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Here again
DIR By: lonien
Date: June 7, 2016, 3:44 pm
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Hello there...
Somehow surprised by myself that I'm here again.
One important thing I want to share and maybe hear some of your
experience. How do you deal with your family? Cause seriously
this bunch of people that I'm related to is driving me nuts ;D
And maybe it means I'm not fully matured or whatever because I
let myself be stressed out by all of it but I have no idea how
to handle myself in this and feel like I'm squeezed into a frame
of who I was as a child and teenager and there are so many role
plays and patterns, it's really tiring. And people are telling
me to "be with it" and even I myself have started saying it in
my head but it's just not so much fun. (okay I can hear you
saying "who said it was going to be fun?" )
Another one, how did you get the hang of this "not making
decisions but sensing currents and flowing with them" thing. And
excuse me here but for someone who railing so much at the
"gurus" this sounds very much like all of them. What the heck,
you don't think? Somehow I don't buy it, but if you maybe tell
me a little more how you got there or what is essential for
getting there I'll try myself.
Cheers
Oh and lately I've found myself being a more heavy, dreamy,
thoughtful person with only sometimes humor. How do I keep
things light?
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Re: Here again
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: June 7, 2016, 11:11 pm
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Good to hear from you again.
Regarding family, I left them all. All fam all friends all
associates... It's the simplest way because the patterns go
back, in some cases, to the womb. Nothing to be gained from
trying to undo them all. It would take lifetimes. Just go for
the root, the sense of I, me, my or mine and that will take
care of it all.
Regarding thinking, you are quite right. If you 100% stop the
thinking process you will be a vegetable, or a ''mast'', or
''Sadhu'' as they are called in India. Sometimes there is a
thought ''I must go to the market and buy some fruit'' but it's
not my thought, just a thought passing through consciousness,
no me to claim ownership. It's the difference that makes a
difference.
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Here again
DIR By: lonien
Date: June 9, 2016, 9:35 am
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Great! That is exactly what I sometimes feel like, to just pack
my things and keeping contact to a minimum (maybe calling on
birthdays ::) )
No but really, I feel like I'd be running away from something.
Might be the simplest way but is simple always "right"?
How did you explain it to them?
Also right now I'm kind of lost...I'm trying to figure out what
to do with my life and everything seems senseless sometimes and
then in another minute everything seems SO exciting, so many
possibilities. I mean there is something I "have" to do but
...how do I make decisions when it comes to that? It's mind
shit, but somehow I need to decide right? aaaahhh driving me
nuts ??? How do you do this?
#Post#: 21890--------------------------------------------------
Re: Here again
DIR By: lonien
Date: June 18, 2016, 5:08 pm
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First of all I'm not suicidal, but this questions might sound
like I am.
When I'm busy going around in circles in my mind at somer point
I always come to the conclusion "it doesn't matter (anything and
everything). I will never understand anything anyways."
And somehow this feels very very true and calming. But if
there's no deeper sense, no point...Why would I continue doing
anything, including to keep on living?
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Re: Here again
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: June 19, 2016, 1:29 am
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I'm quite sure that if Ramana's devotees and friends had not
taken care of him during his early ''bliss'' experiences he
would have simply wasted away to the point of death. Indeed, it
is reported that he was pretty close to leaving his body. The
body meant nothing to him and he had to be more or less force
fed.
Thousands of people simply disappear from the face off the earth
every year. I would be very surprised if a number of them where
not simply so overwhelmed with their experiences that they just
walk off into the nether lands (no, not Holland, but maybe some
where Dutch, who knows) and subsequently dropped their space
suits.
Humans think the body is very important and it's not, other than
continuation of the human space suit race. Species of all kinds
of animals have gone extinct in the past and it's only human
arrogance that thinks it won't. The earth doesn't need us in any
way, shape or form. One day, poof... but who cares?
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Here again
DIR By: lonien
Date: June 19, 2016, 7:09 pm
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So you're saying it's all meaningless anyways and none of it
matters and at some point the earth is going to collapse and
BOOM everything is over?
I mean not that you could know..
Okay no I think my real question is, is there really no sense or
do I and every other human being just don't get the sense?
#Post#: 21924--------------------------------------------------
Re: Here again
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: June 19, 2016, 11:55 pm
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What do you mean by ''sense''.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 22130--------------------------------------------------
Re: Here again
DIR By: lonien
Date: June 25, 2016, 9:21 am
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To be honest, I'm not sure what I mean! I was laughing a little
bit when I read your question. It seems like my mind can't
really grasp it or I'm just not good enough to put it into
words. I want to try though...
Like..is there something behind things than the mere happening
of events? Oh god, I'm not very good at explaining it. Let's
see...
Okay I think I found something to show what I mean. Let's say we
have a seed and at some point it sprouts, which is a beautiful
act in itself. But it's kind of also the preparation for it to
become a plant and blossom at some point, produce seeds again
and then eventually die off.
So in the "now" of the plant there is already a preparation for
a certain future (whichever it will be, blossoming or dying
early). Maybe this is what I mean by is there a sense behind it.
Like, the seed is sprouting and for now that's all that needs to
happen and that's all the "sense" there is but also it is
bearing a billion possible futures in it....
Ah well whatever ;D Do you get what I mean though?
#Post#: 22132--------------------------------------------------
Re: Here again
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: June 25, 2016, 11:03 am
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At the level of the dream, this is accurate. At the level of
Truth, all is very different.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 22139--------------------------------------------------
Re: Here again
DIR By: lonien
Date: June 25, 2016, 8:18 pm
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Wow :o
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