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       #Post#: 9009--------------------------------------------------
       New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: Madman Date: July 10, 2016, 7:44 pm
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       This is pretty self explanatory. We have a very low server
       population at the moment with many people feeling like they've
       reached an "end game" and are waiting for the next update to
       play again. I personally believe that if we do a clean wipe of
       the server and start anew with the original Navesgane map, it
       will breathe new life into the server, enhance server population
       and give us something fun and different to do until A15 drops in
       a few weeks. A15 will require us to wipe anyway so even if we
       keep the server running on the current seed, it will still be
       wiped once the new update is released.
       Please vote and share your thoughts.
       I will discuss the pros and cons with h0tr0d before making a
       final decision but I want to hear from you, the players as well.
       Also, please know that all of our characters will likely have to
       be wiped as well. That means that all of us will be starting
       with zero skill points and at level one. So make sure you keep
       that in mind when deciding your vote.
       Thanks all! :)
       #Post#: 9010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: jscoolen Date: July 10, 2016, 7:55 pm
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       The reason I quit this server is because of the wipes without
       any warnings what so ever.
       I remembered that I made a very nice base, with underground
       concreet sewers all over town and then without any notice a
       server wipe, all the work gone.
       All I want to say that I like it that you are giving a warniong
       now!
       About the server wipe, I don't know. I wait for a15 and then
       decide what server I play on.
       #Post#: 9012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: Wolfangel Date: July 10, 2016, 8:20 pm
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       I'm new to this server and don't have anything to lose anyway,
       so I vote yes.  I think it would be fun to have a smaller world
       especially for pvp.
       #Post#: 9013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: Madman Date: July 10, 2016, 8:24 pm
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       [quote author=jscoolen link=topic=1429.msg9010#msg9010
       date=1468198537]
       The reason I quit this server is because of the wipes without
       any warnings what so ever.
       I remembered that I made a very nice base, with underground
       concreet sewers all over town and then without any notice a
       server wipe, all the work gone.
       All I want to say that I like it that you are giving a warniong
       now!
       About the server wipe, I don't know. I wait for a15 and then
       decide what server I play on.
       [/quote]
       I'm not replying to your comment purely to argue with you but
       your comment could not be more inaccurate. With only a couple of
       exceptions that I will explain in a moment, I have NEVER wiped
       this server without warning, EVER! And anyone who has been here
       through the server's nearly two and a half year lifespan will
       vouch for that. This server has ONLY been wiped as a result of
       updates that required it or because of a game breaking bug
       introduced by a new update. I have always posted here on the
       forum when that was a necessity. Just go the the old posts to
       see for yourself. I will admit that on some occasions in the
       past, the devs had said an update did NOT require a wipe but
       then once the server was updated it had broken the server
       requiring a last minute wipe due to no fault of our own. But
       even on those occasions, I made effort to communicate that with
       everyone as that happened. Maybe you have our server confused
       with another or maybe you did not read the forum to stay
       informed. You are entitled to your opinion of course but you are
       factually incorrect. Unless you felt for some reason that wiping
       when a new update required it was somehow a choice. I can assure
       you that it was not.
       I welcome anyone to correct me but I am certain you will find by
       looking through the old forum posts that I have been more than
       transparent with all issues pertaining to this server's
       operations, including server wipes as well as humanly possible
       given the buggy nature of this game.
       #Post#: 9014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: frankencow Date: July 10, 2016, 8:26 pm
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       I'm on-board with this.  I know it will be a lot smaller than
       our normal maps, but part of me is intrigued to see how much
       that by necessity drives extra PVE cooperation and PVP
       competition.
       @jscoolen.  I get where you are coming from there.  To be fair
       to h0tr0d and Madman, though, it seems like in the time I've
       been on this server they typically only have wiped because an
       official update required it or because the server fell on its
       face and there was no better option.
       #Post#: 9015--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: Mr.Bloodbank Date: July 10, 2016, 8:45 pm
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       I would say yes - but unfortunately due to black terrain on
        I can't play either way....
       #Post#: 9016--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: DALGODA Date: July 10, 2016, 8:56 pm
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       how we gone paly it pvp or pve
       #Post#: 9017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: Madman Date: July 10, 2016, 8:58 pm
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       [quote author=DALGODA link=topic=1429.msg9016#msg9016
       date=1468202204]
       how we gone paly it pvp or pve
       [/quote]
       Same setup. PvE North of zero, PvP South of it.
       #Post#: 9018--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: MidnightStranger Date: July 10, 2016, 9:10 pm
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       We got rain all week here, so I will be stuck indoors. Lets do
       it!
       #Post#: 9019--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: Let's Start a Navesgane Map Until A15?
       By: guest215 Date: July 10, 2016, 11:03 pm
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       The only times wipes ever happen "out of the blue" is because
       something is so broken there is no way around it.
       I do my best to keep things going as long as possible without a
       wipe and you have to understand...wipes are part of the reality
       that is a game in Alpha.
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