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       #Post#: 6472--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: December 15, 2014, 10:36 am
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       jed you say that the mind is non existent but isnt the only
       requisite for something existing being the belief is there that
       its true.
       sometimes i get a really stuck inside myself,  uncomfortable
       "what do i do" anxious feeling
       I get the feeling when im in a stressful situation. in the
       moment its like im completely engulfed in what's happening and
       it feels completely real like it has a weight to it. what should
       i do?
       #Post#: 6475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 15, 2014, 10:46 am
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       Dear PT:
       You question is not clear, but I think I understand it. Belief
       in something has nothing to do with whether or not it is real. I
       use to really, really believe in Santa, but I now have serious
       doubts. The whole aminita muscaria thing/Terrence McKenna, you
       know.
       If I have not addressed your question, let me know.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 6477--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: December 15, 2014, 11:04 am
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       hah i never would've thought santa claus could be linked to
       shrooms.
       i didnt do a great job at phrasing the question ill try again.
       when i go through spiritual autolysis and i see through a
       belief, its like that's not quite enough because come the next
       day and i come into contact with the belief again its changed,
       its like a new belief has taken its place. i think im doing
       something wrong. i keep making imaginary progress it seems.  is
       there some sort of actual technique to spiritual autolysis
       because i dont think it's working for me?
       (btw i usually go through spiritual autolysis in my head i can
       never come up with anything on paper)
       #Post#: 6483--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 15, 2014, 1:50 pm
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       Yes, yes, yes... I understand. The problem is you haven't
       detached the importance from the belief. It's what keeps it
       alive. Now the bad news. It's all explained in the Nav Series.
       The process is too much to get into here. (Guru teasing b a s t
       a r d )
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 6486--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: December 15, 2014, 1:58 pm
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       but the importance of something is based off the premises that
       there's a me that is related to the belief.  once the belief is
       seen through the importance disappears. me is such a deeply
       engrained belief,  all these other beliefs seem to depend on
       that belief. it seems literally impossible to unlearn "me".
       i look forward to the nav series any hints on when youre
       launching it?
       #Post#: 6496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 15, 2014, 3:03 pm
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       You point out a good... point.
       Until one deals with importance things will continue to be
       sticky. That's just the way things are.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 6553--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: December 16, 2014, 7:58 am
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       how can i deal with importance directly though isnt it
       continually produced as a by product of "me"?
       #Post#: 6555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 16, 2014, 8:04 am
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       Excellent question and one of the main points of the Nav Series.
       You cannot deal with importances directly because that is just
       creating more importances. However, there is a clever indirect
       method of depleting importances of their power over you. And
       they are very powerful.
       Patience.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 6597--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Plugturtle
       Date: December 16, 2014, 3:58 pm
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       ahh suspense
       #Post#: 6619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Zade
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: December 17, 2014, 1:28 am
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