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       Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: June 26, 2016, 3:39 am
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       Settle into your experience and feel your physical sense. Is
       that apparent experience you? Nope, how could it be if you are
       experiencing it, or appear to be experiencing it. Try this also
       with hearing and seeing. Are any experiences ''you''? Spend some
       time with this.
       The perceived is the perceiver which only leaves the verb
       perceiving. Perceiving is all that is happening. You may think
       you are perceiving a you, but how is that difference than a
       sensorial experience? Isn't that experience of a ''you'' even
       more flimsy than the experience of sensing?
       Where does this leave ''us''. Simple... you are not, but this
       apparent universe is your self. All that you experience is self,
       that's why it's so challenging to step outside of it and view it
       (i.e., get it). Your sensory experience only appears to not be
       you.Who else could it possibly be? How could it be any other
       way?
       Contemplating doesn't mean attempting to make sense out of this.
       It's more like you might contemplate little fish in an aquarium.
       Just watch in wonder, like a child. The seeker is the sought and
       the sought is the seeker.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 22150--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: AlxVlad
       Date: June 26, 2016, 4:25 am
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       It seem so so very simple now.All of it, couldnt be simpler.
       What is hard is bringing honesty and humbleness in the desire to
       go where this journey leads.Most of the times I think I want TR
       just to be the best, projecting upon TR like people project upon
       a God although this misses entirely the point.  :o :o
       #Post#: 22151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: June 26, 2016, 4:38 am
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       Thanks Ares. Remember, this is not a race or a competition.  You
       are the finish line but have yet to realize it.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 22202--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: Stephan Caspers
       Date: June 27, 2016, 3:23 pm
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       The perceiver and the perceived, just like the finger pointing
       at the moon. There is no moon.
       #Post#: 30103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: bliss22_23
       Date: July 5, 2017, 9:24 am
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       Humor me with my play on words.
       Does these two statements mean the same?
       Perceiver and perceived is one thus, perceiving only.
       No perceiver and no perceived thus, perceiving only.
       Regards,
       Sam
       #Post#: 30111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: alighazi
       Date: July 5, 2017, 1:45 pm
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       I'm not whatever which can be perceived. simple.
       Now what cannot be perceived? nothing.
       I'm nothing.
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       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: bliss22_23
       Date: July 5, 2017, 4:58 pm
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       Dear alog,
       Maybe, in "Now what cannot be perceived?" It is the 'not' but
       the 'I am.'
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       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: alighazi
       Date: July 5, 2017, 11:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: bliss22_23 link ---
       >
       > Dear alog,
       >
       > Maybe, in "Now what cannot be perceived?" It is the 'not' but
       the 'I am.'
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       'I am' cannot be perceived?
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       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: bliss22_23
       Date: July 6, 2017, 5:55 am
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       I am is the consciousness. Consciousness perceiving
       consciousness. Don't ask me. Lol
       #Post#: 30134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: The perceived is ... 
   DIR By: alighazi
       Date: July 6, 2017, 7:05 am
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       Consciousness is made up concept which exists in duality only.
       right now I doubt even awareness exists or not, although nis
       claims it exists.
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