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       #Post#: 1273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unlimited brass & metal scrap! Items duping
   DIR By: BUCKMASTER
       Date: August 13, 2014, 11:43 am
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       Here comes the Scrap Iron Mountain...  maybe we could build it
       over the starting city, entirely covering & encompassing the
       city in darkness, the Zeds would love it!
       #Post#: 1277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unlimited brass & metal scrap! Items duping
   DIR By: CMonster
       Date: August 13, 2014, 11:56 am
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       It's up to each individual people if they want to dupe their
       game into boredom or not.  If you had a game crash and lost some
       stuff, maybe you could use it to neutralize the pain.
       Otherwise,  it's really only hurting the person doing the
       duping.
       Hopefully they will get this fixed so it doesn't linger as a
       temptation.  People will do it with the best intentions and then
       be like, "well, never need iron or brass again... now what
       should I do..."  Kinda takes away the whole point of the game -
       scrounging and survival.  It would be like playing Yahtzee with
       sets of dice that have the same number on every face, or using a
       Rubik Cube that is composed of only one color.
       And don't come to Grimtown wanting to trade your marked brass.
       We only want the real deal :0)
       #Post#: 1294--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unlimited brass & metal scrap! Items duping
   DIR By: Pitchburn
       Date: August 13, 2014, 5:23 pm
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       Hopefully they fix this and the conversation is null.
       I just checked a few other servers and if crafting is set to
       slow (which sucks because it is so slow!) you cannot dupe brass
       and metal scrap in this manner.
       I think that if there is a way to keep people from having to
       make the personal decision of whether to cheat or not, it should
       be used.
       If I’m going to spend 50 or 60 hours mining iron and my neighbor
       spends 20 minutes to make the same amount by using a well-known
       preventable dupe… It’s disheartening to me and throws *asterisks
       on everyone’s build(s) including mine. I agree Cookie, cheating
       is a fast track to boredom for the one cheating.   But
       ultimately, my main concern is how this game makes me feel.  I
       put in the time and effort but the cheater has more.  That
       pisses me off.
       Might as well open the give command to everyone if we are
       playing off an honor system.
       #Post#: 1297--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unlimited brass & metal scrap! Items duping
   DIR By: h0tr0d
       Date: August 13, 2014, 7:33 pm
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       I found you could 'dupe' brass like this, but not scrap iron. I
       might just be inept. I do get double the ore/stone when using an
       auger, or double the wood when using a chainsaw due to latency I
       suppose. I get the ore/wood and then the tree/rock/object
       flashes again and I finish it off a second time. So with
       augers/chainsaws I got double the output consistently. So did
       others I asked, as well.
       --- Quote from: BUCKMASTER link ---
       >
       > Here comes the Scrap Iron Mountain...  maybe we could build it
       over the starting city, entirely covering & encompassing the
       city in darkness, the Zeds would love it!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If metal trussing could be ramps and corners, I would have made
       a thunderdome already:)
       #Post#: 1299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unlimited brass & metal scrap! Items duping
   DIR By: Aknot
       Date: August 13, 2014, 7:51 pm
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       "I think that if there is a way to keep people from having to
       make the personal decision of whether to cheat or not, it should
       be used."
       O.O
       Then it is no longer a personal decision..... So in order to
       stop something that may or may not be happening you want us all
       to suffer with slow crafting?
       I have chose not to use safe or chest farms. Im glad to see
       others attempting to follow that. However if they do not it is
       no skin off my nose. So they can make a ton of casings. (what
       else is brass used for?)
       I don't see the need to put the hammer down until it appears it
       becomes a problem.
       #Post#: 1307--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unlimited brass & metal scrap! Items duping
   DIR By: h0tr0d
       Date: August 13, 2014, 10:37 pm
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       Yeah brass doesn't have much use other than casings, and it was
       too easy to acquire.
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