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       #Post#: 8522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: zigavoo
       Date: January 20, 2015, 9:12 pm
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       When you realize Truth does the personality/ego disappear? Is it
       difficult to animate the personality? Do you loose it all
       together? It took you 10 years to assimilate didn't it?
       #Post#: 8526--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 21, 2015, 1:56 am
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       How can something disappear when it never really was? The magic
       of a trick disappears when you know how the trick was done, but
       was there any magic, or always just illusion. Residue of
       personality often continues, just grooves in a record. No big
       deal. It can often take considerable time to integrate the
       experience of T/R, and yet, it's not an experience at all. It is
       ''all'.
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 8613--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: zigavoo
       Date: January 22, 2015, 10:33 pm
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       Jed,
       What I've come to conclude is that I have never experienced
       anything "out there" my whole life! It's always been "in here".
       Everything spoken, heard, felt and seen has all happened right
       here appearing to me as... Sensation? How do I find out to WHAT
       it all appears to without just relying on logic and reason but
       experience. If I look behind me without turning my head am I
       seeing the void by not seeing anything? Is that the experience
       of who I am or am I just fooling myself? In font of me is
       everything but behind or inside of me is blank. Is that it? The
       "truth"? I mean it's nothing! No space, no blackness. The only
       reason I can comprehend it is because I have somethingness to
       compare it to.
       Bernadette Roberts advises to cut off your head because the
       "experience of no self" can't occur with the mind or intellect.
       I still feel like these are just concepts to me and that makes
       me doubt the whole issue.
       Abiding non-dual awareness! I get that— all except for the
       abiding part. How do I make it stick?
       #Post#: 8647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 23, 2015, 11:29 pm
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       How do you make what already is more stable and more ''is''? You
       don't .
       Love ya, Jed.
       #Post#: 8688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: zigavoo
       Date: January 24, 2015, 11:15 am
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       Check. Let me stew on that for a bit.
       #Post#: 8697--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 24, 2015, 9:08 pm
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       Stew away..
       Love ya, Jed
       #Post#: 8926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: zigavoo
       Date: January 30, 2015, 9:34 pm
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       Hey Jed,
       Been thinking some more. I'm a bit hung up on a little
       something. Im doing more and more experiments to realize
       who/what I am. One thing I've been contemplating is physical
       movement in the body. I sure seem to have command over it–that I
       am the doer, but at the same time I don't . Let's say I want to
       move my finger. First an image appears and I sense the location
       of the finger and then BAM the finger moves and I take the
       credit of the movement. But not so fast. Who was the commander?
       I would say it's the mind. But where is the self in all this? is
       mind and self synonymous? It sure seems like mind's primary
       function is to be a mirror for the self. The mind moved the
       finger but in the background awareness was around it all.
       In your experience who is the commander?
       #Post#: 8928--------------------------------------------------
       Re: It is as it seems?
   DIR By: Jed McKenna
       Date: January 30, 2015, 11:25 pm
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       It's simple, fast and slippery.
       A desire arise out of the void, an action occurs and mind
       assumes cause.
       You do it in a thousandth of a second.
       Now, go see for yourself.
       Love ya, Jed.
       P.S. Don't believe anything I say, find it out yourself.
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