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The subject of subjects.
DIR By: respawn
Date: May 18, 2017, 7:32 pm
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"All your base are belong to us"
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: guest215
Date: May 18, 2017, 9:30 pm
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hoping that isnt my base
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: guest215
Date: May 21, 2017, 11:25 pm
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It was; wonder why are the doors were unlocked and open. Wise
man not to clean out the forges etc. (Not that you need said
items)
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: respawn
Date: May 22, 2017, 2:19 am
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From your past (in game) comments and from talking to others, it
seems you're not a happy camper, HR. I can understand that (or
the confusion), so I'm gonna lay my part out, but I can't speak
for other players who may or may not have been in that area.
A few days ago, I was digging a trap tunnel near the Ant-Hill
(AKA Bumbaloo's BABY Castle), but I was glitching out. Tried to
re-log... when I came back I kept getting a console error, and
for some reason, I could also see through the ground. (See
screen shot.) You can see I noticed a tunnel below me. I didn't
know anything about the tunnel before that, but I was going to
check it out with guns blazing. Sometimes this happens, or there
are gaps in the earth, where you can see underground. (People
know that.) After a few steps in the tunnel, I put a couple land
mines down on the top of ramps. I noticed how clean the tunnels
were dug, and said to myself, "This has to be the work of an
admin or admin tools."
That's when I realized it would be a good opportunity to set
some traps and close off four corner directions with claims.
Hence, the current removal of claim recipes and new A16 rule. (I
apologize to all the members about that one. Don't piss off the
admins.) Later, I got to the end near your base. Everything was
on lockdown, except for one door/area. The same door I told you
(in- game) about. It was on the southwest side, 3rd one down I
think (on the left if you're facing south). The door was open
(said locked when hovering over it). My guess was, someone left
it open. Took the tunnel east, then south to the inside of your
base. I'll walk you through my path in-game if you want. The
place is a labyrinth.
I didn't know it was your base until I saw the inside, and the
big H on the map. I remembered what it looked like from the end
of the youtube video (7MayIEnterTownBumbaloo posted May 7) when
you /home. There were a few sleeping bags I picked up. (That's
101 if you're inside someone's base.) I took two bikes, one
inside your base and another in the tunnel. There was also a 3rd
bike in the tunnels, but I didn't mess with that one. I didn't
take anything else or mess with the forges, like you said I
didn't need it. I did notice in the tunnels there were empty
storage chests, I didn't take anything from them, they were
already empty when I got there. I took the screenshot (above)
with the meme title of,
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us.<br
/>Hilarious if you ask me. Oh, days later AB42 told me that you
were pissed because someone cleaned out your tools, forges, and
I think food? The only things I took or messed with were your
bikes and sleeping bags.
Sorry for the novel. Hope this helps.
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: guest215
Date: May 22, 2017, 3:42 am
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I found some of your remarks condescending as well as insultory.
I am locking this thread until I have discussed the matter with
Madman.
Then I will address your implications.
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: Madman
Date: May 22, 2017, 9:22 am
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I know that h0tr0d locked this thread until he could talk to me
but call it owner privilege. I haven't talked to h0tr0d about
any of this yet and I didn't even know there were any issues
brewing. I will wait to talk with him before I form any further
judgement than I already have but I do feel inclined to respond
to some of the points you made NOW.
--- Quote ---
> I noticed how clean the tunnels were dug, and said to myself,
"This has to be the work of an admin or admin tools."
>
--- End Quote ---
As I haven't discussed this with HR yet, I won't say that this
is true or not but I will say that is a very asinine assumption.
I'm not even sure what that means. Any player with attention to
detail (or has OCD like myself) would dig a clean and straight
tunnel. Secondly, what does it matter if was done as you have
suggested? H0tr0d and I spend so much of our time running the
server. We help players find things, restart the server, fix
things, restart the server, address player disputes, restart the
server, vigorously research every new member application to make
sure we weed out the troublemakers, restart the server, keep the
website and forums updated, restart the server.....I think you
get the idea.
My point is I don't have a problem with HR taking some liberties
(if he is) to allow himself to play on par with the regular
players. With everything we do to keep the server enjoyable for
you guys, we would never get past level 5 and live in a 10 x 10
shack throughout the entire seed. We need to be able to have
some fun on the server too or what's the point? It's not like
this is our job. We don't get paid to do this.
