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       Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 27, 2016, 12:30 am
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       Dear Member, Lurkers, Shill, and yes, you Hillary supporters
       too:
       "What do you really want?". Sounds like a set-up question for an
       new age seminar. O.K., maybe it is a set-up, but let me
       hallucinate and see if you agree.
       What you want is simple, happiness without any sorrow. Just sit
       with that for a moment. How  does it feel? Not depending on what
       anyone else might think about it or you and not depending on any
       anticipate Jed (El Grando Poobah of the Lodge of Lost Souls)
       response, is this what you really want? Not what you say you
       want, have told the world you want, but what you really want? No
       need to over complicate things, just happiness without any
       sorrow. I'd pretty confident that it is what you want, so what
       is all the hoopla about Truth Realization/Enlightenment and the
       like?
       I think pointers will work best here:
       1.) Not to be diminished because I think it's a biggie, T/R is
       very cool, it's in vogue and has drawn millions to it's promise,
       which promise is often unspoken.
       2.) Ah yes... the promise. Call it bliss, non-duality, Advaita,
       anything you want, the implied promise is release from the
       sufferings of this world and what you really want... happiness
       without any sorrow.
       Contemplate how many weird and wonderful things you have done to
       attain HWAS. I'll bet you have done a myriad of activities,
       acquisitions, etc. BUT, have you attained HWAS. I'm not talking
       about the brief form of excitment and anticipation many folks
       interpret as happiness, I mean an enduring HWAS. Really look
       into this, has the super hubby or wifey brought it, the great
       job, the new car, degree, house, travel adventures. That form of
       happiness is transient at best and almost always is follow by a
       ''come down''. I wouldn't even call it happiness, it is actually
       a slightly quieter state of mind experience after a frenetic
       trying to get the happiness-related-thingy.
       This quieting of the mind is the only real and enduring HWAS and
       what you experience as emotions (conversations in your head
       about physical experiences, feelings, in your body) is the
       continuous disruptor of that sense of peace. I have said it
       before and it bears repeating.
       [center][/center]Emotions promise that they will give you by
       keeping them,
       [center][/center]exactly what you get by releasing/letting go of
       them.
       Emotions are not the answer, they are the problem. Look around
       you at the things in our system that are designed to churn up
       your emotions. They are everywhere. How may things, out there,
       are helpful in quieting your emotions. Does TV quiet them,
       advertising quiet them, education quiet them, society, war,
       institutions, courts, governments, police, armies, or, how about
       getting down to basics, were your parents competent at creating
       peace and enduring happiness in your family which you could
       model when older. Mine sure weren't but they taught me a heck of
       a lot at an early age, and I am grateful.
       Remember, a feeling is something you can experience in your
       body, a pain, pressure, heaviness, maybe butterflies. An emotion
       is a conversation about a feeling. This is a very practical
       distinction to make. Which is closer to the now, to reality, to
       direct experience; a feeling (in your body) or an emotion
       (conversation in your head)?
       Back to my question, what do you really want? In my experience
       H/A can bring happiness, wonder and joy. T/R is unimaginable and
       indescribable. depending on how adult you are, it can be very
       disruptive until settled into. I strongly suggest growing up
       (H/A) prior to pursuing T/R.
       That's my story and I'm sticking to it for a least the next 10
       minutes.
       Love ya, Jed
       
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       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: Kati
       Date: February 27, 2016, 2:57 am
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       Thanks Jed  :-*
       Love,
       Kati
       #Post#: 18452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: Mori
       Date: February 27, 2016, 5:27 am
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       H/A seems attainable by the characters in the play, by
       effectively learning and applying what is learnt in life, this
       seems to make circumstances more preferable.
       T/R however, seems to just happen when it happens.
       Love, Mori
       #Post#: 18454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: Frits
       Date: February 27, 2016, 6:11 am
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       For as long as I can remember all I really wanted was the truth.
       I never cared much for happiness.
       #Post#: 18456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: Stephan Caspers
       Date: February 27, 2016, 6:54 am
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       All I can say to what I want, is to simply be. Like George
       Clooney would say, "What else?"
       #Post#: 18459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 27, 2016, 7:06 am
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       ::) :P 8)
       #Post#: 18460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: guest101
       Date: February 27, 2016, 7:20 am
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       I WANT my cup of tea, and I WANT it now!
       with suggar please but not to much.
       #Post#: 18463--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: j(
       Date: February 27, 2016, 9:42 am
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       Wanting the peak experience without the valleys is a futile
       game. Indeed a childish understanding of the way things work.
       The ups and downs are the same thing from my point of view. All
       just part of the ride. A necessary contrast.
       Seeing that one cannot exist without at least some understanding
       of the other is the true freedom that one gains from experience.
       When one truly understands this only then can one appreciate
       both for what they are.
       It's all happiness, love, abundance, bliss or whatever feel good
       you wish to insert at that point. This side of the void it's all
       good.
       #Post#: 18465--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 27, 2016, 10:30 am
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       One of my points was don't confuse happiness with Truth
       Realization. Human Adulthood is about happiness, and paving the
       way to T/R with a more gentle integration of it into what
       remains of your human existence.
       It's not that complicated. First grow up then find out your True
       Nature.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 18467--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jed Rant: What do you really want?
   DIR By: j(
       Date: February 27, 2016, 10:54 am
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       It's actually not complicated at all. Perhaps a more profound
       understanding is that it's not a step by step process rather
       than an understanding that all things, thoughts, experiences are
       empty in essence. They are permission slips to feel. Happiness
       is a choice. Not a path. TR seems to be the popular permission
       slip around here. I prefer to skip to the end result. No method
       required. Although feel free to "grow up" first if that's what
       you think you need.
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