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       #Post#: 609--------------------------------------------------
       Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: September 5, 2014, 8:52 am
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       At the moment there is one big lie in my life.
       I say i want to die. I mean i want to die as in disappearing
       complely, me, myself, and I.
       But it's a lie. The reason i'm stil here is that, at the moment
       of truth i couldn't handle it, and fell back in all my hatred
       for my so called outer tormentors, or rather myself projected in
       shadows of so called orthers who tormented me. My choice was:
       rather be in hell than losing it all. How stupide can you be, i
       aks myself?
       So there's the lie, rather then acept my own stupidness i say:"
       i want to die,"when it's really out of the question that i want
       to die really. There is allways the first this and that issue...
       And the issue is how can i torment myself as much as posible. It
       sounds awfull, i know, but's the truth when i be honest.
       Ok background: really doesn't matter, what i wrote above is it.
       Questions?: not at the moment. Just trying to find my way back
       to what's real, so that means give up the illusionary story of
       me, myself and i, and most of all the selfhatred and wanting
       satisfaction in that.
       Easy task i would say....
       So what's left? Really don't know...
       #Post#: 610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: September 5, 2014, 8:59 am
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       Dear Grump:
       I think you understand pretty well that there has to be a you
       there in order to suffer. I think you can figure things out.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: September 5, 2014, 9:31 am
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       Hai Jed, that was quick....
       Yes i do and think so to. How many years it will take before i
       give up my wanting and demanding even, don't know.
       Although, i have to put some feathers in my own ass for
       projecting some shadows that assist me in finding  my way back.
       If i'll be listing or understand in my currently status, for al
       that matter, is hole different story, :-D
       In time i maby write some more, don't know. For now i leave it
       at lurking, that's for all the best i think....hahaha
       See you later, and thanks.
       #Post#: 624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: September 5, 2014, 12:25 pm
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       Dear Sparrow:
       No problem, go into hibernation. You may get something from
       reading other folks post and my various responses. It's a good
       idea to pretend each response was written ONLY for you, no one
       else.
       Love ya, Jed (and each was actually written only for you, that's
       not b.s.).
       #Post#: 639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: September 5, 2014, 6:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: Jed McKenna link ---
       >
       > Dear Sparrow:
       >
       > No problem, go into hibernation.
       --- End Quote ---
       Hai Jed, Go into? I'm already into hibernation.....
       --- Quote ---
       > You may get something from reading other folks post and my
       various responses. It's a good idea to pretend each response was
       written ONLY for you, no one else.
       --- End Quote ---
       Like the 'various' in your responses :-D. But all joking
       aside.....About the rest: just my thoughts and feeling, so
       agreed
       --- Quote ---
       > Love ya, Jed (and each was actually written only for you,
       that's not b.s.).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Please tell me what b.s. means, thks
       Greatz Sparrow
       #Post#: 650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: September 5, 2014, 11:49 pm
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       Dear Sparrow;
       'not b.s.' means I am not making it up, every reply I right is
       for you, learn, enjoy, reject, up to you, but they are intended
       just for you.
       #Post#: 663--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: September 6, 2014, 5:51 am
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       Thks For explain what b.s. means. About the rest.....grumpy is
       popping up now, i did understand what you said Jed..... So there
       was no need to go into repitition; says grumpy, forgetting about
       your freedom to say what ever you feel the need to say.
       By the way i was thinking about the hibernationthing last night.
       I found myself awake in coffin deep underground, hellish dreams
       that usely consume me and keep me away form realizing the truth
       from where i am at the moment where gone for a minute or two.
       Fear is running truth my veins, i'm dieing. My God why it's
       taking this long - stupid question, i know - breathing stil
       going strong. I think about what is really freaking me out and
       how real it is what this freaking is build on. I just frighten
       myself and there is really no need to do that. I'm dieing, i
       like to celebrate this moment before if fall afsleep again.
       #Post#: 665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: September 6, 2014, 6:21 am
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       Faling afsleep rignt now. Feel stupid, thinking i did missed the
       point of your repeating words i already agreed on.
       My insecurity as result of my so-called blindness is popping in.
       It's a great wapon Maya uses to disarm me. Your blind what do
       you know she says. I'm down and out, head is spinning from the
       blow. What? Just shaken a little, thinks are clearing up now, i
       think....
       #Post#: 688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: September 6, 2014, 11:14 am
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       Dear Jed,
       Just finished reading Jed McKenna's notebook. Just want to share
       some thinks that touched me and did fall in to place with what i
       did poorly try to make clear in my first post. Second: the talk
       with Maggie about observation which ends with the frase about
       killing the actor.  This is it, that's what i'm trying to figure
       out. I mean i'm suicidal in that way, just don't know how
       to...i'm the one who creates Maya for some reason. I'm the
       sourse of it all. I really need to die course maya can only die
       when i die. Enough is enough, there comes a time when your done
       playing in this wonderes world or universe we have been
       creating. You understand what i mean Jed?
       And then first the thing that left me crying a little bit is the
       last chapter of the book in some kind of recognition. In my
       case: when death woke me up and everything fell apart,death and
       me made love and then, in mutual consent, we departed in full
       awareness from what to come. I walkend back into this world,
       complely naked, straight into my own hell. And there was ego who
       jumpt on me to rip me apart. Oh i was so dispointed that i jump
       of a mental clif straight into darkness. I felt every negatief
       thing that ego's think about themself as my own. I was so sick
       of me that I rejected even to eat or drink. Then there was that
       inner voice commending me to go out and do something nice for
       myself. I was so afraid to go out, but i did. The lid was on the
       pot from that moment on. It took 3 month before i came to myself
       a little bit. Than i went out again to the sticks and stones,
       learing to deal with ego, and now i'm where i'm, i'm done.
       Taking my last steps, need to remember, i know the way i'v been
       there, route is somewhere in the back of my mind. Maybe leading
       me already without me knowing consciously
       At times i get so angry about what happend during the last few
       years, but then again it was nessesary to fall back as far as i
       did and make the choices i made to fall even deeper to the
       bottem of the pit. Out of all my disepointment came this light,
       i'm done. I told a few people about my longing for death, they
       think i'm talking about comitting suïcide my body. But this is
       going much deeper than that. I'm talking about destroying the
       universe, time and space and all in it including me as a or the
       creator of it.
       And all this from reading a book, just felt the need to
       share.....
       #Post#: 700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Grumpy and old
   DIR By: Sparrow
       Date: September 6, 2014, 1:05 pm
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       Well, Well, my little loveble sparrow, what you said about being
       sick about you blabla is not intirely true is it?
       The trues is that you collected all the ego**** arround you
       becourse you resisted the trues about you. All that ego you
       stept into was just an easy getaway you could blame for your
       incompetence to accept. You where no better then anyone else for
       that matter, and you know that if you honest to yourself.
       :-* Grumpy
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