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       #Post#: 9183--------------------------------------------------
       Experience is...What?
   DIR By: rafe
       Date: February 7, 2015, 7:39 am
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       Experience is...I is part of the experience.  Experience is and
       sometimes isn't.  I guess you could say it is when it is and
       isn't when it isn't.  I assume non-experience in the state of
       experiencing, but I only ever experience things from the state
       of experiencing.  The intervals of not-experience are a no-thing
       while viewed from the experiencing interval.  That is to say
       that the no-experience interval or no-thing, is objectified
       conceptually as a thing labeled no- thing...not the same thing
       at all.  Experience and experiencing then are the same event.
       The noun or subject seems redundant.  Experiencing is the
       experience, like the verb is folding back on itself.  Like the
       action folds in such a way as to appear like things...it still
       doesn't answer what experience is (only what it is doing)...but
       something obstructive seems to be falling away.... hmmm.....
       #Post#: 9187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experience is...What?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 7, 2015, 8:14 am
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       Dear Rafe:
       Welcome to the forum.
       Somethings can't be explained, in my experience, nothing can
       ever be explained.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 9220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experience is...What?
   DIR By: rafe
       Date: February 8, 2015, 6:16 am
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       Jed,
       Thanks.  Can you clarify a point for me?  I observe that the
       most productive autolysis happens when I pick a thing like
       experience and really go after it with single-minded
       determination.  Even when I wrote "it still doesn't answer what
       experience is...." I suspected you might suggest that it could
       not be explained, or that I sit with the don't-know. Both of
       which are welcome advice (I can get into a state of don't-know
       but it makes me giddy and takes away my will to dig).  My
       question though is this: If I accept too easily that things
       can't be explained, aren't I just taking the easy way out on
       autolysis?  Isn't pursuing those until I've done my own math the
       important thing?  My answer is yes.
       P.S. is there a place on the sight where I can find more about
       the Nav series?  Just curious.  I also observe that this process
       is working and my orbit is degrading.  I'm just in the dark when
       members refer to that.
       Best,
       Rafe
       #Post#: 9224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experience is...What?
   DIR By: rafe
       Date: February 8, 2015, 6:54 am
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       Although I also get that even looking at "what is experience" is
       still digging around in the thought structure, which is one step
       removed from that which is aware of experience as an object.  It
       is so hard to have awareness look back on itself.  It's like
       having that disorder where you can't see the center of your
       field of vision and awareness always sits right in the center.
       Every time I go to look at it, it shifts by just so many degrees
       as I have turned, and the thoughts begin to intervene...hmmm....
       #Post#: 9225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experience is...What?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: February 8, 2015, 7:01 am
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       In my not very humble opinion, you are intellectualizing this
       wholr thing far too much. Just gently stay with that which is
       aware of all this. What if there is never any answer to any
       question, ever, all there is is questions... the result is you
       can only be open to everything and never expect closure.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 32456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experience is...What?
   DIR By: rafe
       Date: October 23, 2017, 10:03 am
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       Ha!  I get it.  The very first filter isn't real.  That's all
       there is to it.
       #Post#: 32457--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experience is...What?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: October 23, 2017, 12:37 pm
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       No filter is real.... first or last...
       Love ya, Jed.
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