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       #Post#: 8193--------------------------------------------------
       Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: guest215
       Date: April 12, 2016, 5:54 pm
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       You can do a search in modded servers for Ground and find it
       or...
       69.162.77.66:
       Ok, had Rattleman log in and FPS started tanking again with
       rubber-banding of zombies. I did a list entities and saw 3
       minibikes 2 players.
       He mentioned he had lost a minibike under the world but it
       happened so often he got tired of reporting it and didnt report
       this.
       (TFP changed it so minibikes don’t fall through the world, they
       just spawn at wrong pos).
       
       It used to say in the log “fell off the world” and it won’t ever
       do that now. It just says “wrong pos”
       
       This didn’t cause an issue while the server was running. Once we
       transferred servers I think it became an issue.
       
       because….
       I located and removed that minibike and now every issue is
       solved. No rubber-banding, no fps spikes.
       Some people logged in and I started having spikes in fps.
       I re-logged and it fixed it.
       So what we will do is play here a day or so and see how it
       works.
       Then I will have testers try the other server and see if I have
       stabilized that as well.
       #Post#: 8194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: Rogue_Justice
       Date: April 12, 2016, 5:58 pm
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       Cant help but to think "why not remove the mini bikes." Iv seen
       these be a issue on many servers.
       #Post#: 8195--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: guest215
       Date: April 12, 2016, 6:09 pm
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       Also to note, when a player joins who is new to that seed, it
       seems as the game generates a new player and map file for them
       it makes some players fps spike.
       Re-log and it fixes this.
       #Post#: 8197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: guest215
       Date: April 12, 2016, 6:31 pm
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       bump
       #Post#: 8198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: poppawolf
       Date: April 12, 2016, 7:40 pm
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       Seems to be running much better for me. No more rubber banding.
       Still getting FPS spikes occasionally, but the relog fixes for
       me.
       Thanks for all the work on this, hotrod. You've got it playable
       again at least.
       I'll keep my fingers crossed.
       #Post#: 8199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: Gerick
       Date: April 12, 2016, 8:27 pm
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       8:23 central time today I put down an empty minibike frame.
       Immediately I was getting frame stutters, and someone else right
       away in chat said "My sound went out" which is a bug I've had
       before myself. I asked in chat if anyone had started lagging at
       that specific time and I got a few replies of yes.
       I picked up my minibike frame, and relogged, and the issue was
       back to being minimal.
       Ugh. These bikes are the scorn of the game.
       #Post#: 8200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: guest215
       Date: April 12, 2016, 9:12 pm
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       The minibikes no longer fall off the world.
       Instead they go to a "wrong pos" and causes major issues for the
       server.
       #Post#: 8201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: MidnightStranger
       Date: April 12, 2016, 10:04 pm
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       Lets just ban the cursed bikes for now until more updates come
       out
       #Post#: 8202--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: Malafunkshun
       Date: April 12, 2016, 11:13 pm
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       Fantastic troubleshooting, seriously.  More proof that the mini
       bikes are the door of all problems.  We could all use the
       exercise anyways.
       #Post#: 8204--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Old server up, issue resolved it seems
   DIR By: ScaryRabbit
       Date: April 13, 2016, 8:05 am
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       Yep, after my first ever try on a minibike on saturday that went
       missing, even with H0tr0d recovering it for me yesterday, I
       think I prefer much to restrain myself, and go running full of
       beer and coffee. I can plant tons of coffee already anyway. The
       only reason I could think of me using a bike again is to go deep
       in the south, since my base is almost 5000 in the north. But
       even this I can do whitout the minibike, making safe outposts in
       the path, and if need it be to go back fast, like horde day, I
       can use use /home.
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