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Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: abrakamowse
Date: May 28, 2016, 6:08 pm
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Dreams are made of concepts
#Post#: 21108--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Mori
Date: May 30, 2016, 3:21 pm
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:o profound! Very wow!
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Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: May 30, 2016, 10:39 pm
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Dear L:
What do you mean by ''real''? Are you sure there even is a
dreamer? What if dreaming was like perceiving, no dreamer,
nothing dreamt, just dreaming happening?
Love ya, Jed.
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Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Winston
Date: May 31, 2016, 11:46 am
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Knowledge taking form as form, comes to mind. By not
manipulating, striving, knowing, then I feel the dream reveals
itself. The expected may not occur, and quickly the mind notices
and the remembered gets inserted, but in time, actully its not
in time at all, its when time appears to stand still, that
things that are supposed to continue also remain unchanged, and
it only takes one of these NON doings for the lot to go kaboom.
This body/mind/world, is just an appearance like any other
appearance, what knows of this, appears to be outside of this,
and its from that positionless position that time and movement
deviate. Intention to get to the bottom of things is likely a
must, but Im new at all this. Talking about it, and as such, Im
probably ranting like a goat.
#Post#: 21147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: May 31, 2016, 12:26 pm
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Dear Ranting-like-a-goat:
Don't be too hard on yourself. For a newbie you are doing just
fine. Remember, this is all bout the first person, ''I, me, my
and mine''. Stick with that. Where are you? What are you? Who
are you?
Love ya, Jed
#Post#: 21151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Tetirtat
Date: May 31, 2016, 12:54 pm
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They are made of moving color and images. Just perception,
nothing more
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Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Winston
Date: May 31, 2016, 7:27 pm
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Dear Love Ya Jed ::),
Where am I? Ultimately I dont know. On an experiencial level,
post purging for many many months, there came a time where the
confines of being, that was initially felt to be contained
within the skin, well as wierd as this may sound, the not me is
somehow experienced, and I cannot deny it. Hence no longer being
identiied with anything at all, it could rightly be stated that
the felt unbound nothinglessness implies I am all, as well as
beyond that to. Talking freely about this, is somewhat newish -
hence the goat comment.
To put it another way, the only certainty known is that by an
inferance all of this is showing up within awareness, and never
not.
With respect to awareness, a question once posed was, IS this a
quality you have or are. The latter is the case i feel is apt,
and is because its outside the realm of change, hence time. Its
something that just is, and hasnt stopped being the case.
Awareness isnt coming, going, like attention sometimes does, the
play of conscioiusness does, Awareness encapulates the lot, and
Awake is simply AWAKE. You cant get to what you already are, or
where you are, for you are already that. So that is what Id have
to state I am. That probable cuts through the potential of bs in
this matter.
Id also have to state that any description wont cut it.
Well since Im speaking up, this feeling that one is flowing,
moment to moment, well for here, there is no flow period, what
is seen, the appearances are the only thing appearing to move,
but not whatever I am. The identification with that self, the
perceiver perceving the percieved withered, and here I am in the
land of change talking about not change. One is real, as in
really being the thing appearing, the other is truth,
#Post#: 21169--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Jed McKenna
Date: May 31, 2016, 11:18 pm
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Thank you all for sharing.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 21181--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: Lian
Date: June 1, 2016, 2:38 am
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In a dream objects seem real, but they are all in the mind, like
in a virtual reality. The mind takes the information from the
waking state, from waking consciousness, and recreates a
'reality' in the dream.
In the waking state, the mind takes the information from the
senses and builds a similar virtual 3D reality that we all seem
to experience.
For instance, eyes have 2D vision, but we see a 3D world.
Unconscious inference makes one see what he/she expects to see.
If you look at a tree, instead of seeing a contour in an image,
which is what eyes perceive, you see a complex 3D object and may
even recall some poems you know about that tree. The information
about 3-dimensionality, about different qualities of the parts
of the tree (branches, leaves, etc.), along with memories and
emotions evoked by the image of the tree, all are added such
that a complex image is formed in your mind and that is what you
perceive.
By dreamer I mean the soul, the source of consciousness, the
truth within.
#Post#: 21198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jed Rant... You are NOT!
DIR By: mariam
Date: June 1, 2016, 12:57 pm
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--- Quote ---
> William Shakespeare, in The Tempest, said it this way, ''We
are such stuff as dreams are made of''.
>
> This could have been Ramana, Nisargadatta or a few others (not
as many as folks would think) who uttered these words and at the
same time had a profound awareness of what they mean. Simple and
straightforward. What are your dreams made of? Not what do they
contain, or are about, that's just data. What are they made of?
>
> Feel free to dream up something to say.
>
> Sweet dreams, Jed.
--- End Quote ---
''We are i am such stuff as dreams are made of on''
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