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       #Post#: 7601--------------------------------------------------
       Thoughts on using crucible/tongs to make Brass using Copper and 
       Rock
       By: Killerpookz Date: February 21, 2016, 10:23 am
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       So after finding a crucible and tongs and not knowing what
       it is, I asked in world chat what it does and Rattleman directs
       me to the forum and a video. I watched the video and discover
       that it allows for the smelting of copper which was added to the
       server. Being a metalworker myself and knowing that brass (which
       I can NEVER get enough of) is made from Copper and Zinc, I
       immediately conclude that it would be awesome to be able to
       smelt brass.
       I did a little research to find out where zinc comes from
       and how much is in the "average" brass because I didn't pay
       attention to these things before and I think that most players,
       myself included, would like to keep things more realistic. So I
       find a website:
  HTML http://www.zinc.org/environment/.
       In the second
       paragraph, it says "Background levels of zinc in soil and rock
       typically range between 10 and 300 milligrams per kilogram." In
       mathematical terms, this means for an average rock:
       Zn = .001/1000 to .03/1000 or .00001% to .0003%
       I also found the average brass ratio to be from .75Cu/.25Zn to
       .65Cu/.35Zn
       Using these figures, I came up with the ration to make 1 scrap
       brass from Copper and Rock to be (using a 30% Zinc Brass and the
       highest concentration Zinc in rock)
       .7 pieces smelted copper and 1000 pieces of smelted rock.
       It would be easier to just round the copper up to 1, I think.
       Now this would still make Brass very rare and hard to get. You
       would also have to smelt the brass down to get your smelted
       brass for use in the forge because this would yield scrap brass.
       You could even gate the whole process behind a metallurgy book
       or something as well as the crucible.
       Sorry for the long-winded post and again, just something to
       think about.
       #Post#: 7604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thoughts on using crucible/tongs to make Brass using Copper 
       and Rock
       By: guest215 Date: February 21, 2016, 3:50 pm
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       I had zinc in game once as well as tin.
       It may be possible to do so again yet it can dilute what is in
       the layers of earth already and would require a new reset.
       I have had smelted brass in before; right now it is not on my
       list of things to do unless I implement a metallurgy skill. This
       may wait for a14 to see what they do with skills and progression
       as they do away with more recipe books.
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