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Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: September 22, 2014, 2:45 am
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Dear Member:
You have hit a few nails on the head, but the problem is your
head. Any decent guru is always playing games with you. Not in a
negative sense. He is a trickster who wants to trick your mind
into going to sleep, stepping aside or just seeing how silly it
is.
All exercises are b.s. because there is no one there to do them,
but, and this is a big but, you have a massive thinking system
rut that has to be leveraged out of. If I said religiously kiss
your pinky finger every ten minutes and you'd get enlightened,
and you did it, it might work. However there are slightly more
effective ways.
I want you to use your mind to show your mind that you have no
mind. Now, that's not an easy thing to pull off, as I'm sure you
know by now. I don't want devotees in the sense that they admire
me, I want folks to find a particular technique or method and
devote themselves to that method until it dawns on them. WTF,
this all a big joke. Then, you will (maybe) get it. Walk around
and say neti neti until you are blue in the face, but say it
with meaning, the deepest most thoughtful meaning you can,
contemplate one by one each item, most particularly your
thoughts and feelings. Do it for two or three years diligently,
or perhaps SA would suit you better.
Some folks sit down to do SA and just think 'Hell, I can't
write anything that's true', and they give up. That's a head
decision and not much use. SA is a contemplation.
I'm writing on a piece of paper. Is that true? Is this really
paper? Would I bet my life on it? And this pen, is it a pen? But
wait, 'I' am writing, is that true? Get the hang of it and you
can write what appears to others to be silly nonsense, hours and
hours, but is it silly? Is it nonsense, truly nonsense. Who is
asking all these questions? Is it true that these are questions?
Back to something that's true? Am I really sitting here? Where
is here? I am here? No, I'm not sure of that? Could I be
somewhere else?
Don't just whip this stuff out, volume isn't as important as the
contemplation of each sentence. You might write a statement at
the top of a page and then underneath is ask 'Is that true' and
list you thoughts about it. This is one of the best ways of
walking back the way you came in, backtracking if you will.
Do it as a true devotee and see what comes up. Just always come
back to something that is true. You will wander but that's just
fine. Your wandering might lead to something that is true, NOT
truthish, but TRUE.
You can just write out any one sentence and spend an hour
contemplating if it is really true. Who is saying it's true or
not. Where is the who who says so and on what basis? Is there a
house of cards here?
On and on it goes. Just try it. You would be amazed at what a
b.s.er you are. You're absolutely full of lies. Nothing true
ever comes out of 'mind' but that the fox hole we have to dig
our way out of... is that true???
love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 1549--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Jack
Date: September 22, 2014, 4:16 am
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That was a pretty damn good rant ;-)
#Post#: 3552--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: pixelmation
Date: October 28, 2014, 1:21 pm
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Ahhh yes...neti neti ;D
#Post#: 3723--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Notdan
Date: October 30, 2014, 12:01 pm
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What, if any, place do scientific 'truths' have in this process?
I'm thinking primarily of the ones promulgated by quantum
physics wherein particles are also waves of energy which
essentially flash on/off, here/there at the (alleged) speed of
light. This seems a fairly conclusive argument against any
objective reality to the seemingly physical universe
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Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: October 30, 2014, 12:09 pm
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Notdan:
I remember being in school and having a science teacher teach me
a law, then a few years later I was told that law was not true
and had to learn a new law, a few years later, another 'new'
law.
Now, being T/R doesn't mean I am brilliant, but at a young age I
realized that it was all made up. THEY WERE MAKING THIS CRAP UP.
Now, any kind of law should be value past, present and future to
enter my good books.
Scientist are making stuff up all the time, and we don't
question it. I don't really know, but I doubt if many are T/R
because their minds a closed tighter that a fishes you know
what.
Just my take. If you think science is going to T/R you.... well,
there are better ways, trust me. DO NOT turn to science to
confirm you beliefs, test them rigorously.
If they turn out to support you, use them, but don't believe
them.
Love ya, Jed.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 3731--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Notdan
Date: October 30, 2014, 2:30 pm
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Jed;
Even though I expected you to say something like that it still
felt like a punch in the gut. Apparently I have a lot of belief
structures tied up with science. Thank you for that punch!
Moro;
Thanks for the analogy. It seems right, but I need to run it
through the software a few times to grok its fullness.
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Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Stephan Caspers
Date: October 30, 2014, 4:03 pm
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NETI! I was waiting for my bus whilst reading this rant. NETI!
After tiring workday catching myself becoming an imaginary
drunkard!
NETI NETI, what? Come on, more thoughts? NETI! SHÍT KEEPS
COMING! Another! Shooting birds from the sky with a machinegun.
NETI! *hiccup*
Crazy hallucination ??? What absolutely did it for me was fully
breathing into the feeling/thought. Embarrass the little fcker.
Don't just blow the balloon, blow till it pops!
Love you NETI!,
Stephan
#Post#: 3743--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Nothing
Date: October 30, 2014, 8:33 pm
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Omg, stop with bullshit people, please. You're wasting your
time. Do exactly as Jed explained. It's the only path to the
simple empty truth.
IF you ever reach the conclusion, you'll be overwhelmed at
first. You'll literally observe that 'self' of yours start to
dissolve and eventually vanish... And hopefully then you won't
have any more questions to ask...
#Post#: 3744--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: October 30, 2014, 8:35 pm
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Dear Stephan:
Your profound quote 'Don't just blow the balloon, blow till it
pops!'
Another version of further, but a great way to express it. I may
use it, with your permission.
And YES George, how do I get these cats to herd. Darn........
Love ya, Jed.
POP!
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Re: Jed Rant on Truth
DIR By: Stephan Caspers
Date: October 31, 2014, 4:22 pm
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No permission needed, got none to give Jed ;) Well... except
strawberry bubblegum.
Love you,
Stephan
POP!
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