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       #Post#: 8176--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: January 12, 2015, 3:25 pm
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       Yeah ive noticed that,  things that can be perceived in
       different ways arent me or dont have any relevance to whatever i
       am. I understand that i must see through the garbage until im
       left with something true. The meaning of truth is becoming
       clearer the past few days,  conceptualized of course as im not
       TR but I can still see how every process is like a question to
       be answered and once anything comes into contact with truth it
       becomes answered in a way that it loses its authenticity or
       weight aka connection to me. Therefore becoming obsolete.
       When i first read the damndest i think it was(the one with that
       intros with the 5 minute logical breakdown of truth) i couldnt
       understand when you stated that truth must be true no matter
       what the conditions were but i can see now what you meant. That
       truth burns or overcomes whatever is confronted by it.
       Im yet to see what is left after truth has burned everything
       away or if it ever will burn everything away.
       I know that everything must be burned through in order to
       reach TR but I dont feel a deep burning feeling every second of
       the day to use truth,  i get the urge to fill my head with even
       more shit. And i hate myself for it, ive always been a bit of a
       lazy bastard.
       #Post#: 8183--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 12, 2015, 11:47 pm
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       ;)
       #Post#: 8212--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: January 13, 2015, 3:39 pm
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       The whole ordeal of life is very stressful at the moment in my
       life, I've been searching for truth for a long time and I have a
       good idea of what it is but the concept i have of truth really
       isn't helping me at all.
       In fact its done more bad than good,  thinking and
       thinking and thinking about stuff that i think will lead to an
       explosion of everything i believe but I've seen no evidence for
       TR apart from the two experiences ive explained to you before.
       All I do is read a bit of TR material here and there,  meditate
       and go on this. The driving factor is a want for freedom but Im
       starting to think im wasting my time. I dont want to live a
       false life but im not sure there's anything i can do.
       Jed,
       I think i understand that you must sometimes hold back exactly
       what you think because gurus are supposed to say things that
       will affect the seeker in a way to keep them going further but
       in your honest opinion,  judging by the small amount of contact
       we've had,  do you think i will become TR or will i end up on my
       deathbed after wasting so much time and energy still asleep?
       Id rather try and squeeze whatever a false life has to offer of
       all it has than pursue TR any longer and have it be for nothing.
       #Post#: 8214--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 13, 2015, 7:58 pm
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       Dear Zade:
       I get your frustration, but you think there is some 'thing' to
       find and there isn't. No one can tell if you will 'get' it or
       not, but I am pretty darn sure it comes with the gift of death.
       If you think it will make things all bright and rosy, then that
       thought will stop you. You have no idea what it is because it's
       not an idea.
       Go or stay, it's not my say, but blessing on your journey.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 8235--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: January 14, 2015, 4:53 pm
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       Thanks Jed,
       The fact that it comes with death doesn't repulse me,  the pain
       i feel is due to there being a me and without the me there can
       only be fluid experience without hesitation which is exactly
       what i want. Weightless, easy, *clear* experience.
       Do you mind me asking what sort of practice you were doing post
       your TR revelation? Ive tried spiritual autolysis but I end up
       just writing a load of un-directed nonsense. Im looking for
       something that will get me TR and Im desperate.
       
       #Post#: 8250--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 15, 2015, 12:28 am
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       Hi Zade:
       After T/R there is no difference between living, dying, loving,
       hating, waking, sleeping, and at the same time it's now all
       meditation. Infinity is BIG, Truth is just a little BIGGER.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 8255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: January 15, 2015, 2:02 am
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       I thought truth was infinite?  Do you mean truth is Bigger as it
       covers that which is not infinite aswell?
       #Post#: 8256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: January 15, 2015, 2:23 am
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       Can you tell me how to do spiritual autolysis because I dont
       understand how the process could actually work. I mean wouldn't
       it take a rediculious amount of time to go through every single
       belief and break it down?  Isnt there like an unlimited amount
       of beliefs created by the mind?
       Are there any other methods of attaining TR that you know of?
       Alot of question marks i know,  my last question is what it all
       boils down to really.
       #Post#: 8259--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 15, 2015, 4:01 am
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       Dear Zade:
       There are other techniques but are only taught through the Nav
       Series. They take time and some guidance to implement.
       With S/A you are trying to guess your way through it. Just start
       and it will, or will not, click for you.
       Love ya, Jed
       #Post#: 8261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: January 15, 2015, 4:29 am
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       I cant wait 6 months though D:
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