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       #Post#: 10468--------------------------------------------------
       pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 23, 2015, 9:47 pm
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       Thanks for the pointer, I forgot to check which finger.
       #Post#: 10470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 23, 2015, 10:35 pm
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       Hey Robert:
       Please don't keep starting new threads. Just use one and right
       on it. It's easier to follow for both of us.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 10476--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 23, 2015, 11:42 pm
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       Jed, my posts of late have been me blowing off steam, and
       you putting up with it. An inconsequential waste of time and
       words, but it appears to have occurred. Understood concerning
       the threads.
       R.
       #Post#: 10521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 25, 2015, 11:12 pm
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       What's the point of the pointing? If the only response to
       why, is why not? If the world has no meaning? To glimpse the
       all, or is or that, so that some un-namable thing can find the
       world in itself, or to see itself in or as the world.
       You're right Jed, there's nothing mystical, magical, or
       spiritual in any of it. Infinitely void. I wear a double dorjie,
       not for any spiritual reason. It just reminds me of the vision I
       had when I had my first seizure. Ridged body, screaming in my
       ears, and an explosion of color in my head. The dorjie crossed
       in the center, with an explosion of red, orange, and gold/yellow
       radiating out. The double dorjie looks like a cross of equal
       length. And it's meaning is the symbol for the conclusion of all
       action, for the Absolute in every direction.
       For the conclusion of all action, I never understood, fully
       understood, until now. And I have no control in any of it, I
       didn't even begin this "path" voluntarily. It was started for me
       with that first vision, I didn't even know it had begun.
       #Post#: 10529--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 26, 2015, 11:03 am
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       Jed is the final hurdle in this race, and instead of jumping
       over "him", I stopped running and tried to engage him in a
       thoughtful, and earnest conversation. My story is an illusion,
       to which I cling then let go of, sink for a second, then grab
       back on to as if I might drown, as if I could drown..
       There has never been a final answer, there never will be.
       (Thanks for the song, Gromer, love the Floyd)
       Done was always an illusion too, you could never finish that
       which was never begun.
       #Post#: 10541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 27, 2015, 3:34 am
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       I read a few of my posts and I have to wonder who in the
       world wrote that, it seems like I have a split personality, or
       that I'm playing two roles in an imaginary film. A film that has
       only one viewer who simply sits, as if, waiting for something or
       someone to emerge.
       I know less and less as time appears to pass.
       #Post#: 10544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: March 27, 2015, 4:46 am
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       Wait till you know nothing, then the fun begins.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 10569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 27, 2015, 12:45 pm
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       I do know small things, that you also know, eating, washing
       dishes, so don't give me this bs about knowing nothing. I DON'T
       know who, what, where, how, or anything else. But you can
       obviously type, craft a story, which you could of course say
       that these seemingly gifted actually flow (there's that word)
       through you that you actually have nothing to do with it.
       Although, that's exactly it, it's releasing the rudder maybe
       breaking off the handle, yet trust must be a earned, so the
       rudder stays.
       I keep picturing  a light bulb, one who understands that it
       is a bulb and that it will one day burn out, it understands
       everything about itself and  that understanding has become its
       crutch, its consolation prize, it needs to throw away the crutch
       and to allow the flow of electricity "the light" to guide it.
       (Corney and overly simplistic, but that's what I felt/saw)
       This is where the real cutting away begins.
       #Post#: 10570--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 27, 2015, 2:49 pm
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       Now to just peel open that head and take a look one piece
       at a time, what have I gathered that looks ans and sounds
       enlightened, or truth realized. One, that I don't exist, well
       that sounds good but something is thinking these thoughts and
       creating the appearance of words and typing. Not provable,
       either way, just some idea that I shoplifted from someone else.
       Two, I have no control in my life. Again, sounds great,
       very awake, yet totally unproven and even unprovable. I can
       choose a meal, or at least I seem to do it several times a day.
       Couldn't choose my death, didn't choose my birth, if either
       thing even happened. Which begs the question did I even choose
       my meal or even eat one at all.
       When I look at my hand it does seem to have a solidity to
       it, but in universal terms I know that it doesn't. When I back
       off to consciousness it all fades, and even those ideas are
       borrowed. I've become the ultimate shoplifter of ideas, beliefs,
       memories, truths.
       #Post#: 10571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pointing
   DIR By: r.
       Date: March 27, 2015, 3:54 pm
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       (I'm going to use words like something, nothing, I, get over
       it. That's how language works)
       I've been whittling a piece of wood (my life, and self) down
       to those things I knew or to Truth. Since I was told, "that
       truth exists", and I took for granted that it did. From the
       words I Am, I constructed an entire new story. Upon further
       examination I find, nothing that I can hold up and say this is
       truth.
       The edges grow dim, the lights turn down, and void.
       It's all still here, of course, and yet I can sense the infinite
       whole behind it all.
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