We are always there for you, the players. We stop whatever we
are doing to address whatever issues arise. Almost every time I
get on the server to play, I have to stop playing to help
someone else. I'm not mad about it, that's just how it goes when
you are an admin. Our personal lives are constantly revolving to
some extent around the care of this server, whether we are lucky
enough to being playing at the time or not. If we are out or
away and shit hits the fan, one or both of us has to stop what
we are doing to address the issue. And this happens more
frequently than most of you are aware. In conclusion, so long as
we are not abusing our admin/owner status it should not matter
as it will not impact any players in a negative fashion. And I
think we both do what we can to avoid doing anything that would
make any of you suspect us of abuse. Hell, h0tr0d makes video of
almost every PvP encounter he has when playing just make sure he
has proof that no abuses were made should someone get upset.
--- Quote ---
> That's when I realized it would be a good opportunity to set
some traps and close off four corner directions with claims.
Hence, the current removal of claim recipes and new A16 rule. (I
apologize to all the members about that one. Don't piss off the
admins.)
--- End Quote ---
This statement really pisses me off because we have NEVER been
reactionary with our rule sets based on anything so petty and
trivial. I'll have you know I have been arguing for the one
landclaim per player idea for MANY months. As many players here
already know (as I have discussed the idea frequently on
teamspeak) I have been wanting to implement this ever since the
online/offline landclaim modifier settings were broken by the
developers. Weeks ago, h0tr0d and I finally agreed that we would
only allow for one landclaim per player and possibly make some
kind of very difficult quest or something along those lines to
allow a player to get another. Maybe as a reward or perk for
winning a server hosted event. The point is it had NOTHING to do
with you.
Finally, the last thing I want to say is that if you were
concerned there was a problem, you should have addresses h0tr0d
personally via PM or email. If you honestly felt as though there
was any abuse going going on, you should have addressed me
personally. I'm not sure what you thought this post would
accomplish. It was very passive-aggressive. I have never had any
problems with you in the past and I really don't want to think
that you meant to come across so hostile. I am going to unlock
this thread now as I want this discussion to be available to all
members for the purposes of full disclosure. I welcome any
response you may have.
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: Candor Falcon
Date: May 22, 2017, 11:09 am
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Keep up the great work on the server madman and hotrod!
Personally I don't care if you have purple everything from day
1! You deserve it.
Not that my opinion counts off anything, but with all you guys
do, you don't get to play like we do so some perks are within
your rights, and okay by me!
#Post#: 10721--------------------------------------------------
Full Disclosure
DIR By: Madman
Date: May 24, 2017, 11:46 am
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So this is for all of you that may have read this post earlier
and wondered what became of it. I tried to intervene and pacify
the situation but to no avail. I think it's important to show
everything that has taken place for the purposes of full
disclosure and to allow each of you to reach your own opinions.
Just as importantly, to allow h0tr0d the opportunity to respond
as well since this post was directed at him in the first place.
He was gracious enough not to react immediately in haste.
Instead, he waited to discuss things with me first. I commend
him for that self control. Anyway, here goes. First is the post
that I had deleted followed by all PM correspondence afterward.
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Then my PM to respawn:
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Reply by respawn:
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My response to respawn:
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My PM to respawn regarding my convo with HR:
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Reply from respawn:
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My PM to HR:
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H0tr0d's reply to me:
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And so here we are. It's all yours now hotrod.
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: respawn
Date: May 24, 2017, 1:08 pm
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If you want your bikes (& bedrolls) back, let me know. Also, my
offer to remove the claims in your tunnels still stands. : ]
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Re: The subject of subjects.
DIR By: guest215
Date: May 24, 2017, 1:57 pm
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I'll post my reply when I get back from the gym.
I wish you would've tried to contact me at some point in this.
I still fail to see your end-game or goal with all of this; if
you could impart or illuminate then perhaps it might help
matters.
I would also like to hear from others with whom I have PvP'ed if
they felt that I "harassed" them or there was "fallout" for
killing the admin or not being killed by h0tr0d during said
battles.
Be back in a bit.
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