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#Post#: 8321--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: JulianG Date: January 16, 2015, 4:34 pm
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Thanks Jed,
It seems similar to Kiloby's inquiries on the "feel what's from
the neck down without adding labels and escaping from it" part.
What about "getting all your goals just by releasing only"?
On the other hand, What's the best way of dealing with
importances?
#Post#: 8325--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: Jed McKenna Date: January 16, 2015, 7:25 pm
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Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned it because it takes about
three weeks of the Nav Series to learn it. If I dribble it out
it backfires and creates more importances. I suggest you give
your releasing a try and tell me what you think. Lester has a
book that he wrote with some decent ideas in it.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 8608--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: JulianG Date: January 22, 2015, 1:46 pm
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Dear Jed,
I've tried releasing two years ago and I'm trying it now, and it
gives me some temporary relief but have to see thoughts as
wanting, approval, control or security which bring even more
thoughts to the table.
It seems like thinking yourself out of the hell (damn right is
hell) you created with the initial "I" thought. And let's say
"I" get my goals and get all positive and then shit happens
again....? (then release again "your thoughts create your
reality" stuff, try to be positive again?)
Got Lester's book and it's all about letting go of ego and stop
pretending to be something that we're not: a limited self. Also,
realizing what we already are: no limitation because every
thought is limitation.
"I" just don't know how to stop pretending and being a limited
self....my best guess is that T/R is not something that "you"
think or try to be, it's just a natural state (no state at all),
just being...
Sometimes memento mori feels like wanting to die, like wanting
to escape. I guess for you it feels the same to be alive or
not?..... Trust me Jed that is really hard having an ego (that
knows nothing) which tries to understand, kill the self and
realize what is "our basic nature" regardless of how
good(heaven, happiness, B.S) or bad (hell, sins, B.S.) the story
goes.
How can the fictional character be removed so there's no story
to be told?
#Post#: 8628--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: Jed McKenna Date: January 23, 2015, 10:25 am
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It's only ego to think you can remove ego. You can only see it
clearly for what it is and all else will be taken care of.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 8686--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: JulianG Date: January 24, 2015, 10:44 am
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Dear Jed,
So instead of trying to get rid of ego, should "I" accept that
is going to be always there, doing its thing, constantly judging
and disapproving of self and others?
In other words, thoughts and experiences come and go but there's
no "you" to be affected by them?
"I" know at least mentally that "I" is just images and words (a
bunch of scratches that could "mean" anything or nothing at
all). I always get to that point with S/A (that there's nothing
more to be added, no knowledge, no further concepts as they are
composed of scratches, doodles.... No bedrock (just another
concept)
how can "I" just observe in full acceptance while struggling to
bring food to the table? is this part of the process?
As always, thanks for your pointers...
#Post#: 8696--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: Jed McKenna Date: January 24, 2015, 9:05 pm
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Maya/ego will tell you that you can't get rid of her/see through
her without giving up you life. Only you can find out if this is
true, but I can tell that all her threats are baseless.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 8742--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: JulianG Date: January 25, 2015, 1:51 pm
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Thanks Jed,
have an experience to share:
a couple of days ago "I" met with my old friends from school and
"I" find it really hard to connect with them again. Now they
look like actors, playing their roles perfectly (they're
professionals). A twisted ego's party were every single guest is
acting as if they care about others. Performing their social
accepted behaviors on this kind of reunions: drink, smoke, talk
B.S, etc.. "I" know this may sound cruel, but they look like
cows walking in line (automatic pilot) towards the
slaughterhouse. Damn.. "I" used to be a cow too, and a very
convincing one, but "I" cannot connect with it anymore, it's
like if those days (most of my life) are memories from another
person, maybe another cow. This is another trick from Maya: "I'm
the different cow in town".... Now it feels like "I" have to
develop further acting skills just to talk with other cows....
On the other hand, I watched the movie Revolver(2005). Have you
seen it Jed? maybe it has some pointers. Who knows? They're hard
to grasp with the mind (if it can't be understood with mind,
then with what??) just as Col. Kurtz's methods or no-method at
all ???
Anyway, "I'll" keep questioning and observing everything, but
it turns almost impossible to observe JulianG when "the waters
have reached my neck"
#Post#: 8751--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: Jed McKenna Date: January 25, 2015, 9:12 pm
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Dear J:
Up to your ass in alligators or actors. It's pretty strange but
you'll go through it. And yes, they are all actors, desperate
actors.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 9906--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: JulianG Date: March 5, 2015, 8:16 pm
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Dear Jed,
"I" have to be a good actor just to talk with other characters.
At least "I" know that I'm acting most of the time while "they"
blindly believe that the character is what they are......Well,
meanwhile "I" keep practicing SA on my free time.
With SA "I" always get to the point were everything is just made
up of language, a consensus between at least two (humans) pieces
of language (could be dots, knots, $,*, #, 1984, abcd,or
anything).......wait a moment, the consensus is also played well
between mind and body..... and then all points back like a
boomerang to the guy using a pen to write these stuff down:
there's no out there all is perceived in here (is this
true?)--------
without language there's only perception (is this so?)
perception is only a word and everything is built upon
levels/degrees of importance given to words.....
Who's stating that this has more relevance than that??---- a
character composed of the same stuff ???
the character needs space and time in order to exist but
damn.....everything is just the same importance given to
words...
#Post#: 9926--------------------------------------------------
Re: Self Enquiry, Memento mori and questions
By: Jed McKenna Date: March 6, 2015, 8:13 am
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Hi Julian:
Yes, what could be different than something else when neither
exist?
Love ya, Jed.
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