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       #Post#: 18786--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Don't know how to fully know I don't know, even though I
       don't know
   DIR By: Cognizer
       Date: March 8, 2016, 10:05 am
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       So, to say that I'm a 1.5: I understand that awareness holds my
       perceptions, thoughts, body, etc. I get that, but only from
       having been told. Though it is obviously "true" (I mean, what
       could I possibly know that wasn't a perception perceived by
       awareness), I don't go through the day as if it were true. The
       day is spent as if I'm my body.
       As for the rest of it: To say that there is no universe, that
       there is an unimaginable structure, and that "nothing ever
       happened" is, to my current state, wild and, well, "trippy" says
       it best. It sends the mind reeling and also wanting to
       understand. Even though it knows it can't understand, it spins
       and spins wondering and toying with the concepts (that's all
       they are to me right now). Some of that is fun, to be sure, but
       it doesn't get the mind out of the way.
       More to the point, to say there is no universe is, to the
       imagined separate self that I am, is not something that is
       simple, not something that I could possibly "just not be
       noticing."
       If you really know nothing, and are trying to just teach us to
       know nothing, then why is it "the universe doesn't exist"
       instead of "maybe the universe doesn't exist"? Maybe it's NOT
       all perception, maybe there is matter. How on Earth would I
       know?
       #Post#: 18788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Don't know how to fully know I don't know, even though I
       don't know
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 8, 2016, 10:11 am
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       I only know that I don't know, but it's deeper than that, I can
       not know.
       Why bother with all this writing them... it's a game, you adopt
       a persona and play it out. I change persona's more than I can
       count each day, but I never believe them, and neither should
       you... yours or mine.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 18795--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Don't know how to fully know I don't know, even though I
       don't know
   DIR By: Cognizer
       Date: March 8, 2016, 12:34 pm
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       It's amazing to me how little I understand of all this after so
       much investigation.
       Would you kindly answer this: Is the truth, seen from the POV of
       the separate self, mind blowing or humdrum?
       #Post#: 18809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Don't know how to fully know I don't know, even though I
       don't know
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 8, 2016, 9:17 pm
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       Stop seeking to know what to expect. Nothing is all you should
       expect. Just be with what is and drop all that stupid thinking.
       You can't imagine it and can't prepare for it... other than
       growing up a little.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 18813--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Don't know how to fully know I don't know, even though I
       don't know
   DIR By: Cognizer
       Date: March 8, 2016, 9:51 pm
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       Ok, fair enough. I guess there is one thing I'm getting at that
       may not be obvious. You and many others out here seem to be so
       close to saying there's nothing to get. It would be easier to
       drop thinkg and expectation if I know it's not all for not (even
       if it is, literally, all for nothing. )
       #Post#: 18815--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Don't know how to fully know I don't know, even though I
       don't know
   DIR By: Cognizer
       Date: March 8, 2016, 9:54 pm
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       I'm sorry, I can't leave this alone ... Much of the reason I'm
       here instead of hounding one of the other many gurus out there
       is that you seem to be so much a thinking man. It seems from
       your books that you got there through thinking and it seems from
       your books that you continue to do much thinking ...
       #Post#: 18818--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Don't know how to fully know I don't know, even though I
       don't know
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 8, 2016, 11:12 pm
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       Yes, thinking seems to occur here but with a big difference.
       There is no ''I'' involved and no believing it involved. It is
       perceived as pure fun and entertainment, a light as a feather.
       Love ya, Jed.
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