanks!
Rudthedud
#Post#: 13205--------------------------------------------------
Re: Saving Player Data
DIR By: Madman
Date: January 7, 2019, 10:55 am
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--- Quote from: rudthedud link ---
>
> Hello!
>
> I have been playing 7DTD on another server and I am coming
back to this one as I really enjoyed the PvE and PvP on the same
map along with the great community!
>
> The other server/support team had an option that allowed for
Characters to be saved before a wipe so you would not have to
start from scratch again after every server wipe (I did this in
Alpha 16). You did not keep your items just your level. With
Alpha 17 stable out now I am wondering if this could be an
option on this server? I know it would take time and of course I
would expect to have to make a donation or reoccurring donation
for a feature of this level.
>
> Just wanted to know your thoughts. Also I am sorry if this was
already posted.
>
> Thanks!
> Rudthedud
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello. I am very familiar with the server you are referring to.
I don't think I will be offering this. But instead of just
saying no, please allow me to explain my reasoning in two parts:
1) I will NEVER ask a member to donate (pay me money) to
provide a service. I don't like that idea on principle. It
literally would only take mere seconds of my time to do what you
have asked. While I certainly appreciate donations and they do
help me tremendously, I find that practice very shady and greedy
on the part of the other server's owner.
2) As you know, our server is split-map and as such we allow
both PvE AND PvP play styles. It would be very unfair to have
such a system in place that would permit a player to start a new
seed leveled up while others that don't pay start from square
one. Certainly this could be considered nothing short of
"pay-to-win" for the PvP part of our community.
So, I hope you can appreciate my logic in not providing this
service for our server. If this were an ALL PvE server, what
you ask for could make sense, but I would never ask for money to
do it. That said, I do intend to provide other in-game perks
for donors soon. But these will be perks that will not give
donors unfair advantage over the other players.
I am always open to new ideas so I appreciate your suggestion.
[emoji2]
#Post#: 13206--------------------------------------------------
Re: Saving Player Data
DIR By: rudthedud
Date: January 7, 2019, 11:22 am
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--- Quote from: MADMAN link ---
>
>
> Hello. I am very familiar with the server you are referring
to. I don't think I will be offering this. But instead of just
saying no, please allow me to explain my reasoning in two parts:
>
> 1) I will NEVER ask a member to donate (pay me money) to
provide a service. I don't like that idea on principle. It
literally would only take mere seconds of my time to do what you
have asked. While I certainly appreciate donations and they do
help me tremendously, I find that practice very shady and greedy
on the part of the other server's owner.
>
> 2) As you know, our server is split-map and as such we allow
both PvE AND PvP play styles. It would be very unfair to have
such a system in place that would permit a player to start a new
seed leveled up while others that don't pay start from square
one. Certainly this could be considered nothing short of
"pay-to-win" for the PvP part of our community.
>
> So, I hope you can appreciate my logic in not providing this
service for our server. If this were an ALL PvE server, what
you ask for could make sense, but I would never ask for money to
do it. That said, I do intend to provide other in-game perks
for donors soon. But these will be perks that will not give
donors unfair advantage over the other players.
>
> I am always open to new ideas so I appreciate your suggestion.
[emoji2]
>
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Thank you so much for the quick reply! Just another reason I am
coming back here :) Thank you as well for providing a detailed
response. I understand your reasons and will respect them. Thank
you for proving support for years and not demanding monetary
reward, very refreshing to see. For the PvP I do not personally
agree with this logic you provided as the same advantage is
already given to players if they started on "Day One" vs someone
starting on "Day 500". I do get how it can seem like a pay to
win after the server restarts and become unfair as time
progresses if its a paid feature. It can widen the gap for
'grinding' making some players ready to kill after a server wipe
in PvP.
Just some food for thought maybe before a server wipe we can
poll people if they would like all player profiles to be kept on
the wipe? I know there will always be a difference in opinion as
some people will want to start fresh to complete a different
perk tree. You own the server and obviously know whats good
after running it for 4 years. I am the noob without experience
here ;D
Again thanks for taking the time to respond to me and being so
polite.
#Post#: 13208--------------------------------------------------
Re: Saving Player Data
DIR By: frankencow
Date: January 7, 2019, 9:46 pm
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Two thoughts:
First, thank you both for communicating in a mature, respectful
manner, even when you disagree. The main 7DTD forum has
basically decended into a ridiculous soup of flaming invective
over video game preferences. Madman, kudos for encouraging a
respectful environment.
Second, related to the original topic, I'm one of those who
prefers it when we wipe occasionally. This is especially so when
new builds drop that significantly impact progress, but for me
it is even true during stable builds. If we keep a seed for more
than 6 months my interest tends to drift. (Then again, I'm one
of those crazies who would play a single-death-and-your-out game
for 7DTD if such a thing was a feasible option.)
I'd play on this server either way, though.
